Gun banner to deter would-be intruder?
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i think in any house, guns are usually least valuable and usually locked, i don't think burglars will go for gun specifically unless that's what he needs, but if he doesn't have a gun and it will be pretty stupid breaking into a house that's armed
the common wisdom is the best defense against a danger is not to get into one
surprise a burglar? you must be kidding me, but no thanks
the common wisdom is the best defense against a danger is not to get into one
surprise a burglar? you must be kidding me, but no thanks
9MMare
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From my reading on here, people having one gun often have alot MORE than one gun, hence, a true bonus for thieves
They probably know this. I do not hold to the perspective that most criminals are stupid. I do however, believe they are expedient and have many many less considerations when it comes to pulling a trigger.
Altho I see both sides of this argument, I land on the side that a) knowlege is power and it gives criminals an advantage to know I'm armed and b) it's advertising guns for free when I'm not home.
dirtykid
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The only evidence of guns around my house is the NRA_sticker in back window of mom-taxi and a little 4x6 rub-on sticker hidden until you step unto my front deck that has a picture of SA-revolver and wording "we dont call 911" underneath it ,, my gun-safe is home-made and is built into closet so my 50" lcd tv and my kids x-box's ,PS3's and wii-console probaly will fill their hands quik enough , if you dont know the safe is there you'd have to pillage thru my wifes out-of-season clothes to even expose the door, we live about 4-miles out of city-limits so the crime-monkeys dont like to walk that far,and i have the snoopy-neighbor crime watch,besides a large church right next door that is also a school , and my neighbor directly north of me works 5-pm to 2am and he's usually awake till 4 or so every night before going to bed himself,, dogs across street bark at ANYTHING so i think in my case it's probaly safe,,
sm
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Agree with Carl.
Just me, but I would be hesitant to get near a house with "Leper" or some similar terrible disease.
Then again I change sides of the street when I see a house, or vehicle in a driveway with Democrat signage, posters, decals, etc.
Just me you unnerstand...
Just me, but I would be hesitant to get near a house with "Leper" or some similar terrible disease.
Then again I change sides of the street when I see a house, or vehicle in a driveway with Democrat signage, posters, decals, etc.
Just me you unnerstand...
bikerdoc
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Carl got it right. I do the same thing. By all outward appearance I am the just the Grandpa of the neighborhood. But a well prepared grandpa.
geekWithA.45
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As a general class, right up until they hear the loud BOOMS, most criminals don't believe they will be caught, opposed, or shot at.
There is a small, but substantial minority of criminals who simply aren't afraid of guns or being shot at, so it's best to shoot straight.
In either case, betting on them being impressed by signage isn't the way to go.
There is a small, but substantial minority of criminals who simply aren't afraid of guns or being shot at, so it's best to shoot straight.
In either case, betting on them being impressed by signage isn't the way to go.
yhtomit
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Flipside to the "NO GUNS IN HOUSE" banner idea
Over the years, I've heard (and approved of / chuckled at) the often made suggestion to those who believe that guns are not a disincentive to criminals / burglars that they should therefore be happy to post a big sign out front reflecting their values, along the lines of "UNARMED" or "NO GUNS HERE."
Goes to show that life is double-edged sometimes; as many have said already, *not knowing* (on the part of a would-be intruder) is a good thing, since an announcement of "GUNS ON PREMISES" could work the wrong way.
Closest thing I've had was a sticker for many years on a now-departed car that said "Criminals Prefer Unarmed Victims." Trying now to be a bit stealthier ... but I still like the sentiment. Maybe soon enough I'll use only electronic bumper stickers that can be switched off when appropriate.
timothy
Over the years, I've heard (and approved of / chuckled at) the often made suggestion to those who believe that guns are not a disincentive to criminals / burglars that they should therefore be happy to post a big sign out front reflecting their values, along the lines of "UNARMED" or "NO GUNS HERE."
Goes to show that life is double-edged sometimes; as many have said already, *not knowing* (on the part of a would-be intruder) is a good thing, since an announcement of "GUNS ON PREMISES" could work the wrong way.
Closest thing I've had was a sticker for many years on a now-departed car that said "Criminals Prefer Unarmed Victims." Trying now to be a bit stealthier ... but I still like the sentiment. Maybe soon enough I'll use only electronic bumper stickers that can be switched off when appropriate.
timothy
BIGGBAY90
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Which state/city is strict on gun laws
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Gordon_Freeman
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A thief will case your home and determine when you are not there. Those signs might tempt a thief to choose your home because guns are easy to sell.
Gun stuff all over the outside of your house. . . . because burglars don't like stealing guns, and aren't smart enough to just break in when you aren't there.
You're better off making your home a hard target with stuff that doesn't scream "come steal my stuff later". Like security system signage (and the system to go with it), good exterior lighting, good visibility to the street, etc.
You're better off making your home a hard target with stuff that doesn't scream "come steal my stuff later". Like security system signage (and the system to go with it), good exterior lighting, good visibility to the street, etc.
ns66 said:
Because a serial number isn't exactly traceable unless somebody reports that serial number stolen to Police Dept "A", and somebody else with that serial number in their hot little hands calls Police Dept "A" to see if it's stolen. If the buyer of a stolen gun doesn't ask, and the seller doesn't tell, then nobody knows.
Mac2
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I don't advertise anything. Let it be the element of surprise. The majority of my firearms are well locked up, and the house is alarmed.
A pro gun sign means there are guns available. A security alarm sign means you have something you want to protect, cut the phone line first. I don't advertise either. Don't let me catch you here, up to no good. Just my .02c.
A pro gun sign means there are guns available. A security alarm sign means you have something you want to protect, cut the phone line first. I don't advertise either. Don't let me catch you here, up to no good. Just my .02c.
kingpin008
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Exactly. Jewelry is bad because most criminals tend to avoid places like pawn shops. Pawn shops ask questions, have security cameras, and make you fill out forms (often including driver's license or other ID). Fencing the goods through other means (usually black-market type stuff) is usually easier, since there aren't any questions asked. This is great for stuff like stereos and whatnot, but more unique items like jewelry are harder to get rid of, especially in bulk, because they're more likely to be unique (and therefore noticeable). Try selling a few stereo systems and a big display of jewelry out of a van and see which raises the most eyebrows.
Selling a gun on the street is another matter. Cash and carry, no questions, and the seller is not gonna be interested in reporting the gun stolen, which as Mr. Clean mentioned negates the serial number issue - if it hasn't already been obliterated, of course.
yeah as if any law abiding citizens in their right mind will buy guns from questionable source with stolen serial number, that's a crime as i understand it, if you buy from private owner without FFL check serial number first, not to get some nasty surprise
i seriously don't buy "give intruder surprise" idea, read a few books of self defense case studies you will learn alot (like "ayoob files", "thank god i had a gun" etc....), remember best defense against crime is not to get into one!
i seriously don't buy "give intruder surprise" idea, read a few books of self defense case studies you will learn alot (like "ayoob files", "thank god i had a gun" etc....), remember best defense against crime is not to get into one!
ATBackPackin
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I personally agree with not advertising and keeping the element of surprise on my side. I wouldn't want my house to be a target while I am not home or even worse, a target while the wife and I are home and have 3 or 4 heavily armed people breaking in because they know that I am armed.
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kingpin008
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Who said anything about law abiding citizens? Criminals who steal guns re-sell them to other criminals. It's not rocket science.
Hate to bust your bubble, but a private citizen can't check the serial number on their own. Some police departments might do it if you call them and ask, but the vast majority will tell you to go pound sand.
Even if you could check a serial before buying, there's no guarantee that it'll raise a flag if the gun is indeed stolen. In order for the gun to be flagged stolen, the owner has to have noticed that it's gone, made a police report, and the police to have recorded the serial (if the owner remembers it/has it stored somewhere). Even if that all happens, there is no mandatory national database of stolen weapons.
What does that have to do with the given situation? How does one "not get into" a home burglary? Not have a home? Live in an impenetrable fortress?
No matter what you do (or don't do, for that matter) if a criminal wants to target your home, they will. You can make it less likely for them to succeed in gaining access, but there is no way to "not get into" this type of crime.
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When your sign announces "guns available here," would-be burglars simply case your house, find out when nobody's home, and help themselves to your hardware.
The best strategy is when many law-abiding citizens are armed, but criminals don't know who they are.
The best strategy is when many law-abiding citizens are armed, but criminals don't know who they are.
Slightly related - in San Antonio, we've had a few instances of cars being broken into after stopping to eat on the way back from the range. Guys do into the restaurant and come out to find the gun gear and guns are gone.
Obviously, the BGs had knowledge that the owners were probably armed but not at the car.
We also had cases where folks were cased to have guns in their house and then robbed. Workmen or their kid's friends hit the joint when the homeowners were out.
Obviously, the BGs had knowledge that the owners were probably armed but not at the car.
We also had cases where folks were cased to have guns in their house and then robbed. Workmen or their kid's friends hit the joint when the homeowners were out.
woodsoup
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He77, my "NO SOLICETORS" sign doesn't work 60%of the time!
when would-be intruders stop by your house and see gun posters on front door, they move on to next house, why is this so hard to understand?
let me ask you, if you play the role of burglar, you need money and want to break in houses to get valuables, how do you scout and find potential targets? you honestly can tell me out of 10 similar houses in an area you picked the one with gun posters and 10-shot-on-chest target on the front door? if so then i rest my case and good luck
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