getting a suppressor for my ar-15

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well im getting a yhm suppressor for my ar-15 and i was wondering what it sounds like. The person im buying it from said it sounds like a 18 wheeler letting of its air brakes, but i looked it up on youtube and it seemed like it sounded like a .22 lr but i dont know. So who does?
 
maybe i'm thinking SBR but you get put on a list for having a silencer from what i have saw the 5.56 silencer does make a big difference but your never going to have it dead quiet the only thing that does that is the .22
 
my 1st question to you is do you have a class 2?
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why would that be your first question? why would that be a question at all?


to the OP, several of my friends have the YHM 223 cans. To my ears, some of the $900-1300 cans are noticeably quieter, but they're not twice as quiet. The 22lr comparison is reasonable. You will still need hearing protection from any of them.
 
I have a friend with one that he shoots on his AR. With standard 5.56 rounds, you hear the crack of the round breaking the speed of sound. It is about as loud as a .22 LR. The real benefit is that you get rid of all the muzzle blast. With the .22 LR conversion it is even quieter...and with the .22 subsonic you only hear the bolt slap and the impact on the berm.
 
Maybe I'm confused, is the OP talking about a Flash Suppressor or a Silencer?

And does a person need to pay a $200 tax for a flash suppressor?

I've noticed on some websites the manufacturers will differentiate between "flash hiders" and "flash suppressors" -- is there an actual difference legally?

Sorry if this is a hijack, but it might lend itself to the general conversation.
 
AH! Confusion!

He's buying a suppressor/silencer for his AR. He's submitting a form through the ATF to get a tax stamp in accordance with the 1934 National Firearms Act.

A flash suppressor/hider does not reduce the report of the rifle and is not considered a (sound) suppressor/silencer.

The report from a silenced AR is... weird. You get a lot more supersonic crack audible because the actual report is so diminished. So it's still kind of loud, but a completely different frequency. I think I've only heard it with plugs still in, which is probably necessary/a good idea.

To be honest, the jet of hot gas that shoots into your eyeball kind of distracts you from the report (or lack thereof). :D
 
Ugh. Why do people post when they have no clue what they're talking about?

To the OP, the YHM can will sound like a LOUD .22LR. Depending on your own ears and your shooting environment it may or may not still make your ears ring. If you're shooting outdoors in an open field the chances are better that it will not. If you're shooting in an enclosed hallway it will almost certainly still hurt your ears.

I would always advise anyone interested in a 5.56 suppressor to see one and shoot one first. Almost every buyer of 5.56 cans that doesn't is disappointed with their purchase.

To the rest, there is no "class 2" license in the sense of a license needed to own a suppressor, there is no "list", and there is no tax stamp for a flash suppressor.

To own a SOUND suppressor (or "silencer"), assuming they are legal in your state...
1) Find the one you want (best if you find a dealer with it in stock)
2) Pay the dealer
3) Fill out the forms (to include CLEO signature, fingerprints, etc.)
4) Send all documents to BATFE with $200 check for the tax
5) Wait
6) Wait some more
7) Get form back from BATFE approved and with a nice stamp in the upper right hand corner
8) Pick up suppressor from dealer

There are various nuances to the process that can be encountered if ordering the can from out of state, using a corporation for ownership, using a trust for ownership, etc. but that's the basic process. Also, many dealers will fill out the paperwork for you which can be a nice service but you still need to check over the forms before you send them in, ask me how I know.:banghead:
 
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There IS a Class 2 Special Operations Tax Status, though. Manufacturer of NFA items.
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Which has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Might as well say "well, you can get a commercial drivers' license in the state of Wyoming" as it has about the same amount of bearing on the conversation.

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isn't the 30 cal vortex quite a bit bigger than the 22 cal vortex?
 
taliv isn't the 30 cal vortex quite a bit bigger than the 22 cal vortex?
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Just a tad, but it works as it should and there is little or no bullet drop...
 
so you threaded a 556 barrel with 5/8th or whatever instead of 1/2x28?
 
Nope. All you need to do is install the correct G6A2 SEI DC Vortex.

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Yep, the YHM silencer makes an AR-15 sound about like a .22lr. However, in the same price range you could get a AAC M4-1000, which is slightly better than that and is built more durably. I heard both, was impressed by both, but when I looked at construction and materials... bought the AAC. :)


Video to show the HUGE difference a silencer makes.
 
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taliv interesting, thanks!
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Here is a .30 caliber SEI/FEI can on an M4

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You can use the same .30 caliber SEI/FEI can on several different rifles if you have the correct DC Vortex installed.

Mine will be used on my M14s, 7.62x39 AKM and 5.56 AR :evil:
 
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I'll be running a .30 caliber SEI/FEI can on my 5.56 AR.
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Where can you get a SEI/FEI .30 caliber suppressor since SEI doesn't sell to civilians? I looked on gunbroker and subguns without much luck.
 
Even without subsonic, a silencer makes a HUGE difference on an AR-15...

Video to show the difference.
 
Subsonic 223 or 5.56 ammo is a waste of money. It is marginally better than subsonic 22lr. Bullet weight and construction is a factor of course.

The case can be made for 300 whisper... I suppose. A can is still worth it for noise reduction with standard ammo. I wouldn't want the neutered ballistics of subsonic 223. To each his own.
 
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