Help with 9mm Pick

[Bobarino]

since i'm an HK fan, i'll throw in my 2 HK cents. the USP full size might fit the bill. it can be had in DA, SA or DAO has a 4.5 in BBL, is double stack and reliable as a hammer. pricey but worth every penny in my ever-so-humble-yet-always-correct opinion.

Bobby

 

[PX15]

Sig P239.......

 

[XD Niner]

Another enthusiastic vote for the XD-9. Mine has been great and the ergonomics are much closer to my 1911 than most of the other wonder nines especially the Glock. I have over 4000 rounds through mine with total reliability.

 

[DMF]

Range gun for plinking? Competition like IDPA? Carry? All three?

What do you want to do with this gun?

If it's for carry I would go with a Sig or Glock - Sig 228 or 239, G26 or G19.

If you're not going to carry it well that opens up your choices. Full size Sig or Glock, P226 or G17. Maybe a Hi-Power. CDNN has great deals on them from FN.

 

[PaleRyder]

If you like the 1911, a Browning Hi Power or a Star BM are your best choices. And, Stars are very inexpensive and reliable. A Star model B is the same size as a standard 1911 and both it and the BM are cock and lock style single action pistols.

 

[natedog]

Browning Hi-Power: The 9mm 1911 companion

Next up would be the XD; the grip is like a widebody 1911.

 

[rjk2475]

can you give me any data to support accuracy for the BHP and the XD9? thank you

 

[natedog]

From Mr. Stephen A. Camp's website: http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Accuracy.htm


These groups were fired with a factory barrel in a Mk III Hi Power at 15 yards. I submit that this is plenty accurate for a service pistol and would serve plenty good for protection needs, informal target competition, practical pistol competition, or small game hunting.

 

[wardog]

BHP
Any SIG
HK USP, compact or full size

 

[Stratford Holdings]

I just bought an XD9 Subcompact and it's decent. For a 3", it's pretty accurate, though I'm much more accurate with my .45's.

Like someone else said, get a 1911 in 9mm or the USP. I love both of those.

 

[Tango Sierra]

A lot of people here are forgetting you asked for point-ability closest to a 1911. From the SIG line only the P220 comes close to 1911 point-ability and P220 9s aren't always easy to find.

I find the CZ 75 points exactly the same as a 1911 but the stock CZ SA trigger sucks. Someday I'll have a trigger job done to mine.

The H&K USP is close but not quite a match and the Springfield XD is between a 1911 and a SIG P226 but closer to the 226.

None of these grips has the ergonomic feel of a 1911 but I feel the CZ comes closest albeit slightly fatter but not nearly as fat as the double stack SIGs.

 

[FunGunner]

In order

CZ 75B
FN SA HighPower
Sig P226
Beretta 92F

 

[Marshall]

No question on this one, an FN or Browning Hi-Power of course. The 9mm of all 9mm's.

 

[PO2Hammer]

I'll agree with Bobarino, if you want an indestructable 9mm with very soft recoil, the H&K USP is a real tough sumna beech.
The Sig P226 is sweet and smooth, can't go wrong there either.
Glocks are OK, but every range punk owns one.
Never shot a CZ or a BHP, classic designs though.
Not a Beretta fan.

 

[rjk2475]

great info guys. thank you

 

[CougarRed]

So many great 9mms to choose from.

I own an HK P7 PSP, and two Kahrs (one steel, one polymer). I don't think Kahrs have been mentioned on this thread. All 3 are accurate and reliable, although with the fixed barrel, the P7 is most accurate.

Also notice Steyrs have not been mentioned.

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

I agree with all the choices so far--all are excellent guns.

I picked the CZ75B over the Browning HP and Glock 34 because it was considerably less money than either. I like the CZ, but it has some issues with the sear-hammer arrangement. Hopefully CZ will straighten it out for me. If so, I will feel differently, but as of right now I wish I had gone with either the Browning or the Glock.

I notice there isn't a single recommendation for the Beretta 92.

 

[rjk2475]

so which bhp is the best choice? what can i expect to pay? will it need after market enhancements/upgrades? thank you

 

[Marshall]

Which BHP? Depends what you want. I like single action so I suggest, if looking at FN-USA, the SA over a DA although, the SFS is intriging. All of the FN's are just like Brownings MKIII.

If looking at the Browning named ones, I like them all! The standard with adjustable sights is so damn classic it's hard not to buy one but they are more easily scratched up or worn. The MKIII is probably the most popular because it is the least expensive and it also has a good reliable finish. The Practical is probably my overall favorite because of the silver chromed frame and the two tone look. You also get a commander style hammer and Pachmayr grips. Although, I replaced the Pachmayrs on mine.

If you decide on a MKIII, it doesn't matter if it's Browning or FN, they're the same. Get the least expensive, which will be the FN.

Browning Hi-Powers

FN's website is currently under construction.

 

[rjk2475]

Marshall: the standard appears to have better sights than the MIII. is this so?

 

[Pilot]

If you want a BHP for carry, do not get the standard model with the very high, Millet adjustable sights, although I've seen some new models with a "melted in" adjustable sights which makes the rear and front sights lower profile. They actually look pretty good for carry. The MK III is a great all around choice. The matte finish is durable and the standard sights are fine. CDNN has MK III's BHP's for $399. Expect to pay $350 or so for a CZ-75B, and $700 up for a used, yes used HK P7. There ares still some German Police refurbs around in the $700 range. They are all great choices.

 

[phantomak47]

Sig 226 hands down.

 

[Marshall]

Marshall: the standard appears to have better sights than the MIII. is this so?

Hi rjk....,

Well, better for what? Rhetorical question.

Yes, the standard has what I would call better sights because they are adjustable and will give you the ability to adjust your point of impact to point of aim better than the sights on the MKIII and Practical version.

Are they better for carry? No. The adjustable sights are too big to make them a better option than the fixed sights for carrying purposes. I think the adjustables look damn nice on the Hi-Power and are really functional as well. But, the three white dot fixed sights, actually a center square and two rear vertical rectangles, sure allow you to pick them up fast and are much more easily slid in and out of a holster. Having both myself, I would fall on the side of the fixed sights, if I could only have one.

If you have never had a Hi-Power in your hands, do yourself a huge favor and go try one on, you'll fall in love.

Best to you,
Marshall

 

[jonnyc]

For commonality, pointability, and simplicity...
Browning Hi Power.

 

[Big Gay Al]

If you like the 1911 style, but want a higher capacity 9mm, I'd look at the Taurus line. I have two of theirs, the full size PT-92 which looks a lot like the Beretta 92, except the safety is on the frame instead of the slide, and moves in the same style as the 1911.

And I have the mid-sized PT-911, it's safety also is on the frame.

With the AWB having gone away, the capacity of the PT-92/99 series is now 17 rounds, and the PT-911 holds 15. I love both of mine. I've had the PT-92 since 1992, and it has NEVER malfunctioned on me. The PT-911 I just got this year, and it has not malfunctioned on me either. I've put 200+ rounds through it so far.