Gun Show Follies

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HankB

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Well, after missing a few, I hit the monthly Austin show today. Here are a few of the more noteworthy points . . .

1. The guy from Arsenal USA had, in addition to his usual selection of AK-clone rifles and parts, a couple of BHPs. To my eye, they appeared re-Parkerized. But I mention this only because the one with "Fabrique Nationale Belgique" visible through the park on the slide also was labeled with a hand-lettered sign stating it was an "Original Browning - Not An Import." ("Belgique" is a small town in Utah, right?)

2. The guy with the non-complaint Izzy FAL (I've seen this rifle at the show for at least the past two years) apparently tried to make it compliant by taking off the Izzy flash hider and substituting a more conventional FAL flash hider.

3. The guys with smoked sausage and jerky had exceptionally, uh, let's say aromatic - product. (Note: Here in Central Texas, it gets HOT in summer. And if you leave edible inventory in the vehicles . . . .)

4. A guy was selling a Robinson Arms .223 carbine with a top-feeding magazine like the old Bren guns. Front and rear sights were offset to the left. IIRC he was asking about $1700.

5. The people with all the magazines had their usual specials. (Example: 2nd generation 17-rd mag for a Glock 17, only $129.95.) I suppose after Sept. 14 they'll have to drop the "1" on the price.

6. S&W 500 mag for about $800. S&W 329 for $665 "after $25 rebate." (Couldn't remember if this was the version recalled for blowing off the barrels.)

7. Port .308 ammo in 200 round battle packs for under $40. Vintage looked like mid-70's, so it was a bit older than the usual. Win .44 mag ammo for $17.25/50, tax included.

8. Beretta CX4 Storm with 2 factory 15's, 2 factory 10s, and a coupon for two more factory 15s (for AFTER the AWB expires) for $560.

9. Guy selling fantasy elven edged weapons and Klingon (?) daggers . . . he had almost as much hardware poked through his face as he had on the table.

10. "Cold Steel" brand knife demonstration DVDs for $5 . . . local gun shop was giving them away free. Also old (1980s) vintage catalogs for Remington, Winchester, etc. for $3 each. When I think of the money I threw away in years gone by . . . :rolleyes:

11. Table with a whole row of Garands and a couple of M1A's. No price tags. Guy had wandered away - I guess they were there just to be looked at.

12. Usual jewelry, "tactical" slings, "tactical" holsters, "tactical" this and "tactical" that.

13. An S&W that had been custom made for Charlie Sheen. Charlie had apparently been quite a gun collector, until he made the acquaintance of Mr. Cocain, at which point Uncle Sam told him to stop hanging around with his gun collection.

14. A FAL lower with a 9mm upper, set up to take a 70+ round Suomi drum magazine. Kind of interesting, actually . . . but not $735 interesting, at least to me.

15. Broomhandle Mauser for over $2000. S&W 49 (?) snub with some aftermarket engraving - not particularly well done - for, IIRC, about $1700. Used S&W M17 6" for $475. Beat up 4" M686 for $430.

Well, that's it. I'm not going into all the beater junk, P22s with fake silencers, grungy old military rifles, and so forth. Overall, the show was almost - but not quite - worth the price of admission.

Gun shows were a lot better even 5 years ago.
 
Table with a whole row of Garands and a couple of M1A's. No price tags.
Saw that last week at a gun show here, except there WERE price tags.

$800-900 for shooters, $1600 for one Garand with a match barrel. :scrutiny:

I've seen the same guns at the show here for three years, but there is one reloading component guy who has good deals on everything, buy a couple pounds of powder and get your $5 back. Couple other tables always have some interesting milsurp ammo.
 
At a recent Richmond gun show, I saw a guy walking around with a used Loaded M1A with a tag advertising it for sale for $1999, only $500 over the list price for a new one :rolleyes:

And then, I saw an preban M1A with a solid walnut handguard.... odd.... so I looked closer.

It was in excellent shape.

All USGI parts.

National Match Barrel.

Serial number was low 14,000s.

Dealer only wanted $1000 for it.

:what:

I walked away, and kicked myself later. :banghead: I coulda scored, either used it for parts for my current M1A or sold it for a significant profit....
 
My view on the Austin show today

Besides what Hank saw there was the typical overpriced stuff but a couple of goo deals, Colt SP1 unfired for $1000, Saw another guy give $60 for one of those 22 rifles that look like an AR15, Armscor? The deals at these shows seem to be what the customers are walking around with, some want retail and some are giving it away.
Me? I picked up a gorgeous FAL with a new Imbel receiver, carbine length, with Ironwood furniture for a very fair cash price. :D
 
Gunshow two weeks ago had M-1 carbine 15 rounders for $40.00.

Over on Gunsamerica, there is a store selling CX4 Storm carbines with a Hakko red dot and vertical handguard and an underbarrel light for $1200 . Basically, the same configuration I have (OKO Sight and M-3 illuminator) and it didn't cost me anywhere near $1200. :scrutiny:
 
Every gun show in Cali I've been to is way worse than what you describe.

Few guns but lots of gear, readables, foodstuffs, tools and the like.


And it costs $5 to get in....:rolleyes:
 
The shows held in Nashville should not be called "Gun Show". Should be called, "Whole Lotta Knives and a Few Guns Show". I keep swearing I'm not going back.
 
The shows held in Nashville should not be called "Gun Show". Should be called, "Whole Lotta Knives and a Few Guns Show". I keep swearing I'm not going back.

The Bill Goodman show at the Fairgrounds? I buy ammo and the occasional part or accessory but I've never bought a gun there. They're almost all overpriced. There was a better show (larger, more variety at least) at the old Wal-Mart in Smyrna but they've gone from every other month to about twice a year. Rather annoying that.
 
"Does anyone have any explanations as to why gun shows just seem to be getting worse and worse?"

I'll take a whack at it.

How many times have we heard someone advise "Never sell a gun"?
If the majority of gun hoarder/collectors are not selling, and I don't, then where are the dealers going to get their used gun inventory so we can buy some more?

There're just too many people with too much money and too many guns they're not interested in selling. The typical gun show in Richmond probably doesn't have a dozen people walking around with guns to trade or sell. Everybody else is carrying cash and looking for something to buy.

John
 
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot . . . there was the young man wearing a camouflage tactical skirt . . . and the amply-endowed young lady attending the show with her father or uncle ( Sure . . . :rolleyes: ) wearing a much-too-small, midriff-baring T-shirt carrying the logo "Jesus Is My Homeboy."
I picked up a gorgeous FAL with a new Imbel receiver, carbine length, with Ironwood furniture . . .
Hmmm . . . if you were there Saturday AM, around ten or so, it just might have been me walking by in back of you . . . I saw the seller in deep discusion with "someone" and overheard him mention that the internals were all "quality" parts. Hope you enjoy the rifle.
"Does anyone have any explanations as to why gun shows just seem to be getting worse and worse?"
Reason #1: Places like gunbroker.com. If you can find a dealer who'll do a transfer for $20 or $25, you'll get a better deal than you can from a dealer who has to buy a gun or take it in trade and carry it in his inventory. Reason #2: Fewer non-FFL holding collectors are at shows any more, as the BATmen have harassed individuals who have the temerity to regularly sell off parts of their collections at tables. (Many of these have gone to gunbroker.) Reason #3: Fewer dealers, a legacy of the Klinton administration's war on small, "kitchen table" businesses. Reason #4: Good guns don't come up for sale on the used market . . . people, afraid of more restrictions, tend to keep what they have.
 
Guns shows here in South Florida are getting more frequent and better IMO. More deals larger variety but lately they have been so crowded that you can barely move down the aisles or get help when you see something that catches your eye. Only problem I have with the shows is the unbelievable amount of S&W Revolvers, Glocks and HKs. I dunno who is buying so many but half the tables seem to be fulled up with those. I wish we had more people selling milsurp rifles.
 
Used to be the semi annual guns show was my only gun connection outside of the two or three pawnshops in town. My last five or seven purchases have been thru the internet. Take the gun auction sites and the want/sell sections of the six or so gun forums I'm in and there is no reason to go to a pitiful gunshow. I'll go to sell something occasionally though and
sometimes find something, but not often.

rk
 
I went to show in Melbourne Florida yesterday and although I'm fairly new to the scene (this was the second gunshow I've been to), I wasn't overly impressed. I only saw one or two non-FFL tables selling firearms, and there weren't many good deals anywhere.

Good deals: The large professional dealers, attendees with signs, a box of Star BMs for $160, misc items.
Not so good: Almost everything that you can buy surplus right now, an Intratec pistol in the mid $700s,

Since I'm short on cash right now, I decided to go with an online auction or store soon, and didn't get anything at the show. It was still very fun of course, and I did get to handle a lot of hardware (the CX4 Storm feels great) but at the moment, I can't really justify the prices.
 
Welcome to the High Road Locus. This weekends Melbourne Gun Show was pretty lame compared to the last 2 shows. I did see a few cool antiques but since I don't have the cash to collect antique guns I was only able to drool a little bit and move on. The green table in the side room (Florida Gun Exchange?) usually has decent prices and the guy with the surplus walthers ans stars usually has a decent deal or two. I saw some nice deals walking around the show but some of the dealers that are usually set up didn't attend this show. I usually hit the shows for entertainment value and to pick up the occasional accessories. If you need ammo, the gentleman who was there selling all the reloads and supplies is a local business owner. The company is called "John's Precision Cast Bullets" and he produces great ammo. I buy all my target ammo from him and most of my friends who reload buy their supplies from him at his local shop.
 
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