Many posters have hacked on Glocks on this thread. Lol. If you don't like them, don't buy them. But, I noticed that shooting IDPA and USPSA events, for those guns that are not $2500 race guns, probably 80% in my club are Glocks. Must be something to it. Also, I haven't seen a Glock FTF yet, other than squibs shooting UMC and reloads. I have friend who has a new Kimber with a case through it. It is still so tight that he is afraid to carry it. I put a big old smooch on my G23 every day when I get strapped.