Good place to live in the USA??

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Maine

I have heard Maine is pretty nice, especially if you get out into the boonies. But I have also heard that outsiders are treated pretty rude and not accepted at all, is that true??

Also heard Maine is pretty liberal? But I guess that may only apply to the more costal populated areas and not the rural areas.

What can you get for $125,000- $150,000 in terms of housing in a more remote rural area??
 
Vermont isn't cheap but we've got some of the best non-existant gun laws in the country!
Silencer/Suppressors are still a no-go for the time being...looking to change that though. Carry where you want, no permits and no hassles.
 
Sam, much of New England is like that. And I don't know what your situation is finances-wise, but I think you'll get more than the normal amount of resentment in Maine if you are better-off than your neighbors.

Successful NFA dealer Dan Shea (Long Mountain Outfitters and Small Arms Review magazine) moved from Harmony, Maine to Henderson, Nevada (Las Vegas area) because he needed to expand his facilities and knew if he added buildings etc. to his Maine property, he'd NEVER get his money out on sale. None of his neighbors had more than the bare minimum, they were all resentful of his success, and the fact that he hadn't been there for three generations.

People's attitudes vary in different parts of the country. In some places success is admired, and in these places there is a kind of energy that is very appealing. Holstermaker Ken Null moved to Georgia (I forget from where) and was stunned at how friendly everyone was to him.

I've been in every state in the Union except Hawaii and am impressed with how many great places there are in this country.

JR
 
Brad Johnson,

Your recommendation was great until you said: "TX is shall issue. 8 hr course and $140 for 4 years. In my county, here in Bama, permits are $15/year. I think a neighboring county charges only $7. No classes.

An 8 hour CCW class and $140? Y'all need to work on that. Then Texas would be perfect. :)
 
Parkersburg, West Virginia.

Large (for WV), relatively cosmopolitan (nowhere near a Cleveland or Pittsburgh, but very good for the area) town that is in the top ten most inexpensive places to live in the US.

West VA has only one gun law (barring CCW) - a statute against state gun control. CCW is shall issue, and further legal discussion is probably unnecessary, as WV has its own reputation.

West Virginia contributes, by percent of population, more troops to the US Armed Forces than any other state, and has its bearings firmly in the right place in terms of values and morals (Morgantown aside :evil: ).

Public land/hunting areas are easy to find - just drive a bit further south or east.
 
Bama is one of the poorest States in the Union BTW. Anyway stay out of Okie land and trust me, on any State that has weak watered down beer is not the State to live in.
 
Not too many weeks ago there was a thread about tennessee on here because a lot of folks on here are from there. Lots of info in that thread.

Ohio is pretty expensive to live in when you add up all the sales tax, gas tax, state income tax, and other stuff the state keeps doing to keep their money bags refilled.

I am moving before too long and most places I looked at are cheaper to live in than ohio.

One thing I like about ohio is that as a land owner I can shoot a deer during hunting season and I don't need a hunting license or permit or tag or anything when I go tag it in. This is for hunting on my land only though and things are capable of changing anytime.

Oh, I guess I should mention that while tennessee has no state income tax on earned wages I do believe they have an income tax on dividends and stuff from investments. I am still figuring this one out.

Overall, my biggest concerns are what it costs to register a car in the state, how much of my income I take home each week, how much sales tax is and what all is taxed with that sales tax. In ohio the basic foods are not taxed.

As far as what ccw costs, some states are a lot cheaper than others but one thing to look at is what a renewal can cost. Some states are pretty cheap to renew while others are almost the same cost as the initial permit.

Good thread and please keep it going. There are an awful lot of things to consider when moving.
 
I'd say Texas meets all your requirements, EXCEPT lots of public easy access hunting land. Most of the land here is private, and it'll cost you to hunt. That's the only downside. But it hasn't stopped me from hunting to my hearts content.
 
Wy

Northwest West, or Central Wyoming. All points covered. I too like the Redneck matter-of-fact attitude of Wyoming. That's what brought me here.
 
Parts of Florida

I can't reccomend my whole state as far as affordable housing or trailor parks lol but there are definetly sections of the state mainly the northern half of the state where housing is still affordable. As far as gun laws go the ccw is very easy and fast to get. I got mine in less than a month. We just passed a new law basically extending the castle doctrine to wherever you happen to lawfully be meaning no duty to retreat and protection from any crusading da's. We have lots of hunting areas and at least in the northern half of the state the population is very conservative.
 
Here in the Arkansas Ozarks, the sky is blue, the dogwoods are in bloom, the horses are showing off from sheer good spirits. The turkies are gobbling, and next month it will be spring squirrel season.

Arkansas is a shall-issue state, and housing is pretty reasonable. You can get beautiful places in the country cheap, and folks around here don't care what you do as long as you do it on your own property.
 
Check everything out.

If someone is thinking about moving to a rural area of another state, or even just another state, there's a lot to check out first.

Lemme tell ya, I been through this...

You need to check out taxes:

Property taxe rates (2% Texas, 1% Wyoming, 2% South Dakota)
Income tax rates... States having none: New Hampshire, Florida, Tennessee, Texas, South Dakota, Wyoming, Nevada, Washington and Alaska.
Personal property taxes (if applicable)
Vehicle license fees & registration
(For example, if I moved to Texas, it would cost me $90 for each vehicle I'd want to register [one time new registration fee per vehicle] plus license & registration. They also have (annual?) vehicle inspections... I've a car, a jeep a motor coach, two trailers, and half a dozen motorcycles, IOW, with the recurring inspections a PITA.)

The amount of restrictions on what you can do with your rural property, if any. Minnesota comes to mind as a really scary state for this. Special conservation and taxation districts having ultimate approval of changes to your property...

Texas rural property taxation is made affordable by using an agricultural or wildlife exemption. IOW, you must run animals, grow stuff or feed game and have sufficient proof to show the tax guy. Mess up on this and there's a FIVE year penalty tacked on to your now market value assessed county land.

The major political climate. For example, I really like Montana, but it seems about every liberal tree hugger does, too. There's no sales tax there but other taxes are higher to make up the difference.

You have to do your research as fully as you can; maybe the equivalent of several full time days finding out answers to things that can affect you. That country dream property could really be a nightmare...

BTW, that findyourspot.com thing worked well enough that it picked several towns/areas I'd already checked out.
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The Land Between Two Rivers

Take a look at Iowa. In particular Humboldt and Boone Counties. Sherrifs are great, land is not that expensive, great hunting is easy to find. The only drawback is the inhabitants are rather Redneck. I currently live in Story County, which is where Iowa State University is located(right next to Boone County), and I grew up in Humboldt.

Oh yeah, one more drawback. Iowa does NOT have a high powered rifle season for deer. :banghead: :fire:
 
I just heard an update on Utah last night on the news, turns out we're projected to be one of the top states for job growth this year, and all your other requirements are met.
 
Good choice, captain obvious, my home town. I wasn't going to speak up, and was surprised to see "Parkersburg, WV" listed. I think it's a good place, but lived here all my 48 years, and four other generations before me, so I'm just a bit biased. Anyone curious or wants to discuss seriously off-list send me an e-mail. If you're considering WV, Wood county is as good as it gets.

tg
 
If you're into city living, a brand new Fox & Jacobs house with about 2000 SQ ft, 3 bedrooms, upstairs AND downstairs living rooms, 2 1/2 bathrooms, 2 car garage is running about $108K in Fort Worth, Tx. I just had a friend buy this exact house, which is why I know the price :)

Public hunting: The Lyndon B Johnson Grasslands offer dove, otherwise you'll be paying for a Deer lease. Some places offer Hog Leases, and some farmers are happy for you to just come by and help cull them out. Fishing is good, all sorts of lakes here (A la Army Corps of Engineers).

Gun Friendly? Like someone else said, It's TEXAS! No permit needed to carry a long gun or shotgun, Permit needed for concealed carry of pistols, NO Open acrry allowed of pistols unless you're on your own land or other private property with permission. CCL holders bypass NICS when buying new weapons.

Ft Worth is a large city, close enough to Dallas to get there if you want to, but independent in style and politics. There's a local BBQ joint that has the following motto: Life's too short to live in Dallas.(Railhead BBQ... my 2nd favorite BBQ joint) :) The 2 cities really are different. Dallas is the party town, Ft Worth is the cultural mecca. (Seriously). I live on the west side, and can be in the country in 5 minutes driving. The people are very friendly, and since Texas seems to be the place to be, we're used to foreigners :) (aka anyone NOT from Texas) Just remember 1 basic rule... We don't care HOW you did it back there!

Some of the best cooking around in the D/FW metroplex, Dallas has more resturants than NY City. Tons of activities, and Ft Worth is the BUCKLE of the bible belt :-D A lot of conservative folks here, and more churches than you can shake a stick at.

Gun Ranges: There are 2 outdoor and 3 indoor ranges within 15 minutes of where I live. More as you drive :) There's even a place about 1.5 hours out that has a 1000 yard range and allows .50 shooters as well as REALLY nice classes. http://www.tacproshootingcenter.com/ 550 acres of shooting heaven.

Hope this helps.
 
Georgia for sure.
Good gun laws overall, working on improving CCW laws but still good as another poster noted above. Has it all, if you want to live in a bustling metropolis, you can live in Atlanta. Or you can live in any # of smaller cities, Macon, Clumbus, Savannah...
Or the open country where houses and land are cheap.
BSR
 
Definition of a good place woould be:
Easy to get a CCW permit
Gun Friendly
Good outdoor shooting ranges
Good hunting, easy access to public land to hunt, and not big hassles to get hunting permits
Affordable housing. A nice place in nice neighborhood or rural area for $125,000 to $150,000.
Conservative Pro Christian family values (no rainbow flags, tributes to Michael Moore, etc..)
No trailer park areas please.
Well, a number of places come to mind. South Georgia and extreme North Georgia. West Texas. Almost all of Alabama (except for Huntsville and Tuscaloosa- too liberal for you). Alot of North Carolina (but some of it has a very sizeable liberal minority-of course, they keep the public schools in great shape and the cultural oppurtunities thriving, so they aren't all bad).
There are tons of great places that meet your criteria. Good luck.
-David
 
well north idaho met all your criteria until a couple years ago, its no longer cheap land/housing. i already have my land and housing so... i think ill stay :D
 
I would eliminate any state that bans carry in restaurants

that serve alcohol. I think that narrows the field quite a bit. :banghead:
Don't forget "Must have high speed internet available"
 
"TX is shall issue. 8 hr course and $140 for 4 years.
Click to expand...

In Sept. of this year this will go to 5 years but still $140 :rolleyes:

Now, I have thought about why it is so high here and all I can come up with is our proximity to the southern border and that such a price will keep certain "undesireables" from obtaining permits. This kind of thing has been going on in our govt as long as we have had one. Certainly it is much less talked about these days but it does still exist.
 
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