Have you paid your "Citizenship Dues?"
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I call it "protection money".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket
Does this sound familiar at all?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket
Does this sound familiar at all?
goalie
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I paid with 4 years in the corps.
You did mean "paid" in terms of service ala Heinlen, right???
You did mean "paid" in terms of service ala Heinlen, right???
PeteRR
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I always waited until the last to file when I owed money. Now that I travel for work and get a decent amount of my own money back, I file as soon as humanly possible.
XLMiguel
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Cashflow Management, whudda concept!
If I owe, I send it to arrive on the day due. If I'm owed, I maximize deductions and file at earliest opportunity. Quicken/TurboTax is a wonderful tool -
If I owe, I send it to arrive on the day due. If I'm owed, I maximize deductions and file at earliest opportunity. Quicken/TurboTax is a wonderful tool -
Why would anyone with any sense send in money to the government before you absolutely have to. They already rip us off withholding taxes from our checks. They get to use that money interest free. FDR screwed us again (just one of many times) when he declared a 5% Victory tax to pay for WW11. And to make dang well sure the people would pay(he knew they probably would not) we got withholding. Of coarse the tax and withholding was such a wonderful thing to grow a welfare liberal State it never was repealled. Sound familiar. Don't forget we are still paying for the Spanish Amercian War with a excise tax on our phone bills. Yea they just squeeze more and more out of us and we love it. Gotta keep paying those entitlements for the downtrodden and poor so they can stay there and out of the ellites hair.
Thanks to you folks who've served in the military...
I can vote, and do so, every time the polls are open. Whether it's for the city mayor, the President, or just some little local tax for road improvement, I'm there.
Thanks to you vets, I'm just one small voice trying to do my part.
K
I can vote, and do so, every time the polls are open. Whether it's for the city mayor, the President, or just some little local tax for road improvement, I'm there.
Thanks to you vets, I'm just one small voice trying to do my part.
K
Desertdog
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I feel like my wife and I are being raped 4 times a year with estimated taxes. At the end of the year, I try to hit a zero balance or get a very small amount back.
The_Antibubba
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I'm pretty pleased-my payout this year was about $160 (Not taking into consideration the money extorted from me every payday). I simply cannot understand the people who want the refund, like they've won a prize.
xd9fan
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FXR.......What does thanking someone for militery service have to do with the statement: Have you paid your "Citizenship Dues?"
DigitalWarrior
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Wikipedia Article corrected
See also corrected
See also corrected
cliffstanc
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My dream is no witholding allowed (not for Fed, FICA, state, nothin') and no estimated tax payments either (so no "refunds"). All taxes owed are due in one lump sum on Tax Day - which is moved to November 1st.
Let's see how voters writing one big check just before the elections affects the political landscape!
- Cliff
Let's see how voters writing one big check just before the elections affects the political landscape!
- Cliff
Ivy Mike
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For the first time ever, I managed to wind up right at $0
I don't owe and am not owed.
Then again, I paid for all sorts of welfare and social programs and never took advantage of them. I'm starting to think that if these things are out there, I may as well benefit from em.
I don't owe and am not owed.
Then again, I paid for all sorts of welfare and social programs and never took advantage of them. I'm starting to think that if these things are out there, I may as well benefit from em.
ravinraven
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I wish...
...that there was a window just to the left of the pay window where you went and paid your withholding every time you got paid. That would give people a handle on what the gov't is actually costing them. This "income tax refund" is like the clown advertising the money you'll save by buying whatever from him.
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...that there was a window just to the left of the pay window where you went and paid your withholding every time you got paid. That would give people a handle on what the gov't is actually costing them. This "income tax refund" is like the clown advertising the money you'll save by buying whatever from him.
rr
El Tejon
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I don't know yet. It's always a matter of debate for the IRS and my accountant.
JohnBT
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Income tax, yes.
Real estate tax of $3300, not yet.
My 84-y-old father sold an investment in 2005. Somehow (we think the broker messed up) the IRS decided the entire check he received was earnings and sent him a bill for more than $10,000. This was quite a surprise to a man who has never ever had a problem doing his own tax returns and quarterly payments.
John
Real estate tax of $3300, not yet.
My 84-y-old father sold an investment in 2005. Somehow (we think the broker messed up) the IRS decided the entire check he received was earnings and sent him a bill for more than $10,000. This was quite a surprise to a man who has never ever had a problem doing his own tax returns and quarterly payments.
John
Dave P
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Spend-Crazy Feds
Here is a very interesting article on taxes and what you really pay:
Evans On The Economy -- Tax Cheats Snub Spend-Crazy Feds
There would have been no federal budget deficit last year had tax cheaters paid all they owed.
Saturday, April 01, 2006
By Michael K. Evans
Soon it will be everyone's favorite day -- April 15th. How much will you owe? Federal income taxes are only the beginning. Last year, federal income taxes totaled $932 billion, or about $6,650 per employee. But people paid $1.286 trillion in other federal taxes, mostly Social Security taxes. And -- keep those calculators going -- the state and local tax bill totaled $1.14 trillion.
Directly or indirectly, employees and proprietors paid this entire bill of $3.358 trillion, or almost $24,000 per employee. Total compensation earned by employees and individual proprietors last year was about $8.2 trillion, so, by my calculation, this means 40% of your income went to various government agencies.
And where did that 40% of your income go? Most of it, if you're under 65 and working at a regular job, went to the less fortunate. The numbers are stunning. Federal expenditures were $2.55 trillion, with $495 billion going for national defense and another $272 billion going for purchased goods and wages paid. At the same time some $1.69 trillion was transferred to someone else -- well, actually a lot of someone elses. That's some federal case.
http://www.industryweek.com/PrintArticle.aspx?ArticleID=11678
Here is a very interesting article on taxes and what you really pay:
Evans On The Economy -- Tax Cheats Snub Spend-Crazy Feds
There would have been no federal budget deficit last year had tax cheaters paid all they owed.
Saturday, April 01, 2006
By Michael K. Evans
Soon it will be everyone's favorite day -- April 15th. How much will you owe? Federal income taxes are only the beginning. Last year, federal income taxes totaled $932 billion, or about $6,650 per employee. But people paid $1.286 trillion in other federal taxes, mostly Social Security taxes. And -- keep those calculators going -- the state and local tax bill totaled $1.14 trillion.
Directly or indirectly, employees and proprietors paid this entire bill of $3.358 trillion, or almost $24,000 per employee. Total compensation earned by employees and individual proprietors last year was about $8.2 trillion, so, by my calculation, this means 40% of your income went to various government agencies.
And where did that 40% of your income go? Most of it, if you're under 65 and working at a regular job, went to the less fortunate. The numbers are stunning. Federal expenditures were $2.55 trillion, with $495 billion going for national defense and another $272 billion going for purchased goods and wages paid. At the same time some $1.69 trillion was transferred to someone else -- well, actually a lot of someone elses. That's some federal case.
http://www.industryweek.com/PrintArticle.aspx?ArticleID=11678
armoredman
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And, on the other side, AZ lawmakers are proposing an $800 million....wait for it....tax CUT. Elimination of property tax, AKA Marxist rent, and 20% decrease in income tax, with the STATED goal of being elimination of income tax altogether...
I love this state.
I wish the Feds got it, too....
I love this state.
I wish the Feds got it, too....
AirForceShooter
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to quote Ben Franklin, who I consider the true father of our country:
"Taxes are the price of a civilized society"
he also said "the ability to tax the ability to destroy".
Ben had it together.
AFS
"Taxes are the price of a civilized society"
he also said "the ability to tax the ability to destroy".
Ben had it together.
AFS
Gadsden
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I sold a house this year. Trust me, I got raped good and hard. I once saw a quote by someone about taxes. "I'm proud to pay taxes in America, but I would be just as proud for half as much tax."
stevelyn
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Just got mine done.
I'm protesting by not contributing to the Presidential Campaign Fund. They can kiss my arse.
I'll continue to refuse checking that little block until the day they decide that candidates from other parties should have equal access to it too, rather than being shut out and it all going to the Two-Peas-In-A-Pod Party Syndicate
that it normally gets funneled off into.
:banghead: 
I'm protesting by not contributing to the Presidential Campaign Fund. They can kiss my arse.
I'll continue to refuse checking that little block until the day they decide that candidates from other parties should have equal access to it too, rather than being shut out and it all going to the Two-Peas-In-A-Pod Party Syndicate
that it normally gets funneled off into. :banghead: Turkey Creek
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Ahh Yes- My favorite is the Social Security Taxes that I get to pay double for being self employed- Apparently I am an employer and an employee all at the same time- What a Deal!- On the good side, all be it a small good side, I get to start feeding at the trough in a little over a year when I turn 62- Of course I'll have to live to the age of Methusula to ever break even- Is this a great country or what
xd9fan
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Yeah Turkey that great 0.86% return on your "investment" God get me a dog bond fund and I can 5-bagger this return.
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