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Gun-Runners, Beware

Discussion in 'Legal' started by 2dogs, May 9, 2003.

  1. 2dogs

    2dogs Participating Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    the city
    See, it's "bad" states like VA, GA, and PA that are the problem- but Chuckie has a plan to fix that.:barf:


    Gun-Runners, Beware

    RICO prosecutions could help keep bullets from flying in Syracuse
    May 08, 2003

    Question: How easy is it to get a gun illegally in Syracuse? Answer: Too easy.

    In recent years, hundreds of illegal weapons have found their way into the wrong hands in Central New York. How? Simple. Drive to Pennsylvania, or Virginia, or Georgia, or any other state with lax gun laws, and buy as many handguns as you like - for cash. (If you have a criminal record, bring along a friend to make the purchases for you.) Then drive home, spread the word and wait for customers. You can turn a tidy profit. You don't have to comply with New York's stricter gun-purchase laws - or bother about buyers with criminal records or what they do with the guns.

    This is not how-to guide for gun-runners. It's a wake-up call that gun-running is out of control. With the recent spate of shootings in Syracuse; with memories still fresh of last year's record 25 homicide deaths in Syracuse, 14 of them gunshot victims; with local authorities and community leaders joining in an unprecedented assault on juvenile violence, it is imperative to keep guns out of town.

    In December, Syracuse police said they had removed bureaucratic roadblocks to tracing a backlog of some 400 handguns recovered in recent years. That same month, federal agents arrested 14 men allegedly running guns up from Georgia. Because they were crossing state lines, the feds took jurisdiction. Late last month, two Syracuse men pleaded guilty to involvement in separate gun-running rings. On a visit to Syracuse, U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer wondered if there might be an even bigger conspiracy out there.

    Fifteen of the 70 weapons reportedly sold by the gun-runners have been recovered. One was used in a carjacking in Brooklyn. Three others were picked up in Syracuse crime probes. How many more are out there, ready to be used and used again in the bloody violence that ruins families and tears at the community?

    The feds can seek stiffer sentences than local prosecutors. But the penalties have not deterred the gun-runners. So Schumer has come up with an innovative idea: He is asking Attorney General John Ashcroft to charge such suspects as racketeers.

    Under the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations law (RICO), aimed at organized crime, prosecutors could broaden their investigations and present more evidence at trial. They could seek even harsher penalties, treble damages and recovery of legal costs, forfeiture of property. They could even target stores that sold the guns. RICO prosecutions require proof of an over-arching conspiracy. With authorities cooperating up and down the line, it's time to make the case.
  2. El Tejon

    El Tejon Elder

    Dec 24, 2002
    Lafayette, Indiana-the Ned Flanders neighbor to Il
    Ummm, doesn't Ol' Virginny limit you to one (1) pistola a month? Would the Democrats and their media lie to us?
  3. JohnBT

    JohnBT Elder

    Dec 26, 2002
    Richmond, Virginia
    Virginia's One-Handgun-Per-Month law went into effect on July 1, 1993.

    You can, if you like, go to the State Police and convince them to sign a form for you that allows you to buy more than one at a time, like a collection or matched pair of handguns. A new form is required for each purchase and their is an expiration date on the form IIRC.

  4. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Might make more sense to send criminals out of town—or would that be too obvious a solution?
  5. sm

    sm member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Between black coffee, and shiftn' gears
    Lets see, we have too many gun laws as is--personally feel we need NONE of these.

    So we need to make another law? Gun running huh?. Well IIRC the gummit tried this with booze and all that did was make the Kennedy's rich and give us NASCAR...didn't do a darn thing to quell the booze coming into "borders".

    Where do you think the Kennedy's got their money? NASCAR came from 'outrunning the revenuers'".

    Wonder you'll get rich, what "inventive improvements" we can come up with to outrun the suits.

    People will get what they want or need. Why do you think black markets exist, or survive?.

    <sarcasm off>
  6. Tom B

    Tom B New Member

    Dec 28, 2002
    If you are going to "drive to Georgia" to buy a gun you better have a Georgia DL or other proof that you have been a state resident for at least 90 days.

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