Here it comes: First open borders, then the N. American Union

[longeyes]

The bobble-heads in D.C. want to portray this as just more economic and security "cooperation."

The problem is their entire worldview is comprised of economics--subsidizing the powerful few--and security--in the name of ever greater control over the citizenry.

 

[Crunker1337]

A miserable idea. Our three countries, though each great in their own way, are totally different. Having a culturally plural country is not a good idea.

 

[Waitone]

So we go from fed.gov in the form of Tony Snow denying there is any such plan afoot to a gold plated presentation by the who's who of things global. Someone has either lied in the past or will be lying in the future. Sorta make one think the public will be presented with a fait accompli. I can't wait to hear the debate of agreement v. treaty.

 

[Mr. James]

Someone has either lied in the past or will be lying in the future

My only quibble with your post is the "or" should read "and."

Otherwise, you nailed it.

 

[The Canuck]

What about millions of Leftie Canadians voting for more Lefty Senators? How long do you really think that "our laws" would stay on the books?

Well, what if you guys just picked up Alberta?

 

[pcosmar]

Every time someone posts a warning or a piece of the plan for a North American Union they get flamed.
It is always a conspiracy theory and we are accused of wearing tinfoil hats.
This is being done, NAFTA, CAFTA , SPP are coming together, whether we like it or not.
They are not asking and you don't get a vote.

 

[lamazza]

This is being done, NAFTA, CAFTA , SPP are coming together, whether we like it or not.
They are not asking and you don't get a vote.

Yup! Already in the works and the money to go with it.
http://amerocurrency.com/

 

[Chui]

Oh, gee! You aren't speaking about....


















Conspiracies!! Oh, my!

 

[Waitone]

Nothing conspiratorial about it. Pretty much in-your-face politics.

 

[Caimlas]

It is always a conspiracy theory and we are accused of wearing tinfoil hats.

I have a theory about this. It's pretty simple, really. The people who roll their eyes and go on their merry way are demonstrating one (or more) of the following thought problems:

- They're avoiding the issue, subconsciously; they've not looked into it or thought about it, but want to avoid such a potential at all costs.
- They've still got "faith" in the United States Government; or, at least, our form of government and process.

Unfortunately, the motivations behind all of these mindsets is purely emotional and not based on fact. There are government (.gov) domains and government documents discussing the NAU, and the American trans-corridor super highway (or whatever it's being called). I would not be surprised if there are government documents talking about an "Amero" as well, as it fits in with the paradigm.

The facts remain fairly solid: the US government is making headway towards marginalizing our Constitutional government even further, and subjugating us to an international authority. We're just 20 years (if that) behind Europe in the process.

Look at the current legislation in play - the legislation which has almost everyone on both sides of hte political isle up in arms, yet the majority of our Elect supports - which is proposing all manners of liberty abbreviations: illegal amnesty, gun control, expansion of police and executive branch control - and on and on. Not a week goes by where there isn't more of such legislation or executive order getting put on the books.

Taking all this into consideration, there's no rational way you can deny that our system is being subverted. Some law maker 10 years from now will say, "our system is broken; we need to re-structure with Canada and Mexico to form a new government" - and it will make sense, because they'll have so seriously broken the government that only two options would be possible: re-containment (ie larger government at a higher level of abstraction) or rebuilding (and you know they'd never go for that).

 

[helpless]

It is funny that when stuff like this is brought up you get accused of believing in conspiracy theories. They have been putting this together in secret for years and people have been screaming about it for ever.

Are we just waiting for the whites of there eyes or what?

 

[Chui]

I was being sardonic, waitone. I've been following this type of material for the better part of 16 years now.

With all of the evidence being provided it shuts up those who bury their Minds in the sand not realizing that their arses are just as exposed...

It's good to see some people paying attention. God knows there's not nearly enough aware.

May God bless us all. Or at least those of us who give a damn...

 

[wingman]

It's good to see some people paying attention. God knows there's not nearly enough aware.

We have high numbers of people in the USA who prefer to hear and see nothing, statements like "its aways been this way and always will be" etc. We live in fast changing times many parts of the world want to bring America down some through force others economically and sad to say our government/corporate powers don't care or so interested in making money ignore coming problems. Yes, America will be here but in what form and what living standards. Simply if your living good today do not take it for granted.

 

[Thin Black Line]

The facts remain fairly solid: the US government is making headway towards marginalizing our Constitutional government even further, and subjugating us to an international authority.

Sadly too many people believe this only happens when someone from the
other party --"surely not MINE!"-- is sitting in the oval office. It works
for the Gammas and below of our society and takes in many of the Betas
as well.

 

[Travis McGee]

In 20 years, there will not be 50 United States.

 

[1911Tuner]

The data collected for the report is based on seven secret roundtable sessions involving between 21 and 45 people and conducted by CSIS.

This is the part that should send up the red flags. Powerful, connected people conducting sub rosa summits and making plans that will affect us all are not to be trusted. i.e. If it's such a good thing...why all the secrecy?

 

[LAK]

WASHINGTON – A powerful think tank chaired by former Sen. Sam Nunn and guided by trustees including Richard Armitage, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Harold Brown, William Cohen and Henry Kissinger, is in the final stages of preparing a report to the White House and U.S. Congress on the benefits of integrating the U.S., Mexico and Canada into one political, economic and security bloc

This is not news to many, who have seen this coming from the beginning. Just as the "Common Market" in the 1950s was the planned embryonic European Union. Having watched this slow motion progression over several decades and listened to the excusers, appeasers and scoffers, it does not give me any pleasure to rub it in their faces now.

Of course we will see how many of them turn to embrace now what they denied was in the making, for so long.

Our so-called "enemies" elsewhere in the world pale in comparison to the threat these people represent. These people are the enemies of the United States. And it is high time we shipped these people with no ultimate allegience to any particular country out of ours - and to a homeland of their own.

And now some people might realize why their boy George is not going to be putting a stop to people migrating north - and his best boy Chertoff is not going to be rounding any of them up and sending them back south again where they belong.

That traitor needs impeaching badly. Very badly.

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http://ussliberty.org
http://ssunitedstates.org

 

[James T Thomas]

usurpation of power

"Governmet of the people, by the people, and for the people."

Not -of the committe, by the think tank, and for the percieved good. The decisions of government are being made, not by we the people, but by nonrepresentative politicians being influenced and guided by others than ourselves.

The American voter and citizen are not to be dealt with as children; to be patronized by the well meaning and protective representative government.
We must live with the consequences of our own will and decisions, not of those who represent us -making the decisions according to their own wisdom and ursuping our authority all the time while they live at the taxpayers expense!

People like Kissinger, Brezezinsky; former cabinet members who had at one time power and influence cannot stand being relegated to a citizen who must depend on their legislators for political influence, have no business engaging in advisory or academic committees when those same bypass the American People.

Former -meddling Pres. Jimmy Carter comes to mind. I believe it is illegal for a private citizen to engage in any form of diplomacy or to be a quasi -ambassador for the USA, yet there Mr. Carter is, doing just that, and with no legal consequences for his actions.

 

[longeyes]

They will go too far. They always do. What looks like a slam dunk won't be. There is a volcano of yet not fully focused and articulated rage in this nation about what's been happening and who's been behind it. It is now emerging as people begin to grasp the full implications of the current "immigrant reform" bill. Betrayal is hard to fully come to terms with; it leaves a lot of people numb and in shock. But eventually they "sober up." The people of this country are coming awake, connecting the dots. They have, most of them, played by the rules, trusted, been believers in "the system;" now they are being compelled to recognize that the rule of law can be bent or ignored and that "rogue government" isn't just a term of poetry.

 

[James T Thomas]

clear thinking

You said it very well "Longeyes."

PS: With that pseudonym, are you NAM, and which nation?

 

[mordechaianiliewicz]

I still find it funny that so many of us have tried to warn y'all. We've posted the government websites admitting to these plots, but so many of you just don't seem to want to believe it.

It's coming. The question is what are you going to do about it.

 

[Pat Cannon]

Personally I think the idea of a North American union has appeal, but it should be done in the traditional manner of simply accepting territories as new states whose citizens would enjoy all the freedoms of our excellent Constitution. If I correctly added up all the Mexican states and Canadian provinces and territories, there will be 94 states. 94 stars can be fit quite neatly in that blue field -- I humbly submit or new flag:

The name of our nation should not change to the US of North America or anything like that, since there's no reason to rule out any part of South America from joining as well. In the meanwhile, controlling the entry of Guatamalans into our 94th state, Chiapas, would presumably be easier than controlling the entry of Mexicans into Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California.