How many sales have the plastic sights cost Glock?

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Well, I recently bought a SA XD-9 because of certain factors. I was undecided between the Glock 19 and the XD-9. It seems like you get actually more for your money in an XD than in a Glock. I have not shot it yet but the fact that it has steel sights was a small factor in me choosing it over the Glock.

When I look at the Glock, I see certain aspects of the gun that were made to save money and not to improve function. The plastic sights are one of the things they didn't bother to spend any thought or money on. It becomes almost manditory that you have to replace those things. I like fixed sight on a self defense pistol and I don't see why I should have to spend an extra $30-90 for a set of fixed steel combat sights just to replace something that should have been made of steel in the first place.

It is not just about sights, the slide release lever is made out of stamped sheet metal! :barf: How cheap can you get? When you take a Glock apart, there is nothing in there that says to me that it is worth what they ask for them. They are not junk, they work but they just didn't add a penny worth of cost if they could get away with it.

SIGs ARE made with better materials. Aluminum and steel is better than plastic in my book. They are more expensive at least and that was my point. SIGs are made with expensive materials like aluminum and steel and coiled wire recoil springs and glocks are made of steel, plastic and sheet metal stampings.

I am not just bashing Glock here, I almost bought one and I may still buy one if I get a good deal on a G-19 but I still don't think they are worth the prices being asked. Glock 19s run about $550 for a standard one near me. I can get a SIG for $650! I don't like SIGs otherwise I would own one of each model since I think they are one of the best production guns on the market. Unfortunatly they don't fit me as well as some other guns but I envy the people the feel SIGs are a perfect fit for them. On paper, SIGs are everything I like but the high bore axis and the long trigger reach in DA and a few other things make them less than ideal for me. The SA XD seems to out-Glock Glock. I may be jumping the gun since I have never even fired an XD but the ergos are great, Glock ergos are a joke. The only good thing about the Glock ergos is the grip angle. Most peole hate the grip angle but I like it, I wish all guns had more angle like the Glock.

One other reason I chose not to buy a Glock, I didn't want to join the ranks of these "Glock Heads" that take offense if you question a design point or state that there could be a possible flaw in the great pistol's design. They are like religious zealots, it is heresy to question anything. Well, I'm an American and we like to question things. We like to shake things up a bit. We also don't like people trying to stop us from being free to ask what we want to ask. In a way, Glock fanatics are a little scary. I didn't know if I was ready to join the Glock Cult yet. :evil:
 
Rockstar wrote:
"With proper respect for albanian's marketing expertise, I'd say that the plastic sights are a non-issue from a marketing standpoint. Glock sells every pistol that they manufacture.

Same response for albanian's "theory" that Glocks cost too much."
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Glock sells every pistol that they manufacture? Really? So does Hi-Point. I gues that makes Hi-Point as good as a Glock? :rolleyes: As long as you can sell your guns, I guess there is no reason to make any improvments. I find this attitude interesting because "Rockstar" and Glock seem to share this point of view. I can understand why Glock would not want to make improvements. As long as they can sell their guns, why cut into profits just to giv ethe customer a better product?

Well, I got new for Glock, if you don't start making some improvements soon, you are going to be passed on by by more forward thinking gun companies. it is already happening. With the end of the AWB, there is only going to be more and more hi-cap pistols on the market and one of them is going to replace the Glock as the next best thing.
 
Eh...

My Walther P99C came standard with plastic sights.
It comes with several front sights of varrying heights - all plastic.

What irritated me about them is that they seem to be softer than the polymer used for the frame. They scratch up pretty easily.

As for missed Glock sales - I never even thought about it.

My Glock 19 got Mepros when I bought it.
My current carry piece (a Glock 26) got a set of XS 24/7 Big Dots the day I bought it.

I also own some HK P7s, a Kimber CDP Pro, and others. Some get different sights, some don't.

It doesn't bother me at all.
 
The majority of people I have met that are afraid of buying or carring a Glock are in this condition because of reading all the BS on the internet and from being ignorant of their design.

They assume the Glock is a single action and they are worried that somehow it can fire without a trigger pull.

It does not help that so many very ignorant people on gun boards and in gunshops tell them the Glock is a single action.
 
Imho, plastic sights shouldn't really be an issue since most folks end up instaling trijicons or meprolights anyway.
 
how many sales has the grip safety cost Springfield

I like the XDs, but do not like the grip safety. If I didn't like CZs more than either of those, I'd probably buy the Glock over the XD.
 
the slide release lever is made out of stamped sheet metal
I'll take a stamping of honest rolled steel over the MIM crap most other manufacturers are using any day.

The (fixed) rear plastic sights of the Glock are fine. I've never heard of one needing to be replaced or falling out. I don't like the white outline, though, so I turn it around backwards.

Yes, the front plastic post is a POS. I yank it out with a pair of pliers and install a $10 steel post w/white-dot from Ameriglo (even comes with its own nut driver). That's all the help my Glock ever gets (or needs).
 
I'll take a stamping of honest rolled steel over the MIM crap most other manufacturers are using any day

So would I. I have never seen a Glock slide stop break or fail in any way.

I have seen at least four MIM slide stops break on high dollar Kimbers.
 
My Glock sights isnt in the rear its on the front of the pistol's nose.

Dont look like its bolted down it looks like its part of the glock slide.
 
Albanian: Thanks for a few laughs. I'd respond to your last post, but just don't find much sport in shooting fish in a barrel. ;)

Oh, hope you never have to pass a test that requires an understanding of analogies. I have "new"(sic) for you, you be failin'! :p
 
I have the standard "plastic sights" on my Glock 19. I shoot about 300 rounds per week at the range with a lot of it being drawn from a kydex holster. I shoot an IDPA indoor match every week. At least two IDPA matches outdoors every month plus some side shoots.

I cannot even begin to count the draws from holster and I have zero wear or defects from my stock plastic sights.

Trust your actual experience and not something you read in a gun mag or on the web!
 
Gotta believe that not many people buy or don't buy a handgun because of the sights.

Next to grips, I'll bet that sights are the most often customized aspect of a handgun.

I'll bet that the people who decide whether or not to purchase a gun based on the sights are about as numerous as the people who decide whether or not to purchase a gun based on the grips.
 
Not many, I suspect. People buy new cars/trucks with perfectly good/functional tires/wheels and then make whatever changes in order to "personalize" their rides. I think the same things happen when many folks buy their guns.
 
Of course with the XD, you won't have to

You won't have to with Glocks either. The LE's I've talked to would prefer, if the unlikely case ever did occur though, the ability to use one handed techniques.


I personally see the grip safety on an XD as unnecessary. That being said, I did try one last year and XDs are bulkier than Glocks. The XD would not fit in my vest that conceals a Glock 17 just fine.
 
I own both the XD and Glocks.

The XD is more like the 1911 than the Glock. It is a single action pistol with a grip angle and grip safety like the 1911 but without the reliability problems of todays 1911.
 
I personally see the grip safety on an XD as unnecessary.

I agree to some degree. I don't think it prevents AD's as much as some people think it does.

But the grip safety on the XD will never give you a problem like it does on some older 1911's. No matter how you grip the XD while firing it the grip safety will allow the pistol to fire so I don't mind it being there.
 
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