Green dot what do you use it for?
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All of the above handgun cartridges, plus .32H&R and .32Long. I've used a bunch of it in 9mm and .45auto.
hAkron
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I switched from Red Dot to Green Dot in 12ga. Much cleaner and more consistent. Better still (but comparable) is American Select.
ArchAngelCD
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IMO you can use Green Dot in any application where you would use W231/HP-38. Only problem I've found with Green Dot, it has a narrow accuracy "sweet spot".
"What donyou use it for?"
I hope you meant "what do you use it for?"
If so, then:
.45acp for me.
I hope you meant "what do you use it for?"
If so, then:
.45acp for me.
So very true it took me a few different loads for 9MM to get there had fun doing it.
Fixed."What donyou use it for?"
I hope you meant "what do you use it for?"
If so, then:
.45acp for me.
I purchased a couple of pounds of estate sale Green Dot. It was a cardboard container of Green Dot, I assume it is late 70’s to early 80’s. It is old enough that the shiny tinned metal bottom has a small number of rust spots. The powder did not smell ether or bitter, I did not see any red, and I shot it up as quickly as possible as I believe it was at the end of its shelf life.
I was able to conduct chronograph tests in my 38 Special Airweight and more extensive tests in 45 ACP.
My loads shot well in the 38 Special.
Green Dot works well in the 45 ACP. My M1911’s functioned every time on the 700 fps 4.5 grain load. That load had very little recoil and yet clustered well. I judge the accuracy of the ammo by the clustering on my 25 yard gong target. Since I shoot offhand my accuracy is highly variable compared to someone shooting off sandbags. I can say that Green Dot has accuracy potential as it clustered well, but I cannot say that it is any more accurate than any other powder.
Green Dot must be just a little slower burning than Bullseye as 5.0 grains of Green Dot gave me the same velocities as 4.5 grains Bullseye. Green Dot is still a fast burning powder.
I fired my loads in two different M1911’s and I was glad to see that the velocities were similar between the pistols.
Some people are ultra fussy about clean burning powders. I am not. I cannot say Green Dot is a “clean” powder as the wind was whipping through around 15 mph. Any residue in the air was gone before I could see it. My M1911’s cleaned up as usual, but I have must have a higher tolerance about residue than the clean crowd.
I am not looking to replace any of my favorite pistols powders of Bullseye, Unique and 2400 with Green Dot. I am also not looking to add more Green Dot to the collection. But I won’t turn down Green Dot if I get it at a great price as it shoots well in the 38 Special and 45 ACP.
I was able to conduct chronograph tests in my 38 Special Airweight and more extensive tests in 45 ACP.
My loads shot well in the 38 Special.
Green Dot works well in the 45 ACP. My M1911’s functioned every time on the 700 fps 4.5 grain load. That load had very little recoil and yet clustered well. I judge the accuracy of the ammo by the clustering on my 25 yard gong target. Since I shoot offhand my accuracy is highly variable compared to someone shooting off sandbags. I can say that Green Dot has accuracy potential as it clustered well, but I cannot say that it is any more accurate than any other powder.
Green Dot must be just a little slower burning than Bullseye as 5.0 grains of Green Dot gave me the same velocities as 4.5 grains Bullseye. Green Dot is still a fast burning powder.
I fired my loads in two different M1911’s and I was glad to see that the velocities were similar between the pistols.
Some people are ultra fussy about clean burning powders. I am not. I cannot say Green Dot is a “clean” powder as the wind was whipping through around 15 mph. Any residue in the air was gone before I could see it. My M1911’s cleaned up as usual, but I have must have a higher tolerance about residue than the clean crowd.
I am not looking to replace any of my favorite pistols powders of Bullseye, Unique and 2400 with Green Dot. I am also not looking to add more Green Dot to the collection. But I won’t turn down Green Dot if I get it at a great price as it shoots well in the 38 Special and 45 ACP.
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[B]S&W M637-2 2" barrel[/B]
125 Valiant BBRNFP 4.5 grs Green Dot Lot 178 Mixed cases CCI 500
6-Apr-07 T = 48 °F
, POI, little leading
Ave Vel = 813.2
Std Dev = 44.55
ES = 176.5
High = 903.3
Low = 726.8
N = 24
125 Valiant BBRNFP 5.0 grs Green Dot Lot 178 Mixed cases CCI 500
6-Apr-07 T = 48 °F
1-2" above POI, more leading
Ave Vel = 867.3
Std Dev = 57.54
ES = 178.1
High = 966
Low = 787.8
N = 21
125 JHP (W/W) 5.0 grs Green Dot Lot 178 Mixed cases CCI 500
6-Apr-07 T = 48 °F 25 yds accuracy OK,
Ave Vel = 808.9
Std Dev = 56.82
ES = 95.46
High = 914.2
Low = 712.8
N = 20
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[B]Kimber Custom Classic[/B]
230 gr LRN 4.5 grs Bullseye 99' & 2005 mixed lot Mixed Brass WLP (brass)
16-May-09 high 83 °F OAL 1.250" taper crimp .469"
Ave Vel = 805.2
Std Dev = 38.07
ES = 136.9
High = 912.4
Low = 775.5
N = 24
230 LRN 4.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 708 fps
Std Dev = 12
ES = 40
High = 727
Low = 687
N = 9
accurate, little high, mild recoil
230 LRN 5.0 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 802fps
Std Dev = 19
ES = 61
High = 841
Low = 780
N = 15
230 LRN 5.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 873 fps
Std Dev = 30
ES = 88
High = 922
Low = 834
N = 11
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[B]M1911 Springfield Armory 5” Kart Barrel[/B]
230 LRN 4.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 719 fps
Std Dev = 26
ES = 105.1
High = 771
Low = 665.9
N = 14
accurate, little high, mild recoil
230 LRN 5.0 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 803 fps
Std Dev = 25
ES = 97
High = 867
Low = 770
N = 16
Accurate, centered
230 LRN 5.5 grs Green Dot lot 178 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 853 fps
Std Dev = 29
ES = 116
High = 918
Low = 802
N = 15
very accurate, centered
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midland man
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well I use it in my 12 gauge, and 45 colt loads! need 44 mag data using greendot for my rossi 92 16in barrel anyone has some data I could use it using 240gr lead bullets?
earlthegoat2
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I like all the "Dot" powders. I use them in handguns in various loadings.
"Shootguns" too...
TxD
"Shootguns" too...
TxD
Alliants current load data has only one pistol load supplied for green dot. A load for 45 auto and 230 gr lrn (the one I was planning on using it for anyway). Older copies have a lot of data for green dot and in other calibers as well.
I would love to know why. Did they change the powder?
Kinda spooky.
[edit] Made a mistake on this. Checked the new 2015 data and there are more than one load. Either my search fu was weak, I'm blind, or both. However, available data for GD in pistol loads in the new manual from Alliant is indeed sparse.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/resources/alliant/2015_Alliant_Powder.pdf
H1
I would love to know why. Did they change the powder?
Kinda spooky.
[edit] Made a mistake on this. Checked the new 2015 data and there are more than one load. Either my search fu was weak, I'm blind, or both. However, available data for GD in pistol loads in the new manual from Alliant is indeed sparse.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/resources/alliant/2015_Alliant_Powder.pdf
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I've tried it in both 9 and 45acp. It definitely fills the case, so no worries of double charges. I found it worked very well in the lower drops. A good friend of mine gave me a large container nearly full purchased by a family member nearly 30 years ago. Shoots great. Only thing I noticed was the lack of "green dots". I'm Guessing they faded. Still goes bang!
Salmoneye
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2004 Alliant Manual...
Handgun data starts page 42:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=182147&d=1364769070
Handgun data starts page 42:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=182147&d=1364769070
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