Guns and alchohol consumption - Poll

Your level of tolerance Firearms and alchohol use

  • Never a drop, it's disgusting behavior I don't condone.

    Votes: 388 67.4%
  • My partner has a couple beers, no problem.

    Votes: 27 4.7%
  • My partner and I shoot after a few beers, no big deal.

    Votes: 65 11.3%
  • I'll have a few beers alone sometimes before shooting.

    Votes: 17 3.0%
  • I don't drink, none of my friends do, never have, never will, period.

    Votes: 56 9.7%
  • The guys get together after several beers and sometimes shoot.

    Votes: 22 3.8%
  • I've been legally "drunk" and fired a gun.

    Votes: 36 6.3%
  • I've fired a gun on a mixture of alchohol and some drugs.

    Votes: 25 4.3%

  • Total voters
    576
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I like a Crown & 7 every here and there. I don't ever get drunk. I don't like losing control of my senses. I carry a pistol whenever I'm awake(execpt in the shower), I don't feel I should lose the right of self-protection because I had a drink. That said, I do not condone being drunk (loss of self-control) and having a firearm on you. I have never gone shooting after drinking. I only drink at the end of the day, and only at my home. Bars aren't for me, so the restriction on carrying in a bar is irrelavant to me. I would also leave a shooting event if I saw someone arrive with a case of beer.
 
I'm a "little" guilty of breaking that rule!!

I might have a couple of beers BEFORE target practice---helps me relax, or I think it does and

the empty cans make cheap targets!!

I won't leave my property after drinking a few to go shooting some where else.

I'd NEVER go hunting after a couple of beers, but then I don't hunt much anymore---just groundhogs with in walking distance.
 
I'm sitting here with a .45 LC revolver on my left ankle and a beer in front of me as I type this.

Been doing it since God was a boy and I ain't shot nobody by accident yet.

*Know Thyself*.

Biker:)
 
I don't really see a choice that describes me. I drink and shoot separately. I definitely consume my fair share of alcohol, in fact I'm having a glass of wine right now. I'm a big whiskey fan and a beer drinker.

However, I don't shoot while "drunk." That said, if I were at an outdoor range, I wouldn't think it entirely inappropriate to fire a gun after a drink or two, tops.

But that would have to be the very rare occasion. When the gun is out, the alcohol is away. When the alcohol is out, the gun is away.
 
I read threads like this and I can't help thinking, "MAN Americans are weird!"

You think you are responsible enough to carry a gun around but you aren't responsible enough to set your own alcohol consumption limit? That makes NO sense. If you are a responsible person you should know how you respond to alcohol and you should limit your behavior accordingly.

Of course, I've always thought this was one of the more apt movie quotes:
I distrust a man who says "when." If he's got to be careful not to drink too much, it's because he's not to be trusted when he does.

And, for the record, I rarely drink. Doesn't mean I shouldn't, can't, or won't.
 
My first trap league had an indoor seating area with a window where you could buy ammo and ...beer. So I, just like everyone else in the room would have a few beers as we waited for our names to be called. Of course I would not get hammered, just one or two so as not to get a bad score...I shot 25 on several occasions and just missed the new shooter award.

albeit, I was very surprised to see this and would think it was illegal, but this was Montana!!

I miss Montana
 
".....hey man...hold my beer, I wanna show you something really cool!..."


Even a small amount of alcohol inhibits ones thinking and hand to eye coordination. I don't care how well you can "hold your liquor". You don't have to be drunk to make a once in a (shortened) lifetime mistake. It's just not worth it. Things that are normally second nature (the 4 laws) can get overlooked quickly with even a small dose of alcohol.
 
My buddy drinks a couple of beers after shooting, I don't, before or after.

I don't drink before because I have to shoot, I don't drink after because I have to drive :p

If I have a beer while not driving or shooting (sounds like a drive-by :p) I enjoy a La trappe Quadruple (10°) or Duvel (8.5°).

a couple of those and shooting skills get worse :)
 
I don't see a choice that fits me. I don't currently drink, but have absolutely nothing against it, and if the mood strikes me I may pick up a bottle of wine or champagne for a special occasion. I don't see a poll option for people like me who don't happen to drink, but who don't vow absolute abstinence or view drinking with disdain. I'm OK with alcohol use, but have no taste for it; like the Wierd Al song, I'll stick to my Earl Gray tea...
 
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Like ben ezra said I dont drink I gave it up a while ago. I was one of those people who didnt have the luxury of just a few drinks. Hell the people at the jim beam distillery probably got their christmas bonuses from my wallet. Anyway I have no problem with drinking, when I take groups on offshore trips they can bring as much beer as they want but firearms and booze dont mix. And in some places I think its a crime to be under the influence and posses a firearm.
 
There is not a poll choice that I feel represents me accurately so I will just type it out.

I drink occasionally, usually one or two drinks over the course of a few hours. I am usually carrying at the time only because I am usually carrying at any given time.

You gotta know your limits.
 
I don't drink ever

but I have friends who do, I've been out shooting machine guns
with people who were drinking, if they get to drunk they stop shooting.

I wish the poll had an option for people like me, I don't drink and don't make moral judgments if people do.
 
Ok,

I don't drink, never have and unlikely to ever drink. However, one of the basic 'life lessons' I had drilled into me growing up was everybody has a God given right to frick up their lives as they see fit.

But...

When operating a deadly weapon, no matter if that weapon is a automobile, drag crane, farm tractor or firearm an impaired operator is an insult to the peace and dignity of a civilized society. In my opinion, any operator of the aforementioned weapons with ANY intoxicant in their system should be removed from society (i.e. incarcerated) for no less than five years. No less than twenty if an injury results and life if death results. His fault, their fault, nobody's fault. Half a beer, a small glass of wine or one toke. No mercy, no excuses no tolerance.

Selena
 
Well Selena, I'm glad you're not in charge. There are some remarks I'm refusing to make, as bad as I want to.

Biker
 
I like an occassional drink, but when I am strapped, I just say "NO". I will never violate this rule of mine, and that is often how I become the designated driver. I don't mind that at all (see sig line).
 
Hi Biker,

There are some remarks I'm refusing to make, as bad as I want to.

It's OK, I've heard them before, FWIW on the driving side of it I've a history of working toward providing free rides for those that have been drinking and have sense enough not to operate a vehicle. I also was active in having the BAC in Indiana lowered to .8. In the case of a firearm... Once again, can you tell me honestly that the 'reasonable man' will say that a person with alcohol in their systems are equally careful than one completely sober? Are we as citizens not duty bound to handle the weapons we choose to possess in a manner that is in the best interests of our neighbors as well as ourselves?

Selena
 
Dear Biker,

Had I ever told you that you are the king of cool, the thrilla gorilla, the butterfly floating, bee stinging mo-fo of a poster?
 
The problem with the peculiar American attitude towards alcohol is that it creates a false impression that alcohol is some super-powerful remover of sense and inhibition. Suddenly people use it as an excuse. More than that, many experience placebo intoxication because they are told that 0.08% BAC or whatever is enough to leave you stumbling or unable to make sound judgments. They use mild intoxication as an excuse.

That does nobody any favors.

I've seen people, grown adults, act like idiots after being served one glass of of non-alcoholic beer. Nobody told them it was non-alcoholic and they had an expectation of how they should behave after a beer and so they played it out. I've seen other people exercise extremely good judgment, write excellent computer programs, write beautiful prose, and do other extremely difficult intellectual and physical tasks, sometimes under high stress, after three or four shots of hard liquor in an hour.

You know the difference? The people who become stumble-drunks after a near-beer are fools who have bought into the "alcohol is a super drug" BS. They want an excuse to act like idiots and the idea of alcohol gives them that excuse. The other people were responsible adults who knew, even while intoxicated, what was important. They were (and are) of good character and sound judgment drunk or sober. I'd much rather have 100 of them around me with a few beers in them than 1 idiot looking for an excuse to act out who hadn't had a beer in 30 years.

Trying to keep everyone from drinking and doing other things because some people use drink as an excuse to act like idiots is no different than barring everyone from owning firearms because some people go on shooting sprees. It is irrational and counterproductive.

As for people who have never imbibed and never will... I had my first beer exactly where everyone should have their first drink: At home, at the dinner table, with my parents. I was a young teen and yeah, they broke laws by giving me that beer. But you know what? The laws are wrong. Just as wrong as a law saying that a parent couldn't teach their child to shoot a gun would be. I learned responsible drinking the way many people around here say they learned responsible gun handling. I learned that drink is not an excuse, and drink is not an automatic destroyer of judgment, and that you can and should be responsible and sensible when drinking.

There are people who think that the fact that you want to carry a loaded gun is evidence that you are not responsible enough to do so. There are people who think that the fact that you want a drink is evidence that you are not responsible enough to have one. Both positions are based in ignorance and fear.

If you are ignorant, if you don't drink because you don't know what happens or don't trust yourself with even one drink, you aren't a mature and responsible adult and you can't be trusted to participate in the adult world. I don't trust you because you don't trust yourself. Grow up.

As for the people who have problems... There are a few alcoholics. There are also a few people who use guns to cause harm to themselves and others. Deal with those individuals as individuals and don't penalize the majority who are responsible and mentally healthy.

Oh... and
I also was active in having the BAC in Indiana lowered to .8.

That would actually be an increase. Standard BAC for LEGAL (not actual) intoxication is .08 in most states.
 
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