i said nothing of the sort, it's obvious that those people have no "use" in our society, but they are a byproduct of otherwise NATURAL human diversity. something that will never go away. you keep axin' the outliers and you'll end up with nothing. that's called communism right? the dirty dirty artsy fartsy theory that brings about dictatorships that "we" all hate as first world capitalists right?Are you suggesting that gang members serve a societal funtion essential to its survival?
"we" have created a society in which not everyone can fit in... debateably there is no such thing as a society where everyone fits in. so deal with it. like we always have.
the metaphysical arguemnt is exactly what i'm getting at. and there is no good without evil and it has nothing to do with the opposition of consensual sex and rape, because that is not a metaphysical arguement is it?If we attempted the metaphysical arguement, it would say something such as "there can be no good without evil." That's true from a perspective point of view, and utterly idiotic in reality.
we can certianly do without gangs... but how then do you address the inevitable and REAL statistics that contribute to gang formation? it's not something you can just throw away, because if and when you do it will resurface in another form. the reason being the underlying fact that there will ALWAYS be such people, disgusting, artsy, crazy, genius or otherwise... what can be done about that?
so when are you going to start your communist regime to unify the moral cultures of humans in this nation? c'mon peeps... this is what i'm saying. DEAL WITH THE BAD that philosophically and definitively COMES ALONG with the good. by definition in a free culture you can't do this. by definition in a world of diversity you cannot avoid gaussian statistical outliers.I can resolve the "round people up and kill them" dilema quickly. The government just doesn't have the tools to solve the problem because it isn't an issue of firepower or even mere crime but one of culture. Gangs are negative, criminally oriented parasite CULTURE. Long ago we lost anything that even began to resemble a unified American culture. That was ok because there was still community-centered culture. Now that has been stamped out and even if it wasn't all avenues of remmedy and recourse have been usurped from local communities.
there's no redeeming qualities in the world that you live in. what if you lived in a different world? what if you lived in scotland during the braveheart times? i think havin' a few gangstas around would help keep the freedom... you can't just excuse things based off one definition of existence. i'll absolutely say that gangs create problems for modern day society, but if you don't deal with those problems without degrading the social architecture you make it impossible to continue living.I was disagreeing that there is any redeeming qualities regarding gangs.