handguns in New Jersey

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I have a niece in new jersey that is interested in shooting, and wants to buy a handgun, anyone know what is required? permits? to transport in a car, what is legal(unloaded, cased, in locked trunk)any handguns not legal in New Jersey?
 
A good place to start is www.packing.org; they have info for all 50 states. Another place I would try would be a gun store in New Jersey. They should be up on the current laws, especially if there are certain guns that are not legal in NJ.

Sadly, New Jersey is one of the more restrictive states when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. :banghead:

Good luck.
 
You need to apply for a buying permit, and its only good for like 90 days if i remember correctly. Getting the permit takes forever, and expect to hear "Why do you want a gun?", "Do you really need a firearm?", "Who you planning on shooting?", etc. from the local PD before they get off there lazy ass and actually do the paperwork, so anywhere from 2-3 weeks to 6 months. Its a huge hassle, thats why i never went through with it, i waited until i moved to FL to buy a gun, here you walk in, pay the man, wait 3 days, and your good to go.
 
You go down to the local police dept in the town you live in. Ask for a hand gun permit. It takes about 2-3 months for the application to be approved. She will be finger printed at that time. I would recomend that she also apply for a firearm ID card at the same time. That will allow her to look at/ handle handguns at a gunshop in the future without having a handgun permit available. The fingerprinting cost about $50 and should be a one time investment but some depts may not save them and require re-printing upon future applications. The permits are I believe $2 each and are good for 90 days and some depts re-stamp then for another 90 days when the run out. I suggest you get the max of 6 permits allowed for the $12 because it takes a few months to re-apply again. I have NEVER heard of the dept asking "why do you want/need a gun and who are you gonna shoot".
As far as travelling, The gun has to be in a case(not holster), un-loaded and out of reach (aka: trunk). Kind of hard in a SUV. :banghead: And you can only have it with you driving to and from a shooting range, dealer, gunsmith, ect...
This should help with the illegal gun typs but it changes all the time so check with a dealer first-- http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/StateLaws.aspx?ST=NJ
 
They don't ask those questions anymore. First you go to local PD and get a permit application, fill it out, pay fee, get fingerprinted, and wait for a few months. After you get the permit, you have 90 days to make your purchase. As for transporting it to and from a range, you have to lock the cased gun in the trunk, with the ammo. If your car doesn't have a trunk, then you have to have the ammo, or gun in a LOCKED case. (either not both) New Jersey is a pain, but not as bad as everybody thinks. If your talking about CCW, forget it, nobody gets one of those, unless you have a judge as a friend.
 
GotGlock:
get a CCW. It's easy as hell and then no 3 day waits and it starts to be fun being pulled over for speeding tickets.
If you're a vet your DD-214 is the secret password.
BTW we have a great florida shooting board if you're not there yet

AFS
 
what if you buy from a private person?

Same deal, but the seller has to fill out the paper work on the permit and mail it to the proper authorities. Same with long guns, the seller has to fill out the transfer paper (available at police dept or gunshops)but he keeps it (does not return paperwork to anone) as a paper trail. Trust me, it is very easy to get a gun in NJ if you havent been in any trouble, but it does take time and you do have to jump through a "few hoops" in the begining.
 
all handgun purchases are done this way, even out of state purchases have to go thru an ffl. If you move here from another state, I believe you have to register handguns with the local PD but I'm not sure about that.
 
Are they still a state in United States I can't belive people would live in a place that denies you rights that way. Move to PA sounds like a real good idea.
 
If you move from a different state to NJ you do not have to register any of your firearms. There is no law requiring you to do so.

Also forget about ever getting a CCW in NJ, it's not going to happen unless you are married to a Judge.

I would suggest for any firearm owner in NJ to pick up a copy of Evan Nappan's excellent book on NJ Firearm Laws. Most gun shops carry them or you can get a copy from his web site.

Hey Rufus, I see we are almost neighbors. I'm in Forked River.
 
Tell her to move to PA.
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Normally I would argue for NJ people to stay away from PA, but if your a gun person(nut), come on in kid
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These guys nailed it. the jerk*ff, a$$h@le, good-fer-nuthin liberal New Jersey politicians and voters have "F'd" things up for law abiding gun owners in that state. My sister lives in Pennington, so that is the only time I enter that wretched, abysmal state. I don't even like going to the Jersey shore.

It is unbelievable how much easier it is to get a License to Carry here in PA, compared to NJ (as long as you don't live in Philly, which can take 6 months, and you don't want to live in that sh*thole anyway). Cost is $19, you have it in your hands 10 days after you apply for it here at the Bucks County courthouse, you don't need to own a gun to get a license to carry, and the sherriffs will tell you put down "self defense" as a reason to carry, even if you just want to go target shooting.

Good gunshops in N.J. are few and far between, so they charge you an arm & a leg. Ditto that for indoor public pistol ranges, although there are a few decent gun clubs over on the other side of the river. You need a permit to buy a gun in the first place, and none of the Wal-marts in N.J. sell ammo.
 
Reading through this thread all most made me sick. I CAN'T BELIEVE how long some of you have to wait (a few days is too long, but months?). This is asinine quite frankly, and it's terrible that us law abiding citizens are punished due to the poor actions of a few.

Luckily in my town, I just have to do the following at stores like Academy:

1)Walk in.
2)Point to the gun I want.
3)Fill out the yellow form.
4)Clerk makes the call.
5)Five minutes later, he getting the gun out of the main safe.
6)I do a function test to make sure all is well inside and out.
7)He packs it up, and I'm on my way...

All in all, it's like a 20 minute affair. However, this doesn't include the 45 minutes I spend looking into the glass case trying to make a decision; even though I knew what I wanted before walking in. I'm worse than a woman looking for a purse :evil:
 
Warmachine, yes it's very sad. What's even sadder is this all started 2 years before the 1968 Gun Control Act That's right, we have been putting up with this nonsense since 1966!!!! Everyone of our FECTLESS politicans elected since that time have done nothing but make things worse!!

Soon we will have "The Smart Gun Law" take effect and none of our pistol's will be grandfathered. I can't wait to get the hell out of this State. 5 more years for me unfortunetly. :mad:
 
Guys,
Its not really that bad. Once you get your FID(firearms ID card) you can buy as many Long guns as you want, any time you want. Yes there are alot on the list you cant have:

Algimec AGM1 type
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the:
"Street Sweeper" or "Striker 12", Armalite AR-180 type, Australian Automatic Arms SAR, Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms, Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms, Bushmaster Assault rifle. Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900, CETME G3, Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type, Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 seriesDaewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types, Demro TAC-1 carbine type, Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types, FAMAS MAS223 types, FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms, Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 Shotguns, G3SA type, Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1, Intratec TEC-9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms, M1 carbine type, M14S type, MAC10, MAC11, MAC11-9mm carbine type firearms, PJK M-68 carbine type, Plainfield Machine Co. Carbine, Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-1 4/5RF, SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types, SKS with detachable magazine type, Spectre Auto carbine type, Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type, Sterling MK-6, MK-7, and SAR types, Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms, USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun, Uzi type semi-automatic firearms, Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms, Weaver Arms Nighthawk

But, there is no waiting time. You can walk in, point to the gun, seller gets the gun for you, fills out the paperwork, calls NICS and you walk out with the gun PERIOD. And I Believe we are still able to get a .50BMG( just still looking for a place that we can shoot it)

I dont know if NICS has a max amount of guns you can buy at one time but I dont believe Jersey does. I bought 2 SKS's a 30/30 and a 22-250 all in one 1/2 hr trip to the dealer.

As for the hand guns, yes you have to get a permit for each gun, but you can file for 6 at a time. I believe you can go to the PD on monday file for 6 permits, then go a week later and file for 6 more then go the following monday and file for 6 more. It takes about a month for the rest after you get approved for your first permit(which takes about 2-3 months). When the permits arrive, I think you are allowed 1 handgun per day and there might also be a limited amount per month, not sure. but again, you walk into the gunstore, pick out the gun, the seller fills out the paper work, calls NICS and hands you the gun. NO WAITING PERIOD.

Yea it sucks, WE cant get alot of guns, but once you are approved it is easy. If you have never been to NJ, There are alot of idiots. I would not like the idea of these idiots running around with 50rnd mags on a fully automatic rifle. They get in enough trouble with the guns they are allowed to have. I live on the edge of a gravel pit and have to run out at least twice a month on the ATV to chase away some dumda$$ that is shooting in the pit towards my house. I know there must be stuff in the water here! :what:

Please be aware that I have not bought/sold any guns since 1999 so I am hoping that all this info is still correct. I havent heard from any dealers that anything is different than I wrote above but if anyone has heard, please feel free to correct me, just dont whip me to hard :evil: ---chris
 
A pistol in NJ? Ha!

If your niece feels like she's in that much danger, NJ is not the State
that's going to protect her. Unless she can afford to live in Princeton.
If she needs something for home def, then a shotgun or rifle would be
the way to go.

For those of you who live in "no paperwork" states when it comes to
handgun sales, keep in mind the responsibility is still on you not to
sell to a prohibited person or to someone from out of state. Other
than to an adult family member who lives in your state I would rather
create a paper trail before a handgun later floats across a state line....

It just makes life potentially less complicated in the future.
 
IIRC, there's no FTF handgun transfers in NJ. I'm pretty sure you have to use an FFL and have a PPP.

I've also never heard of a PPP being issued to someone who doesn't have a FID, although it's common enough for first time owners to get both @ the same time.

There is a box on the PPP application where you can enter the number of pistol purchase permits you want, and there is no statutory limit. Extraordinarily high numbers will bring you unwanted attention.

AFAIK, there are precisely TWO ways to lawfully obtain and posess handguns in NJ without a paper trail: Inherit them, or move in from out of state with them.

The typical delay is 3-4 months, although some places caugh them up in 4-6 weeks for repeat customers. Delays over a year are not unheard of, I waited 10 months for my first one.



I occassionally run into folks who assert that NJ "isn't that bad".

I mean no offense, but COMPARED TO WHAT? Britain? Japan?

Gunowners are institutionally held in suspicion and contempt in that state, and I suspect that those who don't chafe don't find it all that offensive because that's what they grew up with, and never experienced anything else.

Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone. NJ is like that. Immersion in whatever anti freedom toxic crap that state spews really distorts one's perspective.


Bottom line: The state of NJ does not trust its law abiding citizens to select, obtain, posess, or publicly bear arms on their own initiative and prerogative, without the intense scrutiny and oversight of the state.

If you've ever known it any other way, how can you not find it offensive as hell?
 
FTF Ttransfers of handguns in NJ are perfectly legal. There is also no legal limit to the amount of purchase permits you can obtain either. Buying two or more handguns in the same day warrents paperwork to the BATF.
You can shoot a .50BMG at Ft. Dix on the civlian range.

All the rifles Rufus listed fall under the NJ AWB and are illegal to own. However new production modified receivers are legal if 922r compliant and in post=ban configuration. Example, if I have a Colt AR15, that's illegal because the receiver is stamped AR15. But I can buy a Colt Sporter rifle and be legal. The difference is the Colt Sporter's receiver isn't stamped AR15 and it can't have a flash hider or bayonet lug or a folding / collapsing stock. I can however have a muzzle brake and have 30 round mags but they must be blocked to 15 rounds.

Geekwitha.45 is correct. Not bad my ass. It sucks BIG time if your a NJ gun owner. All these silly gun laws don't stop one bit of crime. They are feel good laws only .All they do is limit the LEGAL gun owner from buying different models of guns. I shouldn't have to get a permit for each pistol I want to buy and why the hell do I need a NJ firearms ID card to buy a rifle when I have to sumbit to a NIC's check when I buy one anyway????

And yeah, I am a law abiding citizen on NJ, so why can I own a full auto machine gun???? NJ is truely GUN OWNER HELL!!!! I'm a gun owner for the last 32 years living in this state.

Not bad, give me friggin break already. That kind of thinking got us in this situtuation in the first place. What are you going to do with your pistols after the Smart Gun Law kicks in??????

Did you know that Corzine is floating the idea to various law enforcement agency's about NJ becoming the first "gun free" state in the country??

I have to get out of here already!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MAUSER88 ,
will you please steer me to site that has the Smart gun Law.
I did a search on the internet and only came up with this: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200301\CUL20030113c.html which basically says that the casings will be "finger printed"
I dont have a problem with this. I have no intention of using mine in a crime so who cares if they have a shell copy. I believe if any of my guns were stolen and used in a crime, they would be easier to trace where they were stolen from. Sombody please tell me how this can be a problem. Are you affraid to let anyone know you have a gun? even the feds? I hope not 'cause the feds already know through NICS. there is no regerstration fee(YET) like on a vehicle but no one is complaining about registering a vehicle.
It does not say that they are going to take the guns without smart tech away. It also says that the law will only go into effect 3 years after a proven technology is brought to market.
Does anyone believe there will be a 100% reliable smart gun? I dont. Thats why I am not going to worry about this law. I would also like to know if anyone has true figures on the # of legal guns in the state of NJ. There are alot more than anyone thinks. I have yet to meet anyone in person that is totally against them. But I do live out in the sticks.When the Jersey AWB went into effect, they gave you a choice: register the gun and pay a one time tax or render the gun inactive by removing the firing pin
I dont think they are going to take any of the guns from NJ residents in the near or far future. There are just to many. But again this is only my opinion.
These are the laws, they aint gettin better so get used to it. I dont cry about this stuff, I learned to adapt, improvise and overcome.
 
I'ts more work than in the other 49...

But not impossible if you play by the rules :barf:


First she will need to go down to her local PD.

She will need to file for the Firearms Identification Card,
and a Handgun Purchasers Permit. You must must have
both! She will need a Money order for 49.00 made payable
to the State Police, and Usually a check for 12 bucks to
the Local PD. She will then be fingerprinted, It WILL take
90 days!!! The Law in NJ says they have 30 days, but
it's an unenforceable law since the S.P. do the background check
the Old way (Paper Request), and the local P.D. chiefs have
routinely refused to issue permits with out the S.P.'s
check in hand. The kicker is you still have to wait the 3days
and pay for the NICS fees at the dealer.


Also never call and ask the PD when the permit will be in
they will shuffle you to the bottom of the pile and It'll take
longer. (Several Local Leo friends have confirmed this)

Welcome to the great Garden State :barf: :barf: :barf:
 
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?ID=102

http://www.gunweek.com/2005/smart0110.html

http://www.evannappen.com/lawupdate1gunbook/

Read the above articles and tell me again you don't believe "They are coming for your guns".

I wasn't whineing, I was merely stating facts. Pull you head out of the sand. Back in 89 I thought like you did.I said thet NJAWB will never pass. Well guess what, I was dead wrong. It passed and I had to give up 22 rifles that fit the ban or become a criminal overnight. It made ZERO sense to me to register them as inoporable. What would I do with them? I bought them to shoot, not be wall hangers!! Democrat's want NO PRIVATE GUNOWNERSHIP of firearms in NJ. Make no mistake about it. And Democrats ALWAYS get what they want in NJ. :banghead:
 
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