Hi Point pistols

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I thought the implication was the fixed barrel design was more inherently accurate than the tilting barrel design.

It would, all other things being equal. However, you put an eleven pound trigger, straight blowback design on that fixed barrel, and it becomes a lot harder to shoot the gun accurately, even if an argument can be made that the gun is or should be more mechanically accurate.
 
I've never owned or shot any of their handguns, but that never stopped me before. :p These are what you buy when you need a handgun but have only $150-$180 to spend and no more. As for the functioning problems, I've had a name brand gun costing six times as much that went one round before choking. :rolleyes: I actually liked the one HP I've shot, a 9mm carbine.
 
I see Hi Point pistols advertised on Bud's for $150-$175 new. I do not know anything about these guns. I own many guns-S&W, Colt, Ruger, Sig, Springfield, Glock, etc but do not know anything about this pistol called the Hi Point. One large Richmond VA dealer told me they would not sell it or take one in on trade. I am NOT in the market for one but would be interested in anyone's experience with this brand. Are they really that bad? Thanks in advance.
if you have all the guns you say you do, you have no real use for a Hi Point, unless you're looking for a disposable gun. Hi Points are made for people who can't afford Colts, S&W's, Rugers, etc.

i've owned one, and my brother owned a couple. they were dead reliable, accurate enough for self defense, and rock solid. they were a pain in the ass to carry, and when we could afford to upgrade, we did. i still wouldn't mind having one or two, though, just to keep in my garage or my truck. i carry a 1911, by the way, and my brother now carries an older Taurus 669 in .357 Mag.

Hi Points are good guns. Hi Points are cheap guns. Hi Points are ugly guns. Hi Points are the most divisive guns in the firearms indstry, i'll bet. i see more arguments over their merits than i've seen arguments over .45ACP versus 9mm, Glocks versus 1911s, or AR15s versus AK47s.
 
^^^ While I partially agree with the above poster's first sentence... I'd have to disagree overall (with the first sentence only). Some folks don't really enjoy shooting but want/need a SD/HD firearm. Those people would be better served with a good dependable cheap gun. Too, what about people who just want to "try" shooting and don't know if it'll grow into a hobby? Lastly, there are those Spartan-type individuals... ermm... the cheapskates. High-Point has all these folks covered.
 
i have 2 hi-points, a 995ts 9mm carbine and a jhp 45acp pistol. they are a lil unconventional in style, but both run perfectly with zero issues with around 1,000 rounds through them total. the pistol is big,bulky,top-heavy,accurate and i like it. the carbine is a blast and my gf wont give it up at the range. thats when the plr16 came in :D. the carbine is a tack driver at 25 yards with the 1.5 inch bull chewed up by her. im not a hp fanboy but they arent bad for the money imo.....maybe i just got lucky. the 45 acp carbine is next. seems from what ive read, the 9mm pistol seems to have the most feeding issues. i tear my guns down ,do a lil polish on slide and ramp,adjust feed lips and im good to go........ your results may vary
 
I have a 9mm Hi-Point and it is a great truck gun. Fires any round I put in it and never has an issue with jams or mis-fires. It is far too bulky to use as a carry gun but it fits in the glove box nicely. I keep 3 mags loaded. 2 with Winchester FMJ cheap-o loads for blasting and one with Hornady hollow point for self defense. I don't think anyone who owns high $$ handguns is going to "recommend" a Hi-Point but the one I own definitely serves its purpose. I don't want to scratch my S&W or Sig but if this gets a new scratch I am okay with it. I bought the 9mm carbine a few weeks ago and love it as well.
 
Friend of mine has a .40 cal model. Takes it out way more often to plink with than his glock. When I asked why, he says IDK, I guess I just get a kick out of how cheap this gun is, and it works. He's never had an issue with it during any outing we've had together and he's said he's never had a malfunction out of it.

I see them going all the time at gun shows. Not pretty IMO, but then again neither are glocks, as well as many other, IMO. Buy what you like.

Heck I think the Ruger Mark II and II are ugly pistols, but I have two, cuz they are fun to shoot.
 
A guy who works for me has the 9mm carbine. I've had the opportunity to put quite a few rounds through it (cheap Blazer aluminum cased stuff) and it had zero issues. He hasn't had any issues with it either. In fact, I have a standing offer that if he ever wants to sell it (at the right price) to give me first dibs. I know this isn't the pistol but at least this one Hi Point product seems to work well.
 
Friend's dad (friend has the hi point 40 cal pistol) has the Hi point 9 mm carbine. It too has been a very functional rifle.
 
My brother-n-law loves them, i still don't really care for them but guess it just depends on the person.

Also, from what he tells me. you can put 2000 rds through it and when its time to clean it, just send it into the company and they'll just send you a new one... so i guess you cant beat that. (if you don't like to clean your own guns!):mad:
 
i had a HP for a little while it was ok, could not get the sights on though.still there customer service is great, i broke the back sight off and they sent me a new one.
 
^^^ Ha ha ha... now that's pretty funny!! But... drives it up the cost for everyone else, doesn't it?

Considering that overnight shipping on handguns tends to run about $45-50, thats a heck of an expensive trip back to the factory for a "cleaning".

That whole thing sounds for internet "You know what I heard!!?!?!' sort of thing. Hi Points have a lifetime warranty - that doesn't mean that they hand out new ones like candy.

Also, for anyone that LIKES a manufacturer, I can't fathom the eagerness to send it back. Manufacturer's fix things to keep negative press down, but the instant you send a gun back to them you've already killed any and all profit they made on that gun. If you send it back once you've now gone from a customer to a business expense.

As always if something is actually broken then a company needs to fix something, but people who are eager to send something back at the drop of the hand because its "dirty" or they saw faint machining marks on the inside of the slide irk me to know end.
 
I have a 995 carbine which has run flawlessly for over 1500 rounds. I may even give it a thorough cleaning one of these days. I also picked up a NIB JHP for $125 because it was so cheap and it also worked perfectly. The cost of the pistol was negated by all the expensive .45 I was putting through it so I traded it in.

Every gun gun shop I've been in have said the same thing about Hi-Point pistols: "They sure are ugly but they're accurate and dependable." Except one place that said, "We don't carry H-P, it attracts the wrong crowd." I've never been back there, being from the "wrong crowd," you know.
 
im going to shoot my 995 carbine right now. different guns for different folks. i dont need to justify what i buy to fellow gun owners for the same reason they dont need to justify purchasing a $1200 pistol. we are all involved in the same sport here guys. they are ugly,cheap, and mine function perfectly every time they are shot. will i carry my hi-point 45 acp? never. i have another pistol for that. i like varirety:D
 
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as to the trigger......

Now for the triggers. As I mentioned earlier, the Hi-Point pistol is fitted with a single-action trigger. According to my gunsmith’s trigger pull scale, the required weight to letoff was just under 4 pounds, and those on both pistols had small amounts of take-up and broke very crisply. One would not be out of place calling their trigger pulls impressive.


that was from a review i dug up. the trigger is certainly not 11 lbs. thats laughable !!

im not trying to argue, but passing on misinformation without having shot one doesnt help anyone out. just sayin :)

heres the link http://www.shootingtimes.com/2005/10/06/hi-point-pistols-basic-but-oh-so-reliable/
 
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I've got a High Point in 40 S&W that I got new for $100. It shoots great and it's very dependable. I don't shoot it much due to the violent muzzle flip but I'm guessing it's the cartridge and not the pistol. You can rip off 3 mags full of ammo as fast as you can pull the trigger and slam another mag in it and it won't hesitate. It really is a good gun for the money.
 
it must be the hyper .40 doing that, my .45 is a pussycat !! dont get me wrong ,it has recoil but its not as sharp as the recoil of a 40. my gf just said yesterday she wants to shoot the black pistol...lol check out the grips
 

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My brother-in-law has a Hi-Point .45. It's a lot like him: not much to look at, heavier than it needs to be but you can count on it.

It's a good gun for someone who will buy it and one box of ammo, shoot it a few times every couple of years and leave it in the nightstand.

There are a whole lot of gun owners like that.
 
My first-ever handgun purchase in the US was a Hi-Point 380 (with the silver trim on the slide). It was also my first .380. Never heard of the brand before then, but the price screamed out at me: $99.99 at Long's Drug Store (yes, this was some years ago!). Turns out it was priced just $0.05 over MSRP.

It was big. It was heavy. It was accurate. My buddies (1911 die-hards) laughed until I out-shot them on steel plates we set up in the desert. It is easy to rack the slide back and my daughters loved shooting it (they were 11 and 15 at the time).

Hoppe's dissolves the paint in the sights as well as the red dot on the safety. Redid using daughters' red nail polish, no problem.

Cut myself once loading the magazine. Edges of feed lips very sharp. Dremel took care of that.

Had one jam when it was new (FTF, round did not seat completely, slide was out of battery...slam slide with palm of support hand, and continue firing). Cleaned and re-oiled, never a FTE, FTF since then, using ball and HP ammo. Eats anything I feed it.

Exceedingly comfortable to hold. The grip is very nicely contoured, although seriously sweaty hands may slip on the plastic. Maybe some decal grips will fix?

I now have an HP in .40S&W as well. Same thing: VERY accurate out of the box. Came with regular rear sight as well as ghost ring in the box, installed ghost ring and I love shooting that baby (and I hate reloading the magazines all the time!)

PROS:
1. Accurate. I challenge anyone to find a more accurate gun in this price range.
2. Comfortable to hold and aim.
3. Weight offsets recoil, very comfortable to shoot.
4. Is often mistaken (by the gun ignorant) for a Glock (no offense to Glock fans)
All 4 are positive functional points for consideration.

CONS:
1. It is ugly. But then if you ever had to use it, all the BG will need to see is the muzzle.
2. It is heavy. This is a factor in concealed carry.
3. It is big. A gun this big should have a higher magazine capacity.
4. Magazine feed lips are sharp (cheaply made). They will cut you if you are not careful, and they will distort when dropped. But I have seen 1911 magazines do this, too. So not a significant con.
5. It is the very devil to disassemble and clean. This is a serious con, since it affects how often you will clean the piece, but it is a user-sensitive con. How OCD are you about cleaning your guns?
Of these cons, exclude the aestheric cons (big and ugly), the functional cons are not related to the gun's shooting function.

I like my Hi-Points. I hate cleaning them. I love shooting them. I hate reloading them. They are comfortable in the hand and the weight helps offset the recoil impulse. I cannot CC them, too heavy.

I fired a friend's HP 9mm carbine, and I hated that one because of the cheek slap.

As a "workingman's gun" (which is how it is advertised), it fits the bill for a budget. I would never take it to a competition, but if my life depended on it, I would have no reservations about taking it with me when the SHTF.

Hope that helps, from a 2-time Hi-Point owner. (I gues that means I am twice-damned?) Oh, and I own 3 Glocks, so I am 5-times-damned? More so since I do not have a single M1911? Heh-heh
 
I can stand at 25 feet and fire 17 rounds of FMJ as fast as I can pull the trigger. All 17 will generally be in the 2-3" zone unless I pull. I tried it on my hip but my pants kept sagging because the loaded gun weighs so much. It is big and ugly. So am I. It hits what is is aimed at. So do I. I guess all the people who laugh at this line of guns are brave enough to stand in front of a BG with the Hi-Point 9mm and just laugh because they know the gun is unreliable?
 
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I can stand at 25 feet and fire 17 rounds of FMJ as fast as I can pull the trigger. All 17 will generally be in the 2-3" zone unless I pull. I tried it on my hip but my pants kept sagging because the loaded gun weighs so much. It is big and ugly. So am I. It hits what is is aimed at. So do I. I guess all the people who laugh at this line of guns are brave enough to stand in front of a BG with the Hi-Point 9mm and just laugh because they know the gun is unreliable?

Wait, wait: where the heck are you finding a 17 round magazine for a Hi Point?

This smacks of someone who isn't even familiar with the gun throwing out a number because 17 is what most modern pistols hold.
 
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I can stand at 25 feet and fire 17 rounds of FMJ as fast as I can pull the trigger. All 17 will generally be in the 2-3" zone unless I pull. I tried it on my hip but my pants kept sagging because the loaded gun weighs so much. It is big and ugly. So am I. It hits what is is aimed at. So do I. I guess all the people who laugh at this line of guns are brave enough to stand in front of a BG with the Hi-Point 9mm and just laugh because they know the gun is unreliable?

Once, I would attribute to a typo. Twice and I'm pretty sure it's more than questionable. Where are you getting 'em 16 round magazines for the HP, pray tell?
 
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