Got made the worst way possible (Ever happened to you?)

[GunGeek]

This evening I did something I will admit was rather stupid.

Being Christmas all my old friends are comming back to town and every year it is fun hanging out with them. Well tonight I was over at my best friends house. We were outside talking and remembering old times with him, his wife, his sister,his mom, 2 aunts, and a cousin, and as the night went on it got rather cold. I noticed his sister was starting to shiver and I offered her my jacket since she left hers in the house.

Well about 20 minutes later she ask jokingly "Got any money in these pockets?" and goes to unzip them. Just at that moment I relize I had my Kel-Tec P-3AT in the pocket and say "No! Don't go in them!" but it is too late and her hand is in. She just looks at me and says "Is that real?" I tell her it is, she has told me before she is a little freaked out by guns but she is cool and just zips it back up. She never said what it was but everyone just seemed to know. Her mom and aunts said they don't like guns but that is it. Her brother is a Marine and we had been in the Corps together so he was totally relaxed and just asked if I had a permit for it and pointed out to his sister and mom that having been in the Marines he was sure I would know what to do with it if I needed to. His sister did ask me why I carried it and I said "I rather have it on me and not use it, then need it and have it be at home".

She actually wears the jacket for another half hour before she asks me to remove the gun because it makes her nervous. I would have removed it right away but I was afraid it would be worse if I acted like it was dangerous to have a gun.... though I did watch her hands the whole time and if I had seen her go to touch it again or feel it through the jacket I would have taken it. Later I told her that I've had a gun on me almost every time she's seen me.

Besides a SHTF situaton this is about the worst thing I could have imagined happening, usually I carry IWB but I moved to the jacket pocket this week because it was cold and it was a heavy leather jacket and I didn't want to have to fumble with getting it out of the way if I needed my gun. But knowing I gave up my weapon not even thinking about it has me a little mortified. Luckly it was just infront of thier house and not in a public place.

This family has always been like a second family to me and I have known them over 10 years, so I am hoping that knowing I carry a gun everyday will slightly ease them with the idea of guns in the hands of citizens. Maybe a little good will come of it. But I just wish this hadn't been how they found out.

 

[Sisco]

Sounds like it went OK to me. Could've been a whole lot worse.

 

[TonyB]

Yeah we need to pay extrea attention when carrying not on our body.....lesson learned,no harm no foul....me I always carry on my person,I've lost too many jackets,coats and bags in my life....

 

[Blackcloud6]

You should have removed the pistol and took possession of it the moment you relized what happended. You would have proved that you are a responsible gun owner in front of everyone.

I don't know the law in FL but here in MI if per chance something happened and the police department showed up and discovered she had a gun in her pocket and she had no permit for CCW, she would have been in trouble.

BTW TonyB's suggestion is a good one.

 

[Kentucky Rifle]

For about the 10,000th time...

I've hurt my back. I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I will. It's hard to tie my own shoes. So, me & the wife go to Dillard's the other night to get some of those black athletic shoes that close with velcro. A snub is on my hip, but I've got a windbreaker on so I figure I'm concealed. I was, until I bent over to latch that velcro. I stand up and walk around a bit to try out the shoes. People began to look at me like my fly was open! Literally running to me, my wife grabs my jacket and re-covers my revolver. Turns out that when I bent over, the jacket rode up and over the smooth wooden grips. I was walking around in the "shoe department" looking like a gunfighter. We bought the shoes and left. The wife looks at me and says, "You really ought to wear a longer jacket". Me: "Ya' think"?!?

Will

 

[mrstang01]

Hey Kentucky Rifle,

Just remember, KY is an open carry state, if the sheeple get scared, let 'em baa!

 

[Kharn]

'Getting made in the worst way possible' is when you shoot off Mr. Downstairs or Mr./Ms. Right Cheek when adjusting your holster.

Sure puts everything else into perspective, doesnt it.

Kharn

 

[RepublicanMan]

I can relate to the shoe store episode........Early this year, while myself and my fiance' (now my wife) were at the mall so I could get fitted for my Tux I was "made".
At the time I had been carrying my Beretta 92 IWB in the small of my back in an inexpensive Uncle Mikes holster. I had a flannel shirt/jacket over a t-shirt and was easily concealed.....until the man walked behind me and proceeded to pull my shirt up to measure.
To his credit, he finished his job and moved to his counter to write his notes.....my wife however was on the ball....she turned me towards her, back to the wall and yanked my shirt down.
As we left (I went out before her) the two men working in the store (young guys) were apparently watching me walk out and whispering to each other.

 

[yesterdaysyouth]

Just remember, KY is an open carry state, if the sheeple get scared, let 'em baa!

ooppss....

i've gotten to where i don't even care who sees anymore around here....

but if i was struttin' around in a lousivlle mall.... imagine all the soccer moms...

 

[DadOfThree]

I've posted this before but it happened around Christmas a couple of years ago.

I stopped by Walmart to pick up a few things this afternoon. As always I was carrying my Walther P99 in a paddle holster on my right hip under a baggy shirt. I had my 4 yr old son with me. As 4 yr old boys generally do, he had plenty of energy and was running back and forth while I was shopping. I got about 15 feet ahead of him and was getting ready to leave and told him to follow me. Of course he comes barrelling up behind me at 100 mph and runs into me. Well, at 4 yrs old his head is just about belt level and he smacks his forehead into the side of my pistol. The first thing I hear in his loudest voice is "Daaaad, I hit my head on your gun!!" I was almost to the checkout counter so there were quite a few people standing around. I mostly got smiles and some laughter from a few guys, a couple of frowns from a few women but nothing bad. I was really red faced though. After we got outside I tried to explain to my son that everyone doesn't need to know that I am carrying a gun. Of course he doesn't really understand. I carry all of the time and he is so used to it he doesn't think of it as any different than wearing my belt or my cowboy boots. I don't want him to start thinking of a gun as something bad that you need to hide or that you need to be ashamed of. I guess I will just have to wait for him to grow up a little to understand. Until then I'll just try to keep him from running into me Although I will say that him running into my gun is better than the headbutt to the crotch I usually get when he is running and not watching.

 

[Sharpie1]

It *definately* wasn't the worst that could happen.

It would have been worse if you had let an untrained child borrow your jacket, who then rummaged through pockets as children often do - discovering your gun. In fact, if the child had suddenly decided to go elsewhere - such as around the back of the house or inside or whereever, THEN go through your pockets.... *whew* Lawdy.

Imagine the melee that could ensue - especially if said child wanted to play "cops and robbers" with it, as they may have done in the past with their own "guns".

The good thing about this story is, I'll bet it won't happen again.

TD

BTW, I am getting ready to get a P-3AT out of layaway, myself. Is it exactly like the P32? Does it shoot well? Accurately?

 

[GunGeek]

Blackcloud6 Said: You should have removed the pistol and took possession of it the moment you relized what happended. You would have proved that you are a responsible gun owner in front of everyone.

I seriously thought about that, besides for the obvious mistake of letting it happen in the first place this was the one thing I was wondering if everyone though I handled right. It was one of those instantanious decisions you wonder about forever. And with a bunch of people nervous about guns I considered the fact I didn't want to act like the gun itself was dangerous and also the fact the gun had only been talked about but not actually shown at this point. Pulling it out for all to see might have increased everyones discomfort. But I can see your point also... hard call and still not sure what I would do if it ever happened again. But I'm going to be thinking about things like this from now on so I learned my leason.

 

[tiberius]

I don't know the law in FL but here in MI if per chance something happened and the police department showed up and discovered she had a gun in her pocket and she had no permit for CCW, she would have been in trouble.

Wasn't she at her own house (or at least on private property)? Although Blackcloud6 gives VERY good advice in general, It seems to me that it wouldn't apply here.

 

[Ransom]

I dont think you did anything wrong. Sure if something happened and the cops came and actually searched her there would be some explaining to do. But considering that was probably highly unlikely and I'm sure the cop would understand it was his jacket and he simply forgot.

As for taking it away, eh. It would probably have been a bigger scene and drawn more attention for him to pull a piece out and try and put it somewhere on his belt or pocket. Simply leaving it alone and making sure she didnt fool with it was probably the best choice in the situation.

 

[GunGeek]

tadyson Said: It would have been worse if you had let an untrained child borrow your jacket, who then rummaged through pockets as children often do - discovering your gun.

I agree completly that is much worse then what happened to me, but I wouldn't say it makes me feel any better about what happened. A screw up was a screw up... and I screwed up. I am always very aware of my gun around kids though because you are right, some will even try and go through your pockets on something you are wearing. What was my problem was I was around some long term friends and just got too relaxed, that and my mom has it long termed ingrained in my head that you always lend you jacket to a women if she dosen't have one.

BTW, I am getting ready to get a P-3AT out of layaway, myself. Is it exactly like the P32? Does it shoot well? Accurately?

It's slightly bigger then a P32, but not enough to notice unless they are side by side. Oh I believe the P32 has a slide lock, the P-3AT does not. It shoots very well and I only had a few malfunctions in 300+ rounds... and they were all in the first hundred as the gun wore in. Accuracy wise... make no mistake, this is a close quaters gun don't expect too much past 20-25 feet.... milage may very. Oh, it will tend to climb out of your hands as you shoot, I have to adjust my grip every third shot or so. I am going to get the base plate with a grip hook on it as soon as I can find some in stock.

 

[gwalchmai]

I think if it had been "in the worst way possible" we'd have been reading about in the paper.

 

[Ransom]

Kind of off topic but why is "Is it real" always the first question? Has anyone every answered 'No, I carry a bb gun on me at all times'?

 

[Sharpie1]

gungeek

Nope - there is not slidelock on the P32 either.

From what you describe, the accuracy sounds similar to the P32 as well - which is acceptable for what I want it for.

Regarding recoil, I'd say that it is quite a handful. I fired a magazine from one of my student's Walther PPKs, and I must say that it was pretty uncomfortable - and that is not a plastic frame!

I usually carry either a full size 1911 or a Makarov if I'm not wearing a long jacket - just a fleece vest. And I detest carrying only my P32 - but it does make a good New York reload when carrying a more realistic gun.

Getting this P-3AT will make carrying much more comfortable for me.

Thanks for the quick response, and don't beat yourself up over your "incident". Nothing bad happened, and like I say - this is probably the last time it will happen to you.

Look at it this way - that woman [who has or had an irrational fear of guns] now knows that she touched a gun, and that she was in possession of it for a length of time, and it didn't jump out of her pocket and shoot everyone there, nor did it seek out and shoot any babies that happened to be passengers in cars going down the street.

Take care,

TD

 

[tiberius]

Nope - there is not slidelock on the P32 either.

Correction - P-3AT has NO slide lock, but the P-32 DOES have one, just no release lever; it works like a PPK.

The lack of one on the .380 is no big deal IMHO for this type of pistol. Other coomets are good, I like this pistol - very easy to carry.

 

[fiVe]

Look at it this way - that woman [who has or had an irrational fear of guns] now knows that she touched a gun, and that she was in possession of it for a length of time, and it didn't jump out of her pocket and shoot everyone there, nor did it seek out and shoot any babies that happened to be passengers in cars going down the street.

This is a good point. Hopefully some real conversion benefit will result from this.

 

[UnknownSailor]

That would have been my point, too. What I like to call a "teachable moment".

 

[Carlos Cabeza]

From what you said I think you handled the situation well. Other than the fact that your weapon was out of your immediate control for a few minutes. Hopefully , as others have said, you can turn the incident into an opportunity to educate others about RKBA.

 

[Robert J McElwain]

This thread is very depressing for someone who lives in Kansas, where mother government doesn't think the citizens are worthy of CCW.

Bob

 

[Kentucky Rifle]

Yesterdaysyouth & Mrstang01...

I've been looking for my CCDW stuff, but I can't find it. I'm nearly sure I remember a part that states when you qualify for your CCDW in Kentucky, you MUST carry your pistol concealed any time you carry.
Can someone confirm this? (I mean someone wo can actually FIND somthing like a small rulebook in their own house. I lose a LOT of things in my own house. )

Will

 

[mrstang01]

Sorry Kentucky, can't confirm because it doesn't exist. If your covering garment rides up, NBD, open carry rules apply.