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Heckler & Koch HK4

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Telemekhos, Dec 3, 2004.

  1. Telemekhos

    Telemekhos Member

    just curious if anyone knows where i can get an excellent condition HK4 with at least the .380 (9mm kurtz) barrel. This is an amazing gun, cant believe they stopped making it and would be an awesome concealed weap. Please advise... Ive looked on gunbroker.com etc. and only see some beat up stuff or the commemerative edition which would be great if it didnt have the gold plate on it and trigger.
  2. isp2605

    isp2605 Well-Known Member

    If you find 2, particularly with all 4 caliber conversions, let me know. I'll take the other one.
  3. usp_fan

    usp_fan Well-Known Member

    I believe H&R or another company imported these under their name for a while. Do a little research over on HKpro.com. You may be able to find one under a different name.

    I agree these are neat pistols. A shop up here had one several years ago. I was in school and broke at the time...

    Good luck,

  4. 10-Ring

    10-Ring Well-Known Member

    :cool: :cool: Yup, I love mine! First found one w/ 380 & 22 barrels (plus seller taught me how to convert it from center fire to rim fire :cool: ) then backed into a deal for the 25 & 32 barrels...it's ALL good :cool: :cool:

    Good luck on your quest! ;)
  5. Onmilo

    Onmilo Well-Known Member

    Count me as one who is looking for a .32acp version.
    Of course I wouldn't complain if a .22 conversion was part of the deal.
  6. Morgan

    Morgan Well-Known Member

    Onmilo -

    The Gun Room in Denver (Lakewood) has one with the .32 and .22.

    I didn't look close enough, so I don't know the condition or price - but I'll find out for you if you like...
  7. Onmilo

    Onmilo Well-Known Member

    Morgan, do that if you would please.
    If they will ship to a dealer in Illinois they may have a sale.
  8. Jehzsa

    Jehzsa Well-Known Member

  9. Morgan

    Morgan Well-Known Member

    Onmilo, they'll certainly ship.

    I'll go by on Monday and let you know the details - I guess I'm destined to buy another nice little beast they've got (you bastards keep dragging me back... ;) ).
  10. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    I've read complaints about the old HK4 on TFL... it's BIG for a .380.

    But I'll agree it certainly looks cool.
  11. Telemekhos

    Telemekhos Member

    I emailed the person at gunbroker as well, but havent gotten a response... i would love a NIB model.
  12. LWCmdr45

    LWCmdr45 Well-Known Member

    I have owned both the H&K-marked and H&R-marked HK-4 pistols. (Both were stolen, along with quite a few other pistols, in a burglary some years ago.) As I'm not a big fan of the .380 cartridge for SD usage, I found them most useful as a super-lightweight kit gun when fit with the .22 conversion kit. I believe it's biggest "draw" was for use in jurisdictions where one was limited in the number of guns (i.e., frames) one might possess.

    One thing to be wary of: check the firing pin. Due to the convertible nature of the design, the firing pin is more susceptible to breakage than comparable designs with standard firing pins, especialy if it's been dry fired a lot. And, since parts are virtually unobtainable from the manufacturer, fitting a replacement is a make-it-yourself or gunsmith's job.

  13. Onmilo

    Onmilo Well-Known Member

    Many years ago our shop sold quite a few of these guns.
    Couple weeks back the owner and I were reflecting on the fact that for all the HK4s we sold, none have ever come back in trade but people have come in to buy spare magazines from time to time.
    We figure they are either very, very good guns that the owners don't want to part with or the guns self destructed years ago!

    Regardless, I would still like to have one for my personal collection.
    It is one of those, " I shoulda bought one of those back when,,," stories.
  14. TRK2AJK

    TRK2AJK Well-Known Member

    local dealer had a used, no box, hk4 in the 299 price range. email fo dealer.
  15. Morgan

    Morgan Well-Known Member

    Onmilo - I dropped by The Gun Room of Lakewood, CO today.

    The HK4 is .32 and .22, with the .32 currently installed. It looks to be in fine shape, the blueing nearly 100%. The grips, oddly, have some dings.

    It comes with the original box, as well.

    The kicker - asking is $495! Seems a bit high, but if you really want it... They're usually a bit flexible, however. If you're intersested, ring on 303-237-1300 or e-mail Denvergunroom@aol.com.

    Neat little gun. I like how the slide release works, and it seems to be well-built.
  16. Onmilo

    Onmilo Well-Known Member

    Thank you Morgan.
    That is a bit rich but I will see what they might do, I have an F.F.L.
    Did you see any additional magazines besides one for each caliber that may be included with the gun?
    The slide release works when you sling shot the slide.
    If you want to drop the slide on an empty magazine you withdraw the magazine just a bit then pull back the slide and let it down slowly.
  17. Intel6

    Intel6 Well-Known Member

    I had been wanting one of these for years but could never find one at a reasonable price. When I was stationed in Germany with Army in the early 90's I discovered that you could still buy a brand NIB with all 4 caliber's. They were made back in the 70's but they still had them on distributor's shelves. Needless to say I cam back with 2 complete sets.

    Neal in AZ
  18. G95

    G95 Well-Known Member

    what are these going for these days?
  19. Onmilo

    Onmilo Well-Known Member

    Wow a thread from the distant past!
    I am still looking for a .32, past up a .380 about a year and a half ago for $400.00

    I have two .32 acp magazines for one of these pistols just waiting along with me.
  20. G95

    G95 Well-Known Member

    do you think a like new .32 specimen with box and all is worth $550? the only wear i can find are some tiny scratches on the bottom edge of the right grip, otherwise it looks unfired.

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