Here it comes: First open borders, then the N. American Union

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North American union plan headed to Congress in fall
Powerful think tank prepares report on benefits of integration between U.S., Mexico, Canada
Posted: May 24, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


WASHINGTON – A powerful think tank chaired by former Sen. Sam Nunn and guided by trustees including Richard Armitage, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Harold Brown, William Cohen and Henry Kissinger, is in the final stages of preparing a report to the White House and U.S. Congress on the benefits of integrating the U.S., Mexico and Canada into one political, economic and security bloc.

The final report, published in English, Spanish and French, is scheduled for submission to all three governments by Sept. 30, according to the Center for Strategic & International Studies.

CSIS boasts of playing a large role in the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1994 – a treaty that set in motion a political movement many believe resembles the early stages of the European Community on its way to becoming the European Union.

"The results of the study will enable policymakers to make sound, strategic, long-range policy decisions about North America, with an emphasis on regional integration," explains Armand B. Peschard-Sverdrup, director of CSIS' Mexico Project. "Specifically, the project will focus on a detailed examination of future scenarios, which are based on current trends, and involve six areas of critical importance to the trilateral relationship: labor mobility, energy, the environment, security, competitiveness and border infrastructure and logistics."

The data collected for the report is based on seven secret roundtable sessions involving between 21 and 45 people and conducted by CSIS. The participants are politicians, business people, labor leaders and academics from all three countries with equal representation.

All of this is described in a CSIS report, "North American Future 2025 Project."

"The free flow of people across national borders will undoubtedly continue throughout the world as well as in North America, as will the social, political and economic challenges that accompany this trend," says the report. "In order to remain competitive in the global economy, it is imperative for the twenty-first century North American labor market to possess the flexibility necessary to meet industrial labor demands on a transitional basis and in a way that responds to market forces."

As WND reported last week, the controversial "Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007," which would grant millions of illegal aliens the right to stay in the U.S. under certain conditions, contains provisions for the acceleration of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, a plan for North American economic and defense integration with remarkable similarities to the CSIS plan.

The bill, as worked out by Senate and White House negotiators, cites the SPP agreement signed by President Bush and his counterparts in Mexico and Canada March 23, 2005 – an agreement that has been criticized as a blueprint for building a European Union-style merger of the three countries of North America.

"It is the sense of Congress that the United States and Mexico should accelerate the implementation of the Partnership for Prosperity to help generate economic growth and improve the standard of living in Mexico, which will lead to reduced migration," the draft legislation states on page 211 on the version time-stamped May 18, 2007 11:58 p.m.

Since agreement on the major provisions of the bill was announced late last week, a firestorm of opposition has ignited across the country. Senators and representatives are reporting heavy volumes of phone calls and e-mails expressing outrage with the legislation they believe represents the largest "amnesty" program ever contemplated by the federal government.

Meanwhile, while many continue to express skepticism about a plot to integrate North America along the lines of the European Union, WND reported last week that 14 years ago, one of world's most celebrated economists and management experts said it was already on the fast track – and nothing could stop it.

Peter F. Drucker, in one of his dozens of best-selling books, "Post Capitalist Society," published in 1993, wrote that the European Community, the progenitor of the European Union, "triggered the attempt to create a North American economic community, built around the United States but integrating both Canada and Mexico into a common market."

"So far this attempt is purely economic in its goal," wrote the Presidential Medal of Freedom honoree. "But it can hardly remain so in the long run."

Drucker describes in his book the worldwide trends toward globalization that were evident back then – the creation and empowerment of transnational organizations and institutions, international environmental goals regarding carbon dioxide and agreements to fight terrorism long before 9/11.
 
This might not be such a bad idea if Canda and Mexico became part of the US, accepting our language and laws. The idea of multicultural unity has a lot of problems though.
 
Does anyone honestly think that this could possibly benefit US citizens in any way? This is analogous to a political coup of the the US.
 
sillimsn89, that's the most outrageus thing I've ever heard.

Unless you care to be more specific, all I can say is "OK". It's the internet. Sometimes people are outrageous.

I was only saying there's a huge difference in how the union with our neighbors is accomplished. I don't necessarily think it's a good idea to grow our country that much, but if we kept our laws and government and they joined us, maybe the idea could be considered and discussed.

I don't think Canada would really even notice the difference.

As for Mexico, while some still complain about how we took half their country 150 years ago, I don't see anyone lined up to flee Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, California, Utah, or Colorado and return to Mexico. If the remaining half of Mexico became part of the US today, I think the reaction would be pretty much the same.

The idea of forming some new multi cultural union that supercedes national sovereignty is what strikes me as outrageous.
 
Silliman89

This might not be such a bad idea if Canda and Mexico became part of the US, accepting our language and laws.

Actually, even though they'd never accept our language and laws (except the English-speaking Canadians might accept our language -- it'd be "aboat" time), it WOULD be a HORRENDOUS idea. Do you want tens of millions of poor, uneducated Mexicans to suddenly have a vote regarding our gun rights, tax policy, welfare policy, foreign policy, etc.? What about millions of Leftie Canadians voting for more Lefty Senators? How long do you really think that "our laws" would stay on the books?

C'mon, this can't work and shouldn't. Lowering trade barriers - on BOTH sides of the respective borders - OK, fine. That'll help all three countries compete with the rest of the world. The rest you can keep, thank you.
 
I think open boarders would be good. I would love to get a nice place in Mexico. It is just a matter of time before the get annexed anyway.
 
Pure hogwash.:rolleyes:
Consider the source, it's an internet tabloid.:barf:

Just because it's a right-wing tabloid doesn't mean that the rubbish that they publish has any more relevance than the garbage that comes from the liberal tabloids.

Come on poeple! Apply a little critical analysis before you start clucking about how the sky is falling.

I spend less and less time here these days because I'm finding less and less info about firearms and more and more polemical treatises and BS masquerading as journalism.

If I want to be exposed to this garbage I'll turn on the television and alternate channels between MSNBC and Fox News.:banghead:
 
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If I want to be exposed to this garbage I'll turn on the television and alternate channels between MSNBC and Fox News.

Many wish to stick their head in sand as they did in germany prior to ww2,
and that is fine if you wish not to believe or discuss change channels.
 
Knowing how useless and worthless most of DC is it's easy to see why they think this is a good idea. A step towards a one world Government. First destroy the borders and enforcement let anyone in and stand up create a crisis so you can have draconian measures against the citizens who won't go along with your plans.
When this goes thru since us citizens dont have a say or vote look for a second civil war and it will be anything but civil.
 
On the question of annexation by the United States, 19.9 per cent of Canadians said at that time that they would be in favour, while 76.5 per cent rejected the proposition.

Pretty big number in favor still. What the Canadians may not realize if we hadnt had a revolution we most certainly would have been the same country today. Remember, it wasnt just the '13 colonies'.
 
A lot of Canadians don't like this any more than we do, but they are already
knuckled under. Keep in mind when you travel through Canada that you can
pay with USD directly in many stores (they will do the exchange rate for
you right of the cash register). They have been doing this for at least 10
years that I can remember. On this side of the border most of us won't allow
someone to slip us a Canadian quarter.

Do you remember the outrage here when some small pizza chain in the US
said they would take pesos directly as payment? It's just not really done
here.

Flip side is that cash doesn't matter when you use plastic. It's all exchanged
at the day's rate wherever you are.
 
Many wish to stick their head in sand as they did in germany prior to ww2,
and that is fine if you wish not to believe or discuss change channels.

Would that be a reference to the Sudetenland or the rise of the National Socialist Party?
And while your equivocating on German complacency during the rise of the third reich, how about telling me how any portion of this thread relates to firearms, the 2A, or reality for that matter.
 
It wont happen this year, but US, Canada and Mexico are going to continue to move towards fewer and fewer obstacles to trade and migration. Already unskilled labor is freely moving back and forth. I really dont think they will JOIN the countries per se, but they will get rid of a lot of the obstacles to goods/services/people getting from where they are to where they need to be. If they can somehow exempt americans from paying the outlandish taxes in mexico or canada, that would open up a huge market for skilled jobs in those countries. Still, there are many obstacles to anything of that sort.

The big hurdles for them to overcome will be:
-cultural differences between the three countries, obviously
-differences in the operation of their respective legal systems
-language barrier
-the fact that the wealthy countries have a fat entitlement system that didnt budget for 100 million poor mexicans
-poverty of the mexicans, especially the parts not bordering the US which are really poor and really messed up
-mexican problems with illegal immigration from even crappier countries to their south. Absorbing mexico wont change get rid of the problem.
-hostility of americans to paying tax
-corruption of the mexican government
-huge financial benefits to being able to avoid taxes and labor rules by having an imaginary line separating a 3rd world and 1st world country

IMO there are just too many benefits to having "free trade between the countries" without actually joining them. Each country has its own problems and stupid regulations that smuggling and import/export can circumvent. US has stupid drug laws- mexican smugglers help with that. Mexico has a ruined economy and horrible government- but it stops at the border with el norte, a sort of halfway solution. Canada has a typical socialist mess that punishes overachievers- another government-wide problem that stops at the borders. Plenty of canadian engineers, scientists and entertainers have made the switch.
 
If the borders were opened, it'd be a heck of a lot easier to smuggle in a few of those Norinco M1As. :evil:
 
Well, there are already tons of AKMs being smuggled into the US now...

PolyTech Industries were caught in 1997 with one or two container loads. That's the official story. They were caught with several. One container was tracked into NJ of all places. Caches of ammo have been found but these don't get much press. I've not read anything of this sort in at least five years. It should give one reason to pause.

For the single-issue people reading this:

* What are the gun laws of our immediate neighbors?

* What are the gun laws of the NATO nations?

Can you not see what is GOING TO HAPPEN sooner than later???

These treaties will "supercede" our national way of life and NATO is expanding, though I see a Multi-Jurisdictional Task Force of sorts comprising NATO and US elements "doing the deed". Read about NATO's expansion - WHICH IS FULLY SUPPORTED BY OUR GOV'T LEADERS... http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NAZ20070517&articleId=5677

This, my friends, IS THE NWO... the United States of Europe versus the severely crippled United States of America.

The Trilateral Commission's stated goal is to have the world's nations grouped into three blocs and then merged into one. Would not the laws of these blocs be identical in many respects?I thought you'd see the light.
 
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A lot of Canadians don't like this any more than we do...


Very true. In fact, if the information in this article is to be believed, about half as many Canadians favor the initiative as do Americans.

While 38 per cent of respondents said they would be "in favour of Canada being annexed to the United States," 49 per cent disagreed.
 
NAFTA was phase I, and immigration reform will be phase II of the North American Union. Phase III will be the second civil war!!!
 
Prna

I think open boarders would be good.

Is that like Pirates of the Carribean or what?
:neener:

C'mon people, I get accused of having my head in the sand sometimes. This has already happened. By the time its apparent to all the TV watchers and suburb dwellers it will be decades late. The North American/Atlantic Union is underway, along with the destruction of what some people call 'individual rights'.

ST

Peoples Republic of North America
 
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