Has anyone ever had a jam with a 9mm Glock?
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longeyes
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G26 & G19: 7 malfs in total of 8186 rds. Most of these were early on.
10,000 rounds as of this weekend and ZERO failures
As of this weekend, my G17 has had slightly over 10,000 rounds through it, and of all types of ammo. I have never experienced any form of failures...period!
In fact, one day, I was at the range, thinking of such posts, and people commenting that, "...any gun will fail if you limp wrist it." Okay, so I tried to make it fail. I held it just tight enough so that it would not fall out of my hand to the concrete floor. I emptied 18 rounds and had no failures.
I have always been told that it is due to Glock's ramped barrel, and the fact that the recoil spring is strong. In closing, I did a torture test on this G17 when it was new. I went 3,000+ rounds with never a cleaning, just adding oil from time-to-time. Again, no failures. I finally decided that it was simply time to clean it.
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As of this weekend, my G17 has had slightly over 10,000 rounds through it, and of all types of ammo. I have never experienced any form of failures...period!
In fact, one day, I was at the range, thinking of such posts, and people commenting that, "...any gun will fail if you limp wrist it." Okay, so I tried to make it fail. I held it just tight enough so that it would not fall out of my hand to the concrete floor. I emptied 18 rounds and had no failures.
I have always been told that it is due to Glock's ramped barrel, and the fact that the recoil spring is strong. In closing, I did a torture test on this G17 when it was new. I went 3,000+ rounds with never a cleaning, just adding oil from time-to-time. Again, no failures. I finally decided that it was simply time to clean it.
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Cousin Mike
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Never owned a Glock. Shot a friends G21C quite a few times, with no problems. Rented a G17 at a range once, and the extractor must have been completely broken. It failed to eject almost every round for a full magazine. Went and got the range officer, told him what was going on, and he didn't seem to believe it. He came to my lane, took a shot, and had an FTE. He looked at the gun, and said,
"Hmmm. That wasn't supposed to happen."
He brought back another G17 and we had no problems for several-hundred rounds. I think my experience was a probably a pretty unique one.
"Hmmm. That wasn't supposed to happen."
He brought back another G17 and we had no problems for several-hundred rounds. I think my experience was a probably a pretty unique one.
GoRon
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Glocks choke like every other gun, just not nearly as often.
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Most freguent malfunction with sub/gun is a type #2 (stovepipe) and normally caused by the operator failing to utilize an aggressive enough grip, thus causing the stoppage.
Most freguent malfunction with sub/gun is a type #2 (stovepipe) and normally caused by the operator failing to utilize an aggressive enough grip, thus causing the stoppage.
longeyes
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I didn't mention the G17 I own that has never jammed in nearly a thousand rounds. I also own a G30 with about three thousand rounds through it: no jams.
The G19 may have that barrel-mag follower problem: Older 10-rd mags that sometimes have trouble with certain hollow points.
The G19 may have that barrel-mag follower problem: Older 10-rd mags that sometimes have trouble with certain hollow points.
I had one from 91 to 94 that I put about 8000 rounds through. I can't remember one single malfunction. But, I have a Sig P226 that I have put twice that many through, and the only time it ever malfunctioned was with a bad case of ammo that had everyone on the line's guns choking.
High quality semi-automatic pistols have gotten to the point where they really shouldn't ever jam unless there is an intervening problem like a dirty gun, or bad ammo.
High quality semi-automatic pistols have gotten to the point where they really shouldn't ever jam unless there is an intervening problem like a dirty gun, or bad ammo.
Vitamin G
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God has a sense of humor...
The only time I saw a glock jam (on factory ammo) was about 30 seconds after the guy with the G17 was talking smack on how unreliable 1911's are and are prone to jams. It was a failure to feed.
Don't get me started on the overcrimp of some of my 1st 10mm loads and my glock 20...
The only time I saw a glock jam (on factory ammo) was about 30 seconds after the guy with the G17 was talking smack on how unreliable 1911's are and are prone to jams. It was a failure to feed.
Don't get me started on the overcrimp of some of my 1st 10mm loads and my glock 20...
Double Naught Spy
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Of course Glocks malfunction. The are made by humans. Humans have failed to do everything perfectly and manufacturing is one of those things.
One of the best places to see guns fail is during a match and it is at that time people can't make excuses about how their guns never malfunction. I have learned over the years that there are very few guns that are truly free of any malfunctions. I am not casting dispersions here, but simply noting that I have seen several previous perfect guns mysteriously malfunction for the first time after thousands of rounds. Come to find out from some folks, the guns have always worked perfectly, but there was a spring problem, mag problem, ammo problem, or a part broke, but the gun has never malfunctioned. What?
Check here for the 2004 Glock v. 1911 results. http://www.tdsa.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=30;t=4
I was in the match. The first gun to malfunction was a Glock in 9mm. It fired one shot and failed to properly feed the second round. The first gun to die during the match was a Glock. I enjoyed this a great deal as the Glockers were giving the 1911 guys garbage because the first gun to fail during the previous year’s match was a 1911 at something like 46 rounds. Needless to say, the Glock guys stopped thumping their chests with these developments. These facets are not reflected in the results, but the results do show that Glocks do in fact malfunction.
With that said, Glocks are fine guns, but know they are not perfect, not even in 9mm.
One of the best places to see guns fail is during a match and it is at that time people can't make excuses about how their guns never malfunction. I have learned over the years that there are very few guns that are truly free of any malfunctions. I am not casting dispersions here, but simply noting that I have seen several previous perfect guns mysteriously malfunction for the first time after thousands of rounds. Come to find out from some folks, the guns have always worked perfectly, but there was a spring problem, mag problem, ammo problem, or a part broke, but the gun has never malfunctioned. What?
Check here for the 2004 Glock v. 1911 results. http://www.tdsa.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=30;t=4
I was in the match. The first gun to malfunction was a Glock in 9mm. It fired one shot and failed to properly feed the second round. The first gun to die during the match was a Glock. I enjoyed this a great deal as the Glockers were giving the 1911 guys garbage because the first gun to fail during the previous year’s match was a 1911 at something like 46 rounds. Needless to say, the Glock guys stopped thumping their chests with these developments. These facets are not reflected in the results, but the results do show that Glocks do in fact malfunction.
With that said, Glocks are fine guns, but know they are not perfect, not even in 9mm.
Not yet in several thousand of rounds through four pistols.
I have had accuracy issues involving poorly regulated sights, bad steel replacement guide rods, and shock buffers but I have yet to experience a jam.
My Model 34 even continued to function with a broken plastic guide rod.
I have had accuracy issues involving poorly regulated sights, bad steel replacement guide rods, and shock buffers but I have yet to experience a jam.
My Model 34 even continued to function with a broken plastic guide rod.
I've shot plenty of 1911-A1 pistols and none of them ever jammed. I've shot several Glocks and only encountered jams with the 9mms. The venerable 1911 which is a real man's pistol proved more reliable. Just goes to show that the best design computer is the one between your ears
surfinUSA
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My glocks have never malfunctioned, but then neither has my Beretta 92 fs or my S&W 3913.
Tom Servo
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It's funny...I took a 1911 to the range with a friend a few weeks back. He was foaming at the mouth about the greatness that is Gaston Glock's Gift to Mankind. After two magazines, the ejector broke. My Kimber experienced no stoppages in the ~300 rounds we put through it that afternoon.
Sorry, I just found it ironic
The Glock is a machine, like any other. Take care of it and feed it the right ammo, and it's hugely unlikely you'll have a problem.
Abuse it, avoid cleaning it, and feed it your friend's uncle's homemade "super kitchen-table" reloads, and the chances of problems go up.
Most of the failures I've seen with Glocks have been in the hands of inexperienced shooters who did something really stupid to/with the gun, like one of the above. The other thing I've noticed is that over-lubing them seems to create FTF's.
In the hands of an experienced shooter who took care of the gun, I can't recall ever having seen a malfunction.
Sorry, I just found it ironic
The Glock is a machine, like any other. Take care of it and feed it the right ammo, and it's hugely unlikely you'll have a problem.
Abuse it, avoid cleaning it, and feed it your friend's uncle's homemade "super kitchen-table" reloads, and the chances of problems go up.
Most of the failures I've seen with Glocks have been in the hands of inexperienced shooters who did something really stupid to/with the gun, like one of the above. The other thing I've noticed is that over-lubing them seems to create FTF's.
In the hands of an experienced shooter who took care of the gun, I can't recall ever having seen a malfunction.
possum
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I have only 800rds through mt glock 19, which was my dad's and he had about 500 -600rds never caused him or me a single issue. that is with reloads, winchester, umc, blaser brass, and american eagle ammo.
Snarlingiron
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Glock 19...7000+ rounds. 2 stovepipes (very early), 2 ftf's. Caused by a magazine with some foreign object rattling around inside it. I dismantled the magazine, and never did find what it was. It apparently fell out when I opened up the magazine. Since I use the drop the magazine reload technique, I suspect it was a stone, or maybe something rattling around the range bag like maybe a dime. I have shot and owned a lot of semi-autos, and in my experience nothing comes close to the Glock in reliability. Do they malfunction? sure they do. Do they do it less, and with far less maintenance than just about anything else? sure they do. Will a lot of people gleefully report every single problem they ever have along with the usual, "see, I told you they weren't all they were cracked up to be"? sure they will.
I agree, they aren't perfect, but they work damn good, and they last a long time.
I agree, they aren't perfect, but they work damn good, and they last a long time.
10-Ring
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A buddy tried using G22 mags in his 19...he wanted to get a little more capacity. I think it was the mag swelling w/ the rounds, but still, he had several feed issues. After that range session, he went back to the G19 mags and has had no problems.
gudel
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Never with my G17.
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I never had a jam with my 17, I just never trusted it to work. It locked up within the first 200 rounds and would not allow the trigger to be pulled. I sent it back, and it did the same exact thing a short while later. Sent it back again and this time they replaced everything, including the slide, which they said was cracked. At that point I got rid of it and my two 19's and havent bothered with them since.
longeyes
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I have about eight thousand rounds (total) through two 1911s (Kimber, Sistema). I will tell you this: I've had substantially more malfs from the two 1911s than from my Glocks. Deus vult.
I have about eight thousand rounds (total) through two 1911s (Kimber, Sistema). I will tell you this: I've had substantially more malfs from the two 1911s than from my Glocks. Deus vult.
Yes. Keep in kind, ANY gun can malfunction. It's a mechanical device assembled by humans so yeah, it's prone to have a malfunction eventually. Also, just bcuase a gun has a malfunction, odesn't mean it's the fault of the gun. Could be the fualt of the ammo, the shooter (limp wristing) or could be the gun itself be it dirty, gummed up or just have a broken part. AGlock or not, ANY gun can and will malfunction.
Bartholomew Roberts
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As of today, I have 6,160 rounds through a Glock 26 with 2 stoppages total. Both of the malfunctions were hard primers that the striker-fired Glock wasn't able to detonate first-time through; but that it fired successfully the second time through. No jams.
The only other thing I've seen is the Glock 34 with the long slide and lighter 9mm recoil can be susceptible to stovepipes if the user limpwrists the pistol. However I consider that more of a user error than something you can blame on the pistol. The Glock 35 in .40 though didn't have the same problem for the same shooter just because it had a little more oomph behind it.
The only other thing I've seen is the Glock 34 with the long slide and lighter 9mm recoil can be susceptible to stovepipes if the user limpwrists the pistol. However I consider that more of a user error than something you can blame on the pistol. The Glock 35 in .40 though didn't have the same problem for the same shooter just because it had a little more oomph behind it.
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