H.R. 990 Reciprocity

[Starpower]

U.S. Congressman Hostettler (R-In) has introduced a new bill of reciprocity for CCW called SAFE (Secure Access to Firearms Enhancement).
What it means is that if you have a CCW permit in your home state, your firearm can be carried in ALL jurisdictions, NATIONWIDE! We know for a fact that the gun-grabbers are going to come out in force to defeat this bill! Our only hope is to come out in force to support it. (I said, IN force, not With force! Let's all stay calm!)
This is the best shot we've had in a long, long time. Let's not blow it. Call, write, telegram, TALK!. Oh yeah, and send money! NOW IS TIME FOR ALL GOOD MEN TO COME TO THE AID OF THEIR COUNTRY!!

 

[medic_guns]

Not good!

That's all we need. Now, Democrats will have something else to add the AWB renewel to. Why doesn't everybody quit offering up new legislation until next year. That way, we have less of a chance of getting messed over.
Ric

 

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

What is the chance that this would make it realistically?

We have the 2A and the 14A on out side

They have "states rights"

I am really conflicted.




I think I'll go with my rights Screw the states.

 

[44Brent]

Support the bill

This bill will liberate states like New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, California, and Illinois.

 

[carpettbaggerr]

States rights don't apply here:

Article IV

Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

 

[Moparmike]

Subscribing...

I hope a legitimate arguement can be made for that. That would rock if I could get my CCW and carry 50states. Too bad that couldnt be on intra-national flights.

 

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

I started a thread on FF&C a while back. IIRC, no one has tried that in the courts. You first

 

[jnojr]

How would this bill help CA?

Let me know when they pass a reciprocity bill that says *all* CCWs are good nationwide, so I can send away for a Utah permit... :-D

 

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

If it passes, and you have a CCW from another state, then you are free to carry in the PDRK (and PDRNJ, PDRILLINOIS, etc.)

 

[PATH]

I would not hold my breath. There is much work to be done before something like this has a realistic chance of passing.

 

[whoami]

How would this bill help CA?

Let me know when they pass a reciprocity bill that says *all* CCWs are good nationwide, so I can send away for a Utah permit... :-D

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:1:./temp/~c108XoXHvq::

`Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof, a person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, and is--

`(1) carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of any State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm; or

`(2) otherwise entitled to carry a concealed firearm in and pursuant to the law of the State of the person's residence,

may carry in any State a concealed firearm in accordance with the terms of the license or with the laws of the State of the person's residence, subject to the laws of the State in which the firearm is carried concerning specific types of locations in which firearms may not be carried.'.

 

[Moparmike]

So a person from Vermont could just carry his DL and carry in all 50 states?

 

[BrokenPaw]

...may carry in any State a concealed firearm in accordance with the terms of the license or with the laws of the State of the person's residence, subject to the laws of the State in which the firearm is carried concerning specific types of locations in which firearms may not be carried.

This is bad text. Because all it sounds like a state would have to do is pass a law to the effect of, "Firearms may not be carried in public places". Boom. Done. Meaningless reciprocity.

Or if that's too non-specific, how about "within 100 feet of children" (to protect them, you see). Who can guarantee, when they're out in public, that they're not within 100 feet of a kid? No one. So again, the permit becomes meaningless.

Or am I off in the weeds again?

-BP

 

[Andrew Rothman]

It looks like it was stuck in committee LAST MAY. I'm guessing it's good and dead.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.00990:

And by the way, this bill would grant permit holders from state A the same right to carry in state B as the permit holders in state B. So carrying a shall-issue permit from Minnesota would let me carry in California like California may-issue permit holders.

Where the bill would do nothing is in no-issue states (NE, KS, IL, WI and DC).

Of course, I Am Not A Lawyer, but that's how I read it.