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Gun advice...plan on buying

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Care to hear from an AR15 newbie?

Lots of great information has been given so far, some that I wish I had known before my recent purchases.

My first advice, is don't do it. You'll want more, and more, and more.

That out of the way...

I don't think you'll touch a new Colt for $800. Still, that would be an excellent rifle, probably the best of the big manufacturers.

I bought my first AR used through one of the online auction sites, and got a virtually new Bushmaster 20" flattop with free floating barrel for $650 after all costs were paid. (Buying used from the Internet can be risky, but I follow common sense guidelines and do pretty well.) Then, I had to start accessorizing...

Optics. This is the flattop, varmint version with no front sight tower, which was exactly what I wanted. But, that means I needed some optics. I finally settled on a Leupold 6X 42mm, for a bit over $300. (I think we just blew by $800.) And, a mount. I bought the Armalite one piece for another close to $100. Let's not get into things like extra mags, AR15 specific cleaning equipment, and stuff like that.

Now you'd think that I'd be a happy camper, huh? But noooooo... I started seeing pics of the carbines, and ended up plopping down a bit over $400 for a flattop 16" M4 profile upper. Got a great deal on a new upper that had a RRA upper receiver, bolt, carrier and charging handle, and a Bushmaster barrel assembly. But, the scope isn't quite right for carbine, so I, for now, get the ARMS 40 flip up sight, for another $100. Still, a CompC ML2 would be nice... (You catching on, yet?)

Then I start reading AR15.com and get the bug to build my own lower receiver. So, a RRA stripped receiver and parts kit arrive for another $150. Need a couple tools, too. And of course, the VLTOR Modstock Clubfoot, another $130 with the buffer stuff. Man, that makes a NICE carbine! (Add more mags...)

Then my son sends a pic of himself carrying his A2 20" M16 in his treks through the hills of Afghanistan, and I think, "Boy, it would be nice to have a 20" A2 upper, too! Maybe I can build one." I find a used, complete A2 upper receiver for $80, and a call to Bushmaster has a 20" barrel assembly on the way. Oh, and a few more tools.

Oh, and don't forget ammo. Lots of ammo. And I reload, so I need more reloading stuff.

(Are you catching on, YET?)
 
Grampa

You are my kinda guy...what a role model.

The way I look at it, if I don't spend the $$ on guns 'n stuff, my wife will just buy more furniture (and then I gotta get a bigger house....)

:D

S.
 
ok i think i get it now but i just have one more question for Bartholamew, what kind of rings is the scope in the picture mounted on; short ,medium,or high rise rings?
 
Let me ask another question. I too am looking at a Bushmaster, I am more specifically looking at the A2 (standard military version'ish).

There are several uppers I will buy over the next few years. Will the lowers wear out under normal use? If so how long should they last and are they simple to rebuild?
 
I have a colt 6400c it is 14.5" barrel cost mid 900s and am totally satisfied.
It is very accurate great finish no problems in 2000+ rds. BTW colt is lifetime
warranted as well.
 
ok i think i get it now but i just have one more question for Bartholamew, what kind of rings is the scope in the picture mounted on; short ,medium,or high rise rings?
I don't mean to step on Bart's toes here...

The scope in the picture is a Trijicon TA11. I'm assuming it's a picture of Bart's actual scope, in which case it's mounted on an ARMS #19ACOG mount. There's no rings for the ACOG scopes. Check the Trijicon website and you'll see what I mean. There's no rings, there are just mounts.

Oh yeah, if you covet his scope (I do), you won't be able to stick to your $800 budget. :D
 
Techbrute got the details of the scope right (except it is the #19S ACOG mount). That isn't sitting in rings; but its height above bore is about 2.6"-2.7". The front sight post on an AR15 is normally about 2.5"-2.6" above the bore.

Suffice to say that the front sight post sits squarely in front of the objective as this picture shows:

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There are several uppers I will buy over the next few years. Will the lowers wear out under normal use?

Lowers can wear out like any other part; but it is rare for them to wear out under normal use. In 1992, I encountered armory M16s from the National Guard that were marked XM16E1 and had the three prong flashiders still installed. This would mean that the lowers on those rifles dated from the mid-60s and had survived about 30 years of military use and opossibly even service in Vietnam (and we all know how things that Uncle Sam pays for get treated). I've also seen active duty Air Force SPs carrying lowers marked AR15 as late as 1997 - which would be rifles even older than the above mentioned rifles.
 
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