Glass bedding a Mini 14

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I finally bought a glass bedding kit for my mini to see if I can make it a lil more accurate for cheap. The kit I bought is the Brownells Acraglas Gel. What I need advice on is where the bedding should be placed to maximize its effect, as well as where the stock should be touching the gas block and reciever and where it shouldn't be. Any suggestions would be great.
 
sounds like a waste of time to me. about all thats going to work on one is cutting the barrel to 16 inch or a new barrel.
 
I used a tutorial for the M14. The stocks and action is substantially the same.
as to results_ contrary to our all-knowing friend buttrap it worked well. I was able to obtain 2" groups with Barnaul laquered 62 gr ammo. I havent noticed any heat related wandering. Havent tried any match ammo yet cause I was quite happy with the barnaul stuff!!

It's well worth the effort to do this, and the gel is the best product for this job.

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I haven't bedded my M30 yet, I used copper sheet to 'shim' the stock to receiver and stock to trigger group fit. it definitely tightened things up and made a noticeably tighter group. I just slow-fire mine, haven't ripped through the round mags I've fiddled w/enough to get them reliable.
 
I did this and got reasonable results at 1 1/4 MOA groups. I did not use Accra glass but a concoction of my own - which was a little flexible. I set the all the metal parts of the receiver into a bed of bedding concoction with the gas port attachment just clipped onto the fore-end as normal. I also used a leather buffer between the gas port mounting and the 'piston' - mainly to reduce shock on my scope, but I'm sure it also reduced barrel vibration too. Whether it helped or not, I still preferred the much firmer receiver to stock fit. The receiver was bedded on the 'sidewalls' too.

Good Luck!:)
 
I knew I should have said in the first post to leave your anti mini 14 sentiment at the door. Who cares why I want to? Maybe I have brain damage or I can't afford the gallons and gallons of solvent it would take to keep an ar15 functioning properly because my truck is really really dirty. Maybe I'm practicing so when I do my model 70 I'll be less likely to screw something up. Maybe I think it will be fun, inexpensive way to get my mini shooting straighter.
 
Tarvis,

I have a mini-14. I love it. and YES it doesn't jam or require the same maintinence as the AR's. My mini-14 is a 580 serial number with the heavier barrel. It shoots 1-2" moa without anything, shooting Iron sights @ 100 yards. 1" moa with a scope if I do my part with good ammo. The rifle really wasn't built as a tac driver but a ranch rifle.

You'd actualy be better off practicing with a 10/22 .22LR to increase your Proficiency. Aim, Breath, trigger controll. You can practice it with any rifle. .22LR just happens to be the least expensive way. Why do you think that Glocks, 1911's and many other semi-auto pistols come with conversion kits for the .22LR.? It's a great way to practice good shooting technique. Good techinque will allow you to shoot any rifle, handgun, shotgun, bow & Arrow better. Different technique for different situations. Practice them all.
It's like any sport. a pro skiier will beat you down he hill no matter what is strapped on to him against someone with the best equipment made who has no or poor technique.

I guess my point is, IMHO, "You will NOT get any better accuracy out of your mini-14 if you bed it".

Please tell us more about your rifle. What series is it? #580? Muzzle break/flash supressor? Composite or wood stock? What ammo are you using? What altitude and what were the weather conditions?

And Finally if you really want to glass bed it and you do it your self you may not come out with the end result you're looking for. are you prepared to get a new stock after you ruin the one you have?

Is this your first time attempting a glass bedding job? trigger & barrel?

Good Luck
 
mgregg85,

Why would you want to own a crappy glock 19?
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At least I don't try to make the gun more than it is. I accept it for what it can and can't do. At least it's not an XD Glock wannabe.
 
I have read from a few different areas that glassbedding min 14s has helped the accuracy.

My mini is a LE trade in, 188 series ranch rifle with an aftermarket composite stock that fits sorta funny (couple of gaps in wierd places). It has a blade front sight and currently doesn't have a brake/suppressor. I hand load my own ammo, currently have 55gr vmax infront of win748 loaded. The stuff I have says it is sandable so if i screw it up, no big deal. Ill sand it off or buy a different stock; saw one for sale for $50 or so at a local gun shop. Elevation in Boise is 4200 iirc.

Is this your first time attempting a glass bedding job? trigger & barrel?
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Yes it is, which is why I made this thread. I'm not sure if I only need to bed the very top of the stock or if I need to modify the front of the stock where it contacts the gas block and if I need to do anything to the inside of the stock where the trigger group contacts the metal support insert deal (cant think of the name).
 
Many folk have had good results bedding Mini's. I doesn't matter what it was made for originally, only what you want it to be. Apples and oranges. Vanilla and chocolate. Go for it. As stated earlier, M-1/M-14 techniques seem to work well on a the Mini.
 
I bedded my trigger group as well, in a way that it clamped the receiver rather tightly into the stock. Mine had no clearance on the sides of the receiver but I did nothing to the fore-end to gas port block. The bedding was all it took to secure it into the gas block recesses without stressing the barrel. I did manage sub-MOA groups. Let's just say I could hit a beer can at 200m with it. It was not going to get me into the bench rest league but I seldom missed my mark in the field - and most of my shooting was free hand. I would say go for it and enjoy! Good luck.:)
 
Bed the rear of the recoil lug, the back of the action, and the sides of the action. You might want to do this in steps and use PLENTY of release agent; and, you may have to relieve the stock to action fit before bedding. Front to rear play, side to side play and maybe most important, up & down play should be non existent after bedding. It may help; it may not, but if done right it won't hurt. There are plenty of threads on Perfect Union that discuss this. Didn't seem to help mine much but didn't hurt it either.
 
should have added that I bedded the gas block by using JBWeld after stripping the metal liner from the stock fore-end and fastening the liner with machine screws. this in addition to the shimming of receiver/trigger group tightened groups considerably. and some other mods also, recrown, trigger job, brake. check the perfectunion site's mini14 section for good info.
 
Dumb question: if you glass bed the action, you don't ever remove it from the stock again, right? Or can you still do that?
 
Not true unless you forget to or don't use enough release agent or don't use enough release agent in the right places or get a mechanical lock, then you may not be able to remove the action and barrel from the stock. You need to think through what you are doing and do it in baby steps if you haven't bedded an action before.
 
308win, now that you mention it, I did mine exactly how you described it. (And I did it in baby steps. If I remember correctly, I might have had to remove a little bit of ‘mechanical locking’ along the way). It did help a little. I was very happy with the fit – it just felt good and when removing the action from the stock, there was that firm slide out with just a little ‘force’. :)
 
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So, you don't want the fore end touching the gasblock right? I tried to find the thread on perfect union on using jb weld to bed the block but couldn't find it.
 
Has anyone tried the Sage stock on the Mini-14 to see how accuracy is effected?

I like the Mini. I just want one that shoots better. If a cost effctive way can be found to make it shoot on par with standard grade ARs, I am all for it. I see a lot of $400-500 used Minis.

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Accuracy Systems has a method of "mini pillar bedding". Looks interesting. Anybody have any experience with it?
 
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Seems to me I read somewhere that adding a "flash Suppressor" would help your rifle group better,(takes some of the "whip" out)and you could get the one with the new style front sight,like the 580s have,could not hurt,and I like the newer style front sight a lot better.
 
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