brickboy240
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They're missing a comfortable grip angle.
Other than that..not really.
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Other than that..not really.
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Glock is missing something..
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I read a rumor on some other board that a sales rep said a .45 long slide is in the works. I don't know as I believe that but just passing that along...
A compact 10mm and .45 would be a worthwhile addition.
I would also love to see a .22LR introduced. Of course it would have to be made in USA, but I thought they were tooling up to build pistols in Smyrna GA.
A compact 10mm and .45 would be a worthwhile addition.
I would also love to see a .22LR introduced. Of course it would have to be made in USA, but I thought they were tooling up to build pistols in Smyrna GA.
MTMilitiaman
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What are you guys considering a compact? I always thought the 29/30 were there compacts but if you guys are considering them sub-compacts, that means you expect Glock to introduce a .45 and a 10mm with a barrel length between 3.7 and 4.6 inches, and I just don't see that happening. Seems like too small of a difference.
Like others, though, I would like to see longslides in both 10mm and .45 ACP. That would truly rock. Seriously rock. Like mosh pit at a death metal concert with a liter of JD rock. Hardcore rock. Really, really rock.
The HiPoints are direct blowback operated while the Glock is delayed blowback using an improved linkless Browning system. The HiPoints are essentially potmetal comparible to Jennings while the Glock is every bit as high quality in its construction as HK, and from what I have seen of them, SIG, and indeed, offer a far superior metal treatment.
O wait, Glocks are the only pistol design in the States to achieve near 1911 popularity, and have done so in less than 3 decades as opposed to nearly a century, because they a essentially HiPoints, just more expensive... rriiiiiiiiight...
Grip angle preference is personal and subjective. I much prefer the Glock's. I have big paws that agree rather well with large double-column polymer pistols, but not with the 1911s, which are far less comfortable to hold and shoot for me than the Glock. 1911s cost more but offer few advantages that aren't subjective. They weigh more which is bad, but this increase in weight comes at the expense of magazine capacity, which is worse, so in essence you pay two or three times as much for a pistol that is heavier but offers half the capacity of a Glock, and somehow rationalize this as "soul." Glocks are durable, reliable, simple to operate and maintain, and offer light weight and exceptional magazine capacities, which seems like a good lot of advantages to have on your side. But of course they are neither shiny no prohibitively expensive so they must be junk.
Like others, though, I would like to see longslides in both 10mm and .45 ACP. That would truly rock. Seriously rock. Like mosh pit at a death metal concert with a liter of JD rock. Hardcore rock. Really, really rock.
The HiPoints are direct blowback operated while the Glock is delayed blowback using an improved linkless Browning system. The HiPoints are essentially potmetal comparible to Jennings while the Glock is every bit as high quality in its construction as HK, and from what I have seen of them, SIG, and indeed, offer a far superior metal treatment.
O wait, Glocks are the only pistol design in the States to achieve near 1911 popularity, and have done so in less than 3 decades as opposed to nearly a century, because they a essentially HiPoints, just more expensive... rriiiiiiiiight...
Grip angle preference is personal and subjective. I much prefer the Glock's. I have big paws that agree rather well with large double-column polymer pistols, but not with the 1911s, which are far less comfortable to hold and shoot for me than the Glock. 1911s cost more but offer few advantages that aren't subjective. They weigh more which is bad, but this increase in weight comes at the expense of magazine capacity, which is worse, so in essence you pay two or three times as much for a pistol that is heavier but offers half the capacity of a Glock, and somehow rationalize this as "soul." Glocks are durable, reliable, simple to operate and maintain, and offer light weight and exceptional magazine capacities, which seems like a good lot of advantages to have on your side. But of course they are neither shiny no prohibitively expensive so they must be junk.
tomkatz
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MTMilitiaman
I was thinking of how to respond to 1911guy, then I read your post and you said what I was thinking very well, so I'll just give it a +1.
.......tom
I was thinking of how to respond to 1911guy, then I read your post and you said what I was thinking very well, so I'll just give it a +1.
.......tom
Why not that longslide in 45 acp? Because Glock Industries are driven by marketing. This is both good and bad. I'm a happy Glock owner but these guys are extremely driving by profits/loss so I don't see it happening soon. Many good things have occurred at Glock because of their quick marketing reaction but I don't think they will field anything that is marginal ever.
Blacklabman
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The Glock grip angle, is a very subjective subject. I happen to like it. In USPSA matches, I have thousands of rounds thru my G35's and G17's. Glocks seem to be the pistol of majority, at matches. I own a a Kimber TLE II. It is a fun pistol to shoot at the range, but I do not trust it for CCW. It is finicky with ammo, and has had extractor and magazine issues. I see the same thing from many 1911's at matches. I'll take function over soul, anyday of the week.
I do not see Glock making a 10mm compact. The demand is simply not there. The 10mm while a great round, is more of a cult caliber. Ammo if not ordered is hard to find and expensive. Even if ordered of the net, the ammo is still not cheap. I do not know of any gunshops in my area, that even carry 10mm ammo or pistols.. I really do not see a .45 Longslide either. While it would be a nice pistol, the demand for it would be limited.
I do not see Glock making a 10mm compact. The demand is simply not there. The 10mm while a great round, is more of a cult caliber. Ammo if not ordered is hard to find and expensive. Even if ordered of the net, the ammo is still not cheap. I do not know of any gunshops in my area, that even carry 10mm ammo or pistols.. I really do not see a .45 Longslide either. While it would be a nice pistol, the demand for it would be limited.
Lobotomy Boy
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I sort of agree but sort of disagree. Yes, Glock is profit driven, but that doesn't prohibit the building of niche guns. Take the 34-35, for example. Like any good business, Glock bases its decisions on good profit and loss studies. The P&L for a low-volume, designed-from-scratch gun might show a dismal profit margin, but the P&L for a gun that requires minor tweaking of an existing gun (a longer slide on an existing frame, ala Glock 34 and Glock 35) might show an acceptable margin at a much lower volume and price point. Because of that a long-slide .45 might be much more profitable than, say, single-stack compact .45, ala the Glock 36.
BTW, the Glock 29, 30, and 36 are closer in size to the compact Glock 19 than the subcompact 26 and 27.
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