There was a home invasion by a black bear in Ohio and there's no thread on this??? You guys are disapointing me. 
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/23/bear.attack.ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/23/bear.attack.ap/index.html
Home invasion by a bear
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pittspilot
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I am glad you brought this up.
Since we have never discussed this before; what is a good round for bear?
Since we have never discussed this before; what is a good round for bear?
And people keep saying you don't need to carry a gun when out in blackie country, because they run at the first sniff of humans.
If anything, black bear are probably more dangerous than grizzlies or brownies. They're "known" to be less dangerous, so people are less cautious. They're extremely good at climbing trees. They're scavengers, so playing dead will only get you killed more painfully; it also means they'll be attracted to human campsites, dumpsters, homes, and other sources of trash. Black bears don't do "bluff charges," barking, stomping, or other shennanigans to scare you away as often as other bears do--if one comes near you, it's probably because it thinks you're food.
If anything, black bear are probably more dangerous than grizzlies or brownies. They're "known" to be less dangerous, so people are less cautious. They're extremely good at climbing trees. They're scavengers, so playing dead will only get you killed more painfully; it also means they'll be attracted to human campsites, dumpsters, homes, and other sources of trash. Black bears don't do "bluff charges," barking, stomping, or other shennanigans to scare you away as often as other bears do--if one comes near you, it's probably because it thinks you're food.
qlajlu
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This particular black bear was being raised as breeding stock and escaped from its cage. It had no fear of humans because it was always around them as they cared for it.
Sunray
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Letterman, some time back, had video of a black bear that came for a visit to his country home. Wyoming, I think. Yogi came in, wrecked the fridge crisper drawer after opening the fridge like he has one in his cave, had a power nap on one of the beds and left. Letterman showed surprising presence of mind by staying out of Yogi's way and just filming it all.
What it boils down to is that if you want to live out in the boonies and leave your doors open, you're going to be visited by the locals. Be that Pepe le Pew or Yogi. Leave 'em be, don't confront them or block the way out and they aren't likely to do you or your's any harm.
What it boils down to is that if you want to live out in the boonies and leave your doors open, you're going to be visited by the locals. Be that Pepe le Pew or Yogi. Leave 'em be, don't confront them or block the way out and they aren't likely to do you or your's any harm.
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My brother has had a black bear living in the woods about 200 yards behind his house for about 3 years now. He sees it once in a while, but never feeds it. It makes him kind of nervous to know that it is there, but they just don't bother each other. He doesn't like the idea of shooting it, but he keeps a loaded rifle handy, just in case it may decide to get friendly.
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Johnny Blaze,
I think your brother has the right idea. As long as the bear keeps his distance leave him be, but keep a good rifle handy in case he gets agressive toward/too comfortable around people. Not feeding it and not encouraging it to visit is right on too.
I think your brother has the right idea. As long as the bear keeps his distance leave him be, but keep a good rifle handy in case he gets agressive toward/too comfortable around people. Not feeding it and not encouraging it to visit is right on too.
Cosmoline
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Who the devil breeds black bears? It's illegal in this state. I'm no PETA activist, but it seems wrong on every level. And exceedingly dangerous.
Limeyfellow
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Circuses generally. Also some people use bears for fighting each other. Some are bred for sanctuaries in the past but generally not so much anymore with the recovery of the grizzly.
shooter429
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Too bad for the bear and the people involved
It sounds as though the human victim is stable, which is more than can be said for the bear. What a tragic waste. I actually feel bad for all involved, especially the child who witnessed the attack and called in. Generally speaking, I think a 12 Ga. mag. or heavy .45 Cal. rifle would be as good as the average person can find.
Shooter429
It sounds as though the human victim is stable, which is more than can be said for the bear. What a tragic waste. I actually feel bad for all involved, especially the child who witnessed the attack and called in. Generally speaking, I think a 12 Ga. mag. or heavy .45 Cal. rifle would be as good as the average person can find.
Shooter429
My first thought upon hearing this was how many 9 mm or 45 rounds would it take to drop a home invading bear? Just goes to show you can be prepared, but you can't be prepared for everything.
Certainly nothing I keep ready for HD would be adequate for a bear. I suppose a contact shot of 12 ga 00 buck might do the job. But honestly, if someone in my family were getting mauled I would grab the first ready firearm, adequate for the job or not. The girl thought quick and saved her mom. Probably a better solution actually than shooting the bear.
I almost feel bad for the business that owned the bear. They don't have a leg to stand on when that civil suit comes rolling at them.
Certainly nothing I keep ready for HD would be adequate for a bear. I suppose a contact shot of 12 ga 00 buck might do the job. But honestly, if someone in my family were getting mauled I would grab the first ready firearm, adequate for the job or not. The girl thought quick and saved her mom. Probably a better solution actually than shooting the bear.
I almost feel bad for the business that owned the bear. They don't have a leg to stand on when that civil suit comes rolling at them.
Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
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Surely, we must ban claws and teeth.
1911Tuner
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Yep. That'd get the old adrenalin flowin'. I thought I was gonna have an invasion by my neighbor's bull last Friday. Opened the door and there he stood...and when I tried to shoo him away, he pawed the ground, bobbed his head and advanced a step...and all I had was a puny .45 auto on my belt. Just a yearling at only about 1,000 pounds or so, he looked like a Triceratops aquiring a target at 15 feet.
Ahhhh...Life in the sticks!
Yep. That'd get the old adrenalin flowin'. I thought I was gonna have an invasion by my neighbor's bull last Friday. Opened the door and there he stood...and when I tried to shoo him away, he pawed the ground, bobbed his head and advanced a step...and all I had was a puny .45 auto on my belt. Just a yearling at only about 1,000 pounds or so, he looked like a Triceratops aquiring a target at 15 feet.
Ahhhh...Life in the sticks!
'Card
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Was this bear wearing a bra, by any chance?
MudPuppy
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Personally, I'd want something with more penetration than a 12 gauge (but, I'm not a huge shottie fan and I'm biased) or a 45. I'd want a 308--that sounds like a good excuse to get one of the 308 HK G3 style pistols, right? 
On the flip side, if the bears would just eat politicians, I'd probably pull up a chair and cheer them on.
On the flip side, if the bears would just eat politicians, I'd probably pull up a chair and cheer them on.
Incident was in Ashtabula County (Don't recall the town name right now), Due East of Cleveland, next to the OH/PA state line.
Guy has been breeding wild animals for around 20 years, with all the proper permits from the Ohio Wildlife guys.
Bear got away when guy opened cage to clean it out. IIRC, 'Blackie' was around 500Lbs...a good sized bear.
Guy has been breeding wild animals for around 20 years, with all the proper permits from the Ohio Wildlife guys.
Bear got away when guy opened cage to clean it out. IIRC, 'Blackie' was around 500Lbs...a good sized bear.
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My older brother, his fiance & her parents went camping recently. They woke in the middle of the night to find a black bear going through their food.
My older brother isn't a gunner so they were all unarmed. They got in the truck until the bear left. Everyone's ok but my older brother still doesn't think he needs a gun . I guess that instead of a 590 for a wedding gift, he'll be getting a toaster oven.
My older brother isn't a gunner so they were all unarmed. They got in the truck until the bear left. Everyone's ok but my older brother still doesn't think he needs a gun . I guess that instead of a 590 for a wedding gift, he'll be getting a toaster oven.
Ohio was not bear country but...
Ohio was not bear country a few years back, but they were known to wonder in from time to time. Some have stayed and the population is growing. In 2004 a tagged black bear crossed the Ohio river from West Virginia to Gallipolis we had the bear here in Clinton County area a week and a half later. It actually wandered through my home town. Luckily nobody was hurt. A few weeks later it was seen crossing back over roughly in the same area where it started its little Buckeye tour. One thing is for sure, as heavily populated as Ohio is and with both a growing human and bear population there will be more encounters....
http://ohiodnr.com/wildlife/Resources/bears/ohiobears0804.htm
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/aq02.htm
Ohio was not bear country a few years back, but they were known to wonder in from time to time. Some have stayed and the population is growing. In 2004 a tagged black bear crossed the Ohio river from West Virginia to Gallipolis we had the bear here in Clinton County area a week and a half later. It actually wandered through my home town. Luckily nobody was hurt. A few weeks later it was seen crossing back over roughly in the same area where it started its little Buckeye tour. One thing is for sure, as heavily populated as Ohio is and with both a growing human and bear population there will be more encounters....
http://ohiodnr.com/wildlife/Resources/bears/ohiobears0804.htm
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/aq02.htm
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He doesn't need a gun as badly as some lessons on how not the be a dumbass noob camping in bear country. All food must be kept more than 500 feet from your campsite preferably downwind. It should be hung from a tree limb more than 8 feet above ground. You should conduct all washing away from the campsite, both personal and cook/dishes. In other words, don't make your camp smell tastey and you won't have any critters come into camp.
Zen21Tao
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Hows this for an anti-bear gun?
walking arsenal
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I'm actually kind of glad this thread has come up. It has answered a few questions i actually needed answered.
M. WA and I have since relocated to a small cabin on a defunct resort. The owner tells us (after we move in) that they have bear problems. Interestingly enough, i couldnt persuade her that her bear problem might be because of all the garbage they "store" near their house.
Keeping this in mind i've also relocated my .303 enfield and my Mossberg 500 with slugs and ranger low recoil 00 buck. Not sure if the enfield is good bear gun but i'm pretty certain the mossy is.
I figure the cabin is easy pickings for bear because it's really close to the woods, it's not in an open clearing. I figure this will make them bolder.
So far we keep what little trash we make indoors. The problem is that i'm afraid this will invite them in as well. Not much keeping yogi out.
Any thoughts from those that live in true bear country. BTW, this is Nothern Minnesota. Mostly Blck bears here.
M. WA and I have since relocated to a small cabin on a defunct resort. The owner tells us (after we move in) that they have bear problems. Interestingly enough, i couldnt persuade her that her bear problem might be because of all the garbage they "store" near their house.
Keeping this in mind i've also relocated my .303 enfield and my Mossberg 500 with slugs and ranger low recoil 00 buck. Not sure if the enfield is good bear gun but i'm pretty certain the mossy is.
I figure the cabin is easy pickings for bear because it's really close to the woods, it's not in an open clearing. I figure this will make them bolder.
So far we keep what little trash we make indoors. The problem is that i'm afraid this will invite them in as well. Not much keeping yogi out.
Any thoughts from those that live in true bear country. BTW, this is Nothern Minnesota. Mostly Blck bears here.
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