Gregory Peck, Gun Grabber, dies
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JohnBT
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"... received the Marian Anderson Award for social activism, he fired verbal salvos at Congress for dithering on gun control and at Hollywood for producing violent entertainment."
Seemed like an honest fellow. Good actor, too.
R.I.P.
John
Seemed like an honest fellow. Good actor, too.
R.I.P.
John
From the article:
Translation: I am a liberal philosopher-king. I know what is best for all you peon serfs. I will impose upon you peasants as many laws as possible to remake the world as I see fit. Of course, I shall continue to live as I see fit.
Another liberal bites the dust.
I'm sorry, but I find it hard to feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for someone who thinks like that.
He's an admitted hypocrite fer cryin' out loud! :banghead:
Translation: I am a liberal philosopher-king. I know what is best for all you peon serfs. I will impose upon you peasants as many laws as possible to remake the world as I see fit. Of course, I shall continue to live as I see fit.
Another liberal bites the dust.
I'm sorry, but I find it hard to feel even the slightest bit of sorrow for someone who thinks like that.
He's an admitted hypocrite fer cryin' out loud! :banghead:
Mr. Peck had gravitas--something that today's crop of celebrity loudmouth activists don't have and are too ignorant to understand why they might be as respected as Mr. Peck was if they had it.
I always had the sense that Mr. Peck came by his politics honestly, and even if he didn't, he could at least articulate them without sounding like an activist website regurg exercise.
On the irony note, Peck played a character in 1958's western range war saga The Big Country who wouldn't use a firearm. When pressed to violence later in the film he whoops up on a "rivalry" character played by Charlton Heston during a rather long fist fight that IIRC ends in a draw, proving his character wasn't a sissy. I got the sense that Peck wasn't one either.
As to the hypocrisy charge--I never heard of Mr. Peck regretting the rewards of capitalism like many on his side do. There is nothing wrong with being wealthy through one's own efforts and holding whatever politics one might harbor. If he were preaching how we should all live in poverty so that others might eat, he'd be a hypocrite. I do doubt that on the topic of gun control Mr. Peck was a hypocrite.
I always had the sense that Mr. Peck came by his politics honestly, and even if he didn't, he could at least articulate them without sounding like an activist website regurg exercise.
On the irony note, Peck played a character in 1958's western range war saga The Big Country who wouldn't use a firearm. When pressed to violence later in the film he whoops up on a "rivalry" character played by Charlton Heston during a rather long fist fight that IIRC ends in a draw, proving his character wasn't a sissy. I got the sense that Peck wasn't one either.
As to the hypocrisy charge--I never heard of Mr. Peck regretting the rewards of capitalism like many on his side do. There is nothing wrong with being wealthy through one's own efforts and holding whatever politics one might harbor. If he were preaching how we should all live in poverty so that others might eat, he'd be a hypocrite. I do doubt that on the topic of gun control Mr. Peck was a hypocrite.
At least he took aim at his fellow lefties in Hollywierd for producing blood and gore fests, while most people who play pretend for a living participate to the fullest extent in the violence on the screen while admonishing us to turn in our guns. Meanwhile, they have a CCW permit they got b/c they're rich, important, and big demokratic party supporters. 
Carlos
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Great post Boats!!!
RIP, Mr. Peck.
RIP, Mr. Peck.
Echoing Boats and CZ-75
I agree Peck is a much more respectable public persona than the current crop of celebrity know-it-alls.
A guy like Peck, I can disagree but still respect the man.
The sanctimonious hypocrites currently inhabiting Hollywood don't meet that criteria.
I agree Peck is a much more respectable public persona than the current crop of celebrity know-it-alls.
A guy like Peck, I can disagree but still respect the man.
The sanctimonious hypocrites currently inhabiting Hollywood don't meet that criteria.
Standing Wolf
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Anyone who preaches disarmament of the common people is an enemy of America.
"Enemy of America?"
My personal belief is that demonization of the other side of an issue, (unless of course one is demonizing Glock owners
), is counterproductive unless it is done with humor.
Gun control advocates are wrong, misguided, wrongheaded, afactual, illogical, pusillanimous, or just plain shrill, but "enemies of America" implies something more sinister than a difference in politics.
I never make the mistake that our side is the only one with heartfelt beliefs. The other side certainly seems to have no monopoly on overheated rhetoric either.
It is possible to be gentlemanly while twisting the knife in the opponent's innards. There is no need for humorless disrespect, it just makes us look petty.
My personal belief is that demonization of the other side of an issue, (unless of course one is demonizing Glock owners
), is counterproductive unless it is done with humor.Gun control advocates are wrong, misguided, wrongheaded, afactual, illogical, pusillanimous, or just plain shrill, but "enemies of America" implies something more sinister than a difference in politics.
I never make the mistake that our side is the only one with heartfelt beliefs. The other side certainly seems to have no monopoly on overheated rhetoric either.
It is possible to be gentlemanly while twisting the knife in the opponent's innards. There is no need for humorless disrespect, it just makes us look petty.
Wild Bill
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Agreed.
Mr. Peck seemed a man of honor, quiet dignity, and character. He was without question an actor of considerable talent. He may not have been on our side, but he stood by his beliefs without fail. For all these reasons he will always have my respect.
His beliefs may have made him the opposition in the RKBA battle; but they are a poor excuse to demonize or belittle the man. He lived his life in dignity. We should all treat his passing with the same.
Mr. Peck seemed a man of honor, quiet dignity, and character. He was without question an actor of considerable talent. He may not have been on our side, but he stood by his beliefs without fail. For all these reasons he will always have my respect.
His beliefs may have made him the opposition in the RKBA battle; but they are a poor excuse to demonize or belittle the man. He lived his life in dignity. We should all treat his passing with the same.
12-34hom
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RIP
Excellent actor - stand up person.
Quite unlike the current crop of talentless actors Hollywood has produced as of late.
As far as his politics goes, i would not classify him as a " enemy of America"!
But for some here, if you don't agree with what i believe in it's = "my way or the highway" =
12-34hom.
Excellent actor - stand up person.
Quite unlike the current crop of talentless actors Hollywood has produced as of late.
As far as his politics goes, i would not classify him as a " enemy of America"!
But for some here, if you don't agree with what i believe in it's = "my way or the highway" =
12-34hom.
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....I always enjoyed Peck's movies, my favorites were the following:
12 O'Clock High
Pork Chop Hill
The Guns of Navarone
MacArthur
McKenna's Gold
The Big Country
Can't say I agreed with his politics, many are not aware of it, but Peck was also close personal friends with French President Jacque Chirac....probably explains a lot...
12 O'Clock High
Pork Chop Hill
The Guns of Navarone
MacArthur
McKenna's Gold
The Big Country
Can't say I agreed with his politics, many are not aware of it, but Peck was also close personal friends with French President Jacque Chirac....probably explains a lot...
Frenchy
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Don't forget my all time Peck favorite..."To Kill a Mockingbird".
Wildalaska
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You tell em Boats!
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Mr. James
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RIP indeed, and may the Lord have mercy on his soul. Thanks, Boats.
It is of passing interest that the loony left are dancing on Charlton Heston's grave when he has yet to depart this mortal coil, yet we can, largely, still respect the man while disagreeing intensely with his chosen causes.
Contrast that with the anti celebreties who actively wished him a violent death merely for his views.
RIP, Mr. Peck, may the Lord take and keep you.
It is of passing interest that the loony left are dancing on Charlton Heston's grave when he has yet to depart this mortal coil, yet we can, largely, still respect the man while disagreeing intensely with his chosen causes.
Contrast that with the anti celebreties who actively wished him a violent death merely for his views.
RIP, Mr. Peck, may the Lord take and keep you.
fallingblock
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It's a great pity.....
That Gregory Peck did not have the practical approach to firearms displayed by his character, Atticus Finch, in "To Kill a Mockingbird"
The mad dog in the street scene -
Atticus steps into his house, returns with a .30/40 Krag Carbine, sets the leaf sight and shoots the dog from an offhand position.
Now there was a character whose approach to life was practical and deserving of respect...
Still, Gregory Peck certainly was w-a-ay ahead of the likes of Alec Baldwin when it comes to respectability. And Peck could act.
That Gregory Peck did not have the practical approach to firearms displayed by his character, Atticus Finch, in "To Kill a Mockingbird"
The mad dog in the street scene -
Atticus steps into his house, returns with a .30/40 Krag Carbine, sets the leaf sight and shoots the dog from an offhand position.
Now there was a character whose approach to life was practical and deserving of respect...
Still, Gregory Peck certainly was w-a-ay ahead of the likes of Alec Baldwin when it comes to respectability. And Peck could act.
Gray Peterson
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Peck, though a gun grabber...
Was not the type to go on politics of personal destruction that the Baldwin brothers or many of the other hollywierd liberals did. The man believed in his beliefs, and respected others in their beliefs, too. The fact that Charlton Heston and Gregory Peck still respected each other despite their political differences is a testimony to Peck's general character, even if he was against us on one issue.
Was not the type to go on politics of personal destruction that the Baldwin brothers or many of the other hollywierd liberals did. The man believed in his beliefs, and respected others in their beliefs, too. The fact that Charlton Heston and Gregory Peck still respected each other despite their political differences is a testimony to Peck's general character, even if he was against us on one issue.
Feanaro
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He might not have been on our side but, AFAIK, he kept it to himself. He had a dignity that most Hollywhore stars simply don't have and will never have.
Ol' Badger
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Don't forget "Duel In The Sun" He played the BG and he seemed to like to shoot the hogleg of his.
Ol' Badger
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Moby Dick
DAMN THE WHITE WHALE!!!
Had To. Sorry. 
DAMN THE WHITE WHALE!!!
Had To. Sorry.
From everything I've read he was a decent man and honest. I disagreed strongly with many of his political views. But at least from all I know, he was honestly wrong, and not a hypocrite like so many in your face liberals today. I recall a biography film on Charleton Heston where they interviewed Peck, he said that while he disagreed with "Chuck" on the "gun thing" that he was a fine actor, a fine man, and a good friend. He had strong lifelong friendships with many staunch conservatives. He also treated people with dignity and respect, whether he agreed with them or not, or whether they deserved respect. That is a rare thing in this world and even rarer in Hollywood. He was also a fine actor, his portrayal of Atticus Finch is one of the greatest star performances on film. So, despite his political views, I for one will mourn the passing of a decent and honorable man and a fine actor.
Ol' Badger
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Hey why weep! We still have George Clooney don't we
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JohnBT
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George Clooney?
I thought we were discussing actors.
John
I thought we were discussing actors.
John
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