how many rounds have you fired from a pistol grippped shotgun?

how many rounds have you fired from a pistol gripped shotgun?

  • none why the heck would you wanna shoot one of those

    Votes: 71 36.6%

  • a few

    Votes: 53 27.3%

  • 25-50

    Votes: 28 14.4%

  • 51-100

    Votes: 35 18.0%

  • a whole lota rounds becuse i cant hit anything with the darn thing with a pistol grip

    Votes: 7 3.6%
  • Total voters
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I had a pistol grip on my Moss 500 and that was a big mistake. The only good thing that came out of it was I was able to sell the Pachmayr pistol grip, yet still keep the Pachmayer forearm that is thick rubberized for a good tight grip.

I put an adjustible standard Choate stock on it (the one with various thicknerss spacers between the stock and recoil pad). Now, I can have the gun ready for shooting with a T-Shirt, and if I am hunting with it in winter, I can remove some spacers (in about five minutes) to make the rear stock fit me with thick clothes.

I don't like the M4 type adjustible stocks. For a 12 gauge, they seem a bit flimsy to me. That's why I prefer the stock I got.
 
I've shot maybe 150 rounds out of a friend's 870 with a folded Butler Creek stock, I was able to shoot it with decent speed and accurate once I started putting in front of my mug and looking down the sights but I'd always prefer to use the stock normally.
 
You weren't specific in the thread title. Pistol Grip only, or Pistol Grip w/ stock? I prefer to a pistol grip w/ stock to any other option, unless of course I'm shooting trap/skeet.
 
The only times I have shot a pistol grip shotgun was during some CQB training blowing off door locks and door hinges. BIG fun :).

The rounds we used were called Shok-Lok, basically powdered tin bonded under pressure into a cylindrical shaped slug. Put the smackdown on the locks and hinges and our instructors said on people they acted like a gigantic Glaser Safety Slug.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
I'm a fan of the PGO shotguns but I don't recommend most people use them because they seldom shoot enough to get competent with it.

I am a big fan of (good) gun mounted lasers, I have them on all my defense guns. This is typical of what you can do in low light with the laser equipped PGO shotgun firing quickly from the hip.

The #4 and 00 Buckshot was fired from 17 yards. The slugs in the BG's butt and the small target were fired from 26 yards. Gun was a 20 inch barrel 870.
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#4 Buckshot and slug at 7 yards using Streamlight TLR-2 laser light on a PGO Rem 870.
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A while back I wanted to see just how fast and accurate you could be with the PGO shotgun firing from the hip (no laser).

Each time I started with the gun (Ithaca 37 12 ga) pointed down and to the side. Chamber empty. 6 clay birds randomly thrown on the berm. I didn't choose which 3 birds to aim for until the timer went off. I randomly shot at 7-10 and 15 yards, switching distance every 3 shots.

The outcome surprised me quite a bit. I only missed a few birds and the timing was actually faster and the accuracy was better than I do with a pistol.


A couple days later I ran the same drill with a full stock 20 inch Rem 870.
I hit every bird but my time was slightly slower.

IMO the PGO shotgun has it's uses and can be quite deadly in the hands of someone that knows how to use it, but it's not a gun for most people.
 
Shoot a pistol grip only (PGO) equipped shotgun like you do a handgun from retention position: hold the pistol grip against the side of your chest, your firing hand thumb tucked up underneath your pectoral muscle, your firing arm pointing straight back (not chicken winged) to absorb recoil, and the top of the receiver canted slightly away from your body.
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You know, Shawn, yours could almost have been one of my posts, it's so similar. I've tried to explain the same thing to this and other forums for years.

The chest high, level barrel, below the line of sight point is literally the fastest and easiest way to engage a single or multiple targets in a combat/self defense engagement. 99% of the folks who talk against the pistol grip shotgun use it. Hell, I can watch a guy at the range shoot a hundred fast shots into a target in that same position with a useless butt stock not doing anything....but when you try to explain to him that a pistol grip shotgun works exactly the same way, he can't seem to grasp it.

Great post, sir!

rich
 
Whenever this topic comes up, I feel like I am transported to Trailerpark-Redneckopolis.

"I got me a "breachers grip" but een tho they say its fer breachin, I use it fer defeneden my doublewide"
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Ditto, guess Ill sit the next dozen or so out next month.
 
Thanks, M2 carbine, for your post, but I am afraid that the very strong anti PGO crowd here will ignore it, treat it with disbelief, and insult anyone who does not agree with their inability to employ the PGO shotgun, as in the previous two threads on the subject.
 
The pro-PGO types have got me thinking. PGOs seem commonly available and easy to install - but I only see them on 12-gauges. Would one fit a 20-gauge as long as it was the same model? I'm thinking specifically of the Remington 870 but other models are interesting too.
 
they are easy just use a allen key. to take the stock bolt out you need a socket and a 9 inch extension or screwdriver if you have to.
 
I believe I have above average ability to deploy the PGO shotgun yet I still would rather have a stock. For your reading entertainment here is a link to the now closed thread on this very topic because of bickering.

In it, the OP offers up a challenge to anyone with their PGO shotgun to have a shooting competition with him and his properly stocked shotgun.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=44465

Have at it. I bet no one takes him up on it.
 
In it, the OP offers up a challenge to anyone
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Sounds like you're going out of your way to start the same old "bickering" all over again.

Got anything useful to say?

r
 
Pistol Grip Shotgun... Check.
Cool tactical vest! ... Check.
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In my book the shooters in the clips are one step below an idiot and all appear to have no experience what so ever with any weapon. One clip appears to have been taken at a real gun range--where was the range officer.

I suggest the OP qualify the question and add: How many people with gun shooting experience have ever shot a PGO shotgun. PGO means a shotgun with a pistol grip in lieu of a butt stock. My Mossberg 500 has a PG at both ends.
 
chevyforlife21 -- how many rounds have you fired from a pistol gripped shotgun? was it yours or "were you just holding it for a friend"?
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When you ask about a pistol grip do you mean the deep curved grip that you'd find on a wooden stock--usually competition guns so equipped?

Or do you mean the grip that you'd find on an AR as found on the Saiga or Benelli M4 or Remington 11-87 Turkey gun? Which is what I believed it to be and voted such as I shot a round of trap and one of skeet with one...

Or do you mean the pistol grip that you'd find on a breaching gun, with no stock behind it or with a folding stock whether up, down or to the side--which a number of posters have commented on?
 
2 things about pistol-grip shotguns:

1. I just don't care for them, for whatever reason.

2. Perhaps the only time I ever fired one-- and this is NOT the reason I don't like them-- was with a friend's semi-auto Mossberg. I fired a 3" magnum with one hand and the gun turned completely around in my hand upon recoil, so that the barrel was just a few inches away from my head.

Just dumb.
 
Sounds like you're going out of your way to start the same old "bickering" all over again.

Got anything useful to say?
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Sure...

I believe I have above average ability to deploy the PGO shotgun yet I still would rather have a stock. For your reading entertainment here is a link to the now closed thread on this very topic because of bickering.

In it, the OP offers up a challenge to anyone with their PGO shotgun to have a shooting competition with him and his properly stocked shotgun.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=44465

Have at it. I bet no one takes him up on it.
 
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