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Has anyone (or 'why hasn't anyone') applied a Glock or DAO trigger to a long gun?

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I was just thinking about it. I store my long guns "cruiser ready". Is there any reason why the long gun has to be ready to go when the round is chambered, as opposed to when the trigger is pulled? Personally, it would make a lot of sense on the user side of things to have something like this on the market, especially to promote similar MOA for someone who uses this type of trigger.

But, I don't have much understanding of what happens inside the guns to make them go boom (I am about as good with mechanical tasks as I'm sure you are with shooting lightning from your fingertips), so if there is a mechanical reason why this wouldn't work, I'd like to know.
 
I can't remember if it was Remington or Mossberg but someone made a shotgun a few years ago with a DAO trigger. It didn't sell. Long guns are used for longer ranges and a DA trigger inhibits acucrate shooting .
 
Hmm...well the Glock style trigger is typicall a lot better than a DAO trigger. Basically wondering as a lefty, because if there's no safety selector, it makes it more ambi by default.
 
Savage has something like it but it's a safety device rather than a spring loaded DA or safe action trigger.

A true DA trigger I don't think has ever been on any modern rifle I can think of. It adds complexity and downgrades accuracy.
 
For my applications, Dr. Rob, I don't care if I'm off by an MOA. That's like 0.03 inches at my expected distance. Do you have a link to their DA option?
 
Yes, but for others, any degradation in accuracy is unacceptable and the introduction of a DAO or "safe action" doesn't add enough to the safety of a long gun to be worth the tradeoff.
 
the introduction of a DAO or "safe action" doesn't add enough to the safety of a long gun to be worth the tradeoff.
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Why is that? The addition of safety part, I mean.

I understand that a long gun like this wouldn't be for everyone's purposes, but what gun is good for everyone's purposes? Just because the .223 will work beyond 300 yards doesn't mean that everyone who buys a .223 rifle is planning on using it beyond 30.
 
Mossberg made a 590DA, which if memory serves me was a double action shotgun. They pop up on auction sights at times.
 
Your expected range is 3 yards?
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Ish. I was rounding down from 0.03333333 (you get the picture). My long guns are for home defense and range time (range time for fun/practice/training). At most, in my condo, I might be able to get about 10 yards. Even still, that's 0.1"
 
Nothing I would be interested in, but if it worked and proved useful, it would sell. So far, no joy.
 
If I remember right, the Sites Spectre submachinegun from Italy had a double action trigger with a decocker.

It also had a quad-stack magazine.
 
Almost without exception, tactical shotguns are adopted from the same models of sporting shotguns used for hunting, trap, skeet, etc.

A Glock trigger pull on a sporting shotgun would be a disaster if you wanted to hit anything with it.

rc
 
They could do something a lot lighter and crisper than a Glock stock trigger and keep the Glock safety on it.
 
Skribs said:
Is there any reason why the long gun has to be ready to go when the round is chambered, as opposed to when the trigger is pulled?
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Um, what's the difference? A Glock is ready to go when a round is chambered and an AR with a round chambered won't do anything unless the trigger is pulled.

The MOA for a typical semi auto rifle is the same as a striker fired pistol anyways. Load magazine, squeeze trigger until slide/bolt locks open on the last shot. Replace magazine, activate slide/bolt release, resume trigger squeezing.
 
"and keep the Glock safety on it"

They'd still put a real safety on the gun, so why bother with a trigger safety.

I'm still trying to figure out what the problem is you're trying to solve. And why you'd need a DA trigger on a long gun. I guess I just don't get it.

With either style of trigger, if there's a round in the chamber all it takes to fire it is a pull of the trigger.

John
 
Um, what's the difference? A Glock is ready to go when a round is chambered and an AR with a round chambered won't do anything unless the trigger is pulled.
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A Glock's striker is only half ready to go when the round is chambered.

They'd still put a real safety on the gun, so why bother with a trigger safety.
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Why would they still put a real safety on the gun?

The problem I'm trying to solve is that there is no need for a manual safety on a long gun, but for some reason every long gun seems to be designed with one. If it's not needed for a pistol, it's not needed for a rifle/shotgun. Why should the pistol be any different?

I keep my long guns "cruiser ready" so I don't have to deal with a safety, especially a right-hand style safety (depending on the shotgun, it can be a real pain for lefties). This would fix that issue.
 
My wife actually has the Judge revolver/carbine pictured a few posts above. She bought it primarily as a snake gun but with my .45 Colt reloads it will reliably hit an 8" steel plate at 50 yards. I was surprised. This is more than adequit for home defence. She keeps it by her side of the bed now.
 
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I handled one of those a ways back and was really impressed how well it felt/shouldered.
I'm an old (kinda) revolver guy though.
 
Ok putting it another way. Savage created something called the Accutrigger:

http://savagearms.com/accuracy/accutrigger/

This is an added device that allows for a very light trigger with an additional safety. Now I still would not store a rifle with that feature 'cruiser ready' or walk around in the woods with the safety off.

Using a traditional rifle.. semi auto or otherwise while engaging targets, moving between them you can put the safety on or not as you move.. just keep your finger off the trigger. When you're done, put it back on.

Militaries tend to want a rifle with a positive safety that can be seen visually at a glance.
 
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Putting a safety on the trigger is sort of like putting the combination on the door of a safe.
I think Glocks are potentially dangerous. One of my buddies KILLED a guy standing behind him when the draw string on his wind breaker got hung up in the trigger guard while reholstering.
 
both will go off with about 5-7# or so of force on the trigger, so what's the difference?
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The difference is that absent a trigger pull, the Glock will not fire.
 
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