I was attacked by a dog in 1990. I fired 5 rounds of 38 special hitting the dog 3 times with zero effect. hitting the dog in the mid section just angered the dog more. My 6th and final shot was fired instinctively from waist high and hit between the eyes just as the dogs charge was few feet from me. I can tell you all my target shooting experience went out the window. I could not make that shot today in practice and to this day can only tell you instinct took over. If I had not made that last shot I am sure I would have been mauled to death. Sights are good if you have time to use them. Gunfights are often fast and lightning quick
How to fight attacking dog?
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Fred Fuller
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Pit bulls - the "assault weapon" of dog breeds...
Depending on the media to 'get it right' about dog breeds is much like depending on them to get it right about firearms.
Depending on the media to 'get it right' about dog breeds is much like depending on them to get it right about firearms.
Consider this stolen! Great metaphor.
DaisyCutter
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I've come to the conclusion that I've never seen an actual pitbull in my entire life. In fact, I don't think they exist.
There is no breed standard according to earlier posts.
Jeez...
The dog that did this is a pitbull:
Here he is, next to his victim:
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL639/2678265/21047685/396910225.jpg
The german shepherd actually isn't a proper german shepherd either. They are both randomly bred barrio dogs, intact males, poorly socialized, neglected and abused.
I show 100 people in my beat that second picture and ask "What breeds of dog?", all 100 will say german shepherd and pitbull. Nobody will guess "lab" or "chihuahua" or "poodle".
If people unanimously decide to call it a "cupcake", then that's what it is in plain speak. It's a pitbull.
Everyone knows a "white tank-top-style undershirt" is called a "wife beater". It's not correct, but that's what people call it.
The fact of the matter is that a certain style of canine was selectively bred and abused to make it violent. The low income people where I work, prefer these dogs, and propagate the problem. These people are illiterate, on welfare, perpetually drunk, and they won't differentiate a "Dogo Argentino" from a "pitbull", which apparently isn't even recognized by AKC.
Any dog, a couple generations removed from the neglect and abuse, and appropriately trained can be a fine dog, regardless of how it looks. I don't prejudge "pitbulls". I've rescued and rehomed pitbulls. I've grabbed a handful of courage and dragged a pitbull with a gunshot wound onto a blanket and lifted it's bloody dying carcass into my patrol car and transported it to the emergency vet.
My 14 year old mutt is a Chow/German-Shepherd mix. He's predisposed to breed prejudice. My next dog will probably be a Doberman or Rottie. I'll find one with an appropriate disposition and care for it and it will never be a problem.
Use your instincts when dealing with dogs.
There is no breed standard according to earlier posts.
Jeez...
The dog that did this is a pitbull:
Here he is, next to his victim:
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL639/2678265/21047685/396910225.jpg
The german shepherd actually isn't a proper german shepherd either. They are both randomly bred barrio dogs, intact males, poorly socialized, neglected and abused.
I show 100 people in my beat that second picture and ask "What breeds of dog?", all 100 will say german shepherd and pitbull. Nobody will guess "lab" or "chihuahua" or "poodle".
If people unanimously decide to call it a "cupcake", then that's what it is in plain speak. It's a pitbull.
Everyone knows a "white tank-top-style undershirt" is called a "wife beater". It's not correct, but that's what people call it.
The fact of the matter is that a certain style of canine was selectively bred and abused to make it violent. The low income people where I work, prefer these dogs, and propagate the problem. These people are illiterate, on welfare, perpetually drunk, and they won't differentiate a "Dogo Argentino" from a "pitbull", which apparently isn't even recognized by AKC.
Any dog, a couple generations removed from the neglect and abuse, and appropriately trained can be a fine dog, regardless of how it looks. I don't prejudge "pitbulls". I've rescued and rehomed pitbulls. I've grabbed a handful of courage and dragged a pitbull with a gunshot wound onto a blanket and lifted it's bloody dying carcass into my patrol car and transported it to the emergency vet.
My 14 year old mutt is a Chow/German-Shepherd mix. He's predisposed to breed prejudice. My next dog will probably be a Doberman or Rottie. I'll find one with an appropriate disposition and care for it and it will never be a problem.
Use your instincts when dealing with dogs.
1911Tuner
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Daisy Cutter...
If the other dog in your earlier picture is the dog that killed the Shepherd mix...sorry...that's not a Pitbull. Hard to tell, but going by the head size and shape, and the general body type...maybe a Dogo-Lab or Shepherd mix, but not a Pit. Pitbulls don't get that big.
I stopped trying to address statements like this one a long time ago...but I'll try one more time.
American Pitbull Terriers aren't violent, nor are they normally human aggressive, and only a few real Pits can be induced to be dog-aggressive. What they are is loyal and extremely eager to please, which makes then a snap to train. They don't fight because they're mean or aggressive. They fight because they think that's what their master wants them to do.
Cross an APBT with the larger, aggressive AmStaff...that can be steered into dog or human aggression...and show them that's what you want them to do, and the eager to please Pit side will do it, and he'll be extremely efficient at mayhem on whatever the master indicates the target is.
Which sorta proves my point. Few people can reliably identify a Pitbull when they're lookin' straight at one. To the general public, if it even resembles a Pitbull, they'll say it's a Pitbull. Show'em a dorsal fin out past the breakers...and it might be a Dolphin or a Marlin...but they'll yell "Shark!" every time.
There is a breed standard. It's just that the AKC can't agree on what the breed standard should be...other than gentleness and loyalty. The breed standard has become so adulterized due to slob cross breeding, I doubt if there are more than a hundred real Pitbulls in my whole county. I know two breeders who have kept it pure. The waiting list for their dogs is long...and prospective buyers are subject to a background checks and are required to provide three letters of recommendation. Any hint of career criminal activity, animal abuse...or any connection to dog fighting, no matter how loose or how long separated...they don't get a dog.
One of them is coming this weekend to have a look at the female that I took in 3 weeks ago to see if she's one of his. After seeing her picture, he called and told me that he thinks that she is. Her coloration and temperament are in line with his dogs, so there's a chance that I've got a 2,000-dollar dog here.
If the other dog in your earlier picture is the dog that killed the Shepherd mix...sorry...that's not a Pitbull. Hard to tell, but going by the head size and shape, and the general body type...maybe a Dogo-Lab or Shepherd mix, but not a Pit. Pitbulls don't get that big.
I stopped trying to address statements like this one a long time ago...but I'll try one more time.
American Pitbull Terriers aren't violent, nor are they normally human aggressive, and only a few real Pits can be induced to be dog-aggressive. What they are is loyal and extremely eager to please, which makes then a snap to train. They don't fight because they're mean or aggressive. They fight because they think that's what their master wants them to do.
Cross an APBT with the larger, aggressive AmStaff...that can be steered into dog or human aggression...and show them that's what you want them to do, and the eager to please Pit side will do it, and he'll be extremely efficient at mayhem on whatever the master indicates the target is.
Which sorta proves my point. Few people can reliably identify a Pitbull when they're lookin' straight at one. To the general public, if it even resembles a Pitbull, they'll say it's a Pitbull. Show'em a dorsal fin out past the breakers...and it might be a Dolphin or a Marlin...but they'll yell "Shark!" every time.
There is a breed standard. It's just that the AKC can't agree on what the breed standard should be...other than gentleness and loyalty. The breed standard has become so adulterized due to slob cross breeding, I doubt if there are more than a hundred real Pitbulls in my whole county. I know two breeders who have kept it pure. The waiting list for their dogs is long...and prospective buyers are subject to a background checks and are required to provide three letters of recommendation. Any hint of career criminal activity, animal abuse...or any connection to dog fighting, no matter how loose or how long separated...they don't get a dog.
One of them is coming this weekend to have a look at the female that I took in 3 weeks ago to see if she's one of his. After seeing her picture, he called and told me that he thinks that she is. Her coloration and temperament are in line with his dogs, so there's a chance that I've got a 2,000-dollar dog here.
1911Tuner
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And while you're contemplating all that, here's your "violent" Pitbull. This one was rescued from a fight breeder in my area. I was in the process of having him busted when he departed in the middle of the night, leaving this one behind for reasons unknown.
She stood ready to do battle with any dog that she saw for a while. Once she came to understand that I didn't want her to fight, this is been her normal activity with the others ever since. She's also loyal and devoted to me almost to the point of obsession, and searches the house until she finds me.
She and the new Pit have also become joined at the hip, and play like puppies. If one nips the other a little too hard, the apologies start with much licking and grooming.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=8604876&postcount=49
She stood ready to do battle with any dog that she saw for a while. Once she came to understand that I didn't want her to fight, this is been her normal activity with the others ever since. She's also loyal and devoted to me almost to the point of obsession, and searches the house until she finds me.
She and the new Pit have also become joined at the hip, and play like puppies. If one nips the other a little too hard, the apologies start with much licking and grooming.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=8604876&postcount=49
R.W.Dale
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What I've learned reading this thread.
According to one side any dog with wide shoulders and a pug nose is an insane beast just waiting on the first oppurtunity to taste human blood.
To the other side if a fighting dog gets loose and tries to eat your face off its YOUR fault for not being educated on the finer points of the AKC regeneration process.
That and attacking dogs apparently like a suprise anal probing about as little as you'd expect.
I think I have a more suitable dog pic to share
posted via that mobile app with the sig lines everyone complains about
According to one side any dog with wide shoulders and a pug nose is an insane beast just waiting on the first oppurtunity to taste human blood.
To the other side if a fighting dog gets loose and tries to eat your face off its YOUR fault for not being educated on the finer points of the AKC regeneration process.
That and attacking dogs apparently like a suprise anal probing about as little as you'd expect.
I think I have a more suitable dog pic to share
posted via that mobile app with the sig lines everyone complains about
1911Tuner
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Did you know...
That a real fight-bred dog may not, under an circumstances, show any hint of aggression toward a human being. Because the fighting ring must include a handler that is almost always unknown to the dogs...the dogs must immediately submit to the handler's signals and commands once the two fighters are broken apart. Otherwise, the handlers couldn't be in the ring with the dogs. Such a dog is useless, because when word gets around, he's permanently barred from participating...and word does get around.
Human aggterssion is considered a serious flaw and any dog that so much as growls at a human is immediately removed from the gene pool, either by neutering or death...and usually death.
King Cotton...the King of fighting dogs and grand old man of several bloodlines...was often photographed with small children riding his back. The expression on his face was pure elation.
sgtstryker
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Thank you Mr. Dale, I feel better now..I was waiting for someone to mention the finger thing that Mr. Model brought into this fight,
txnative1951
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Can't seem to post an inline image from Google Drive, but here's two links...
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3yTFUy0qqpZQ0VmM1dObl9tdTA
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3yTFUy0qqpZUUNYMExxaEk4YWM
Probably the most eager to please dog that I've ever had. Gets along with everyone (i.e. no loyalty whatsoever). This is from not too long after we got her. I have trouble getting photos of her now because when she sees the camera, she either runs away, comes too close for the photo that I wanted, or just starts acting like a fool.
Turns out that there is a site that takes the Google Drive share links and gives you a link to the actual image. Trying it out...
Works! www.gdriveurl.com
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3yTFUy0qqpZQ0VmM1dObl9tdTA
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3yTFUy0qqpZUUNYMExxaEk4YWM
Probably the most eager to please dog that I've ever had. Gets along with everyone (i.e. no loyalty whatsoever). This is from not too long after we got her. I have trouble getting photos of her now because when she sees the camera, she either runs away, comes too close for the photo that I wanted, or just starts acting like a fool.
Turns out that there is a site that takes the Google Drive share links and gives you a link to the actual image. Trying it out...
Works! www.gdriveurl.com
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1911Tuner
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Oh, she's loyal. It's just that she sees somebody new to play with and she can't contain herself. Typical.
Also typical. Flippin' goober dogs.
Guillermo
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as a radKIDS instructor we teach kids to "feed your backpack" to the dog.
Anything that you can use to keep the dog at distance is a good thing.
Many dogs make close their eyes which makes them less vulnerable.
Lifting the dog oft "switches" their gears, but sometimes not possible.
The army used to teach to goad an attacking dog to jump and grab a front leg and flip them.
Anything that you can use to keep the dog at distance is a good thing.
Many dogs make close their eyes which makes them less vulnerable.
Lifting the dog oft "switches" their gears, but sometimes not possible.
The army used to teach to goad an attacking dog to jump and grab a front leg and flip them.
txnative1951
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Toss a tennis ball?Ok, so if a Labrador is attacking you, what should you do and not do?
25cschaefer
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Give it a hug because non-aggressive breeds aren't aggressive, the AKC says so.
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Of the 4 times I was rushed by aggressive dogs 3 of them backed off when I went bat s...crazy, yelling like a mad man, rushing toward them, growling, cursing (I was p.o.'d so the anger was genuine). Was that wise? I dunno, but it worked.
When I was younger and less cranky & had a paper route I shot one in the face with a squirt gun full of straight ammonia. That dog never gave me trouble after that and I had to deliver the paper there every day.
I was wondering if shotshells in a pistol would be effective. Less of a chance of injuring innocents with richochets.
When I was younger and less cranky & had a paper route I shot one in the face with a squirt gun full of straight ammonia. That dog never gave me trouble after that and I had to deliver the paper there every day.
I was wondering if shotshells in a pistol would be effective. Less of a chance of injuring innocents with richochets.
Centurian22
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I've only looked over the first two pages of this so if what I say has been covered I apologize. I agree about trying to avoid the situation first, yelling things like "NO, bad dog, go home!" and using a stick to keep distance. If it get into arms length with aggressive intent there are a few things I've heard that may help. I don't advocate intentionally placing your hands near the mouth but assuming other attempts fail and the dog has or is close to biting you: grabbing the lower jaw (or exerting force against it with the body part it has bitten) and pushing down and in towards the dogs chest as hard as you can. The dogs bite force comes more from the top jaw and when the jaws get closed most of the way, keeping them open and causing discomfort can alter the dogs intentions. Also the idea of stuffing fingers as far down the dogs throat and keeping them there as long as possible. I would also be inclined to believe in grabbing and picking up preferably by the throat but by the tail if necessary and throwing or slamming down upon release.
I am a dog lover and owner of four dogs myself (husky, husky-shepard, boxer, and now a beagle puppy). It pains me to think of having to inflict serious injury upon a dog but if left no other choice due to unavoidable danger to myself or my family, serious action must be taken. Side note: of my 'babies' the 14 week old Beagle puppy is the meanest most vicious of them all! Laughable but true.
I am a dog lover and owner of four dogs myself (husky, husky-shepard, boxer, and now a beagle puppy). It pains me to think of having to inflict serious injury upon a dog but if left no other choice due to unavoidable danger to myself or my family, serious action must be taken. Side note: of my 'babies' the 14 week old Beagle puppy is the meanest most vicious of them all! Laughable but true.
1911Tuner
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By far, the stick of adequate length and diameter...about 5ft/5/8ths inch... is the simplest, most efficient means of keeping a dog outside of striking distance. This is why police K9 and similar limited attack dogs are specifically trained to avoid it. The trainers know how well it works.
The dog will lock onto the first thing he comes to...the end of the stick...and he'll keep attacking it in spite of it causing him pain until he realizes that he can't get past it, and that it's causing him more pain with each attempt. Depending on the level of focus and determination, most dogs get it on the first run. Others require two or three attempts.
It accomplishes two important things. It hurts and it breaks his focus on the task at hand. This is most important. Breaking that focus brings him out of his "Red Zone" and provides him with the opportunity to realize that he can't get past it without more pain...and it damages or disables his "Main Gun." The dog instinctively knows that his jaws and teeth are pretty much all he's got, and he'll also instinctively seek to preserve the functionality of that weapon because he knows that without it, he's helpless.
Yelling and scolding the dog often works well enough that the stick isn't necessary, but don't count on it. Yelling and screaming like a wild animal while the stick is being used adds to its effect.
If it does become necessary to use the stick, don't be gentle. Shove it like you're trying to drive it out the other end, and get your legs into it and keep shoving...screaming all the way. Rarely does it require more than once.
A quick story:
One afternoon, SWMBO and I were visiting her mother. A neighbor's dog...a GSD mix...had gotten out of his 10X10 lot. He was almost at the property line. Kelie, being somewhat acquainted with the dog, walked across the line to get his collar and take him back, calling to him by name. The pooch immediately shifted to territory defense mode, and charged...and he was completely serious. As she turned to run, I ran at the dog screaming at the top of my lungs.
His reaction was like somebody had flipped a switch. He stopped in his tracks and stood there looking confused, as though he didn't even realize what had happened. He backed up a few steps, unsure of my intentions...laid down, and rolled over onto his back, reverting back to the friendly neighborhood pet that he'd been for his whole life.
By this time, Kelie was on top of her mother's car, shaking like a leaf. As she climbed down, I led the dog to her, and he greeted her in his normal way...a "Let's Play" bow and much puppy-ish behavior. As I looked at him, I realized that his eyes were cloudy, and he couldn't see very well...which is very likely why he responded to the "trespasser" so aggressively. He simply didn't recognize her at a distance. A conversation later with his owners verified that he was going blind. He could detect movement, but little else at much more than arm's length, and that even they had started calling his name as they approached him to avoid a startled response.
The dog will lock onto the first thing he comes to...the end of the stick...and he'll keep attacking it in spite of it causing him pain until he realizes that he can't get past it, and that it's causing him more pain with each attempt. Depending on the level of focus and determination, most dogs get it on the first run. Others require two or three attempts.
It accomplishes two important things. It hurts and it breaks his focus on the task at hand. This is most important. Breaking that focus brings him out of his "Red Zone" and provides him with the opportunity to realize that he can't get past it without more pain...and it damages or disables his "Main Gun." The dog instinctively knows that his jaws and teeth are pretty much all he's got, and he'll also instinctively seek to preserve the functionality of that weapon because he knows that without it, he's helpless.
Yelling and scolding the dog often works well enough that the stick isn't necessary, but don't count on it. Yelling and screaming like a wild animal while the stick is being used adds to its effect.
If it does become necessary to use the stick, don't be gentle. Shove it like you're trying to drive it out the other end, and get your legs into it and keep shoving...screaming all the way. Rarely does it require more than once.
A quick story:
One afternoon, SWMBO and I were visiting her mother. A neighbor's dog...a GSD mix...had gotten out of his 10X10 lot. He was almost at the property line. Kelie, being somewhat acquainted with the dog, walked across the line to get his collar and take him back, calling to him by name. The pooch immediately shifted to territory defense mode, and charged...and he was completely serious. As she turned to run, I ran at the dog screaming at the top of my lungs.
His reaction was like somebody had flipped a switch. He stopped in his tracks and stood there looking confused, as though he didn't even realize what had happened. He backed up a few steps, unsure of my intentions...laid down, and rolled over onto his back, reverting back to the friendly neighborhood pet that he'd been for his whole life.
By this time, Kelie was on top of her mother's car, shaking like a leaf. As she climbed down, I led the dog to her, and he greeted her in his normal way...a "Let's Play" bow and much puppy-ish behavior. As I looked at him, I realized that his eyes were cloudy, and he couldn't see very well...which is very likely why he responded to the "trespasser" so aggressively. He simply didn't recognize her at a distance. A conversation later with his owners verified that he was going blind. He could detect movement, but little else at much more than arm's length, and that even they had started calling his name as they approached him to avoid a startled response.
rodinal220
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A 5 cell Kel-lite always worked for me in the past.
Magichelmt
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I had a grandmother that took in every stray she found, got them healthy, and found them homes. I am not a trainer or expert in any way, but I have always had dogs around. I grew up in Miami and after hurricane Andrew we had 3.5 months where there was no power and martial law down south. I had many encounters with packs of dogs. Sometimes I could yell " GO HOME!" and no problem. Other times you had to fight them off. I used a plastic trombone case on a couple of large dogs like a golf club once. I don't want to hurt any animal, but I will protect myself. I was to young to carry a gun, but almost anything can be used to defend yourself.
wow6599
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I seem to remember being told to kick or knee them in the chest as hard as possible.
It's their "soft-spot".
It's their "soft-spot".
cluck
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"Assault Dogs"
First, much respect to 1911Tuner for preaching restraint in taking a life with a firearm whether animal or human. It is a massive decision, and it has to happen sometimes in split seconds. Guido is a 1 1/2 yo brindle italian mastiff (??) we adopted from a local shelter in March of 2012. He is often mistaken for a "Pit Bull" in public. He has an intimidating "look" (sound familiar). He is INCREDIBLY protective of my kids to the point that even if I'm rough housing with my son, he gets involved by barking and gently grabbing my arms and clothing. All he ever wants is to be wherever I am. Super smart. He took to clicker training far quicker than my 8 yo Vizsla. He is wary of strangers and that makes most people wary of him. If his look is a deterrent to crime, great. All I know is, he is a sweet boy who wants nothing more than to plop his hulking head in my lap and cuddle on the couch. Pet ownership has very much the same responsibilities as parenthood. Sending your pets out into the world without training and structure is like sending your kids out into the world without training and structure. There are dangerous people and dangerous pets out there and ultimately I feel if we keep our heads on a swivel and stay situationally aware, we can avoid conflict with both. If you find yourself unable to avoid that charging "Pitty" (or any other canine that might be frightened, injured, disoriented) or more likely, a charging meth head, or "bath salts" junkie, your training better be in order. If you can draw from concealment and fire in less than 2 seconds, remember, a determined human attacker can cover 10 feet in ~1 second. (I know this highly subjective and I'm sure there are some cowboys is this community that are much faster than that)Chances are, a dog is even faster. Point is, your training better be spot on for fast, close quarter, small moving target. I've had dogs all my life and all of them to the end of their lives. Many to the age of 16. One thing I've learned: "Alpha" posturing goes a long way.
First, much respect to 1911Tuner for preaching restraint in taking a life with a firearm whether animal or human. It is a massive decision, and it has to happen sometimes in split seconds. Guido is a 1 1/2 yo brindle italian mastiff (??) we adopted from a local shelter in March of 2012. He is often mistaken for a "Pit Bull" in public. He has an intimidating "look" (sound familiar). He is INCREDIBLY protective of my kids to the point that even if I'm rough housing with my son, he gets involved by barking and gently grabbing my arms and clothing. All he ever wants is to be wherever I am. Super smart. He took to clicker training far quicker than my 8 yo Vizsla. He is wary of strangers and that makes most people wary of him. If his look is a deterrent to crime, great. All I know is, he is a sweet boy who wants nothing more than to plop his hulking head in my lap and cuddle on the couch. Pet ownership has very much the same responsibilities as parenthood. Sending your pets out into the world without training and structure is like sending your kids out into the world without training and structure. There are dangerous people and dangerous pets out there and ultimately I feel if we keep our heads on a swivel and stay situationally aware, we can avoid conflict with both. If you find yourself unable to avoid that charging "Pitty" (or any other canine that might be frightened, injured, disoriented) or more likely, a charging meth head, or "bath salts" junkie, your training better be in order. If you can draw from concealment and fire in less than 2 seconds, remember, a determined human attacker can cover 10 feet in ~1 second. (I know this highly subjective and I'm sure there are some cowboys is this community that are much faster than that
)Chances are, a dog is even faster. Point is, your training better be spot on for fast, close quarter, small moving target. I've had dogs all my life and all of them to the end of their lives. Many to the age of 16. One thing I've learned: "Alpha" posturing goes a long way.Attachments
thought provoking
I have been fortunate that I have only been nipped by a lap dog a time or two, but dog diplomacy and defense seems like a worthwhile study. This article seems to bring further experience to the discussion
http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=337
I do sometimes use trekking poles, but I don't trust them to stand up to much thrusting. Even collapsed or bent, however, they would sure be better than a fist. I wonder about pens, keys or multi-tool in eyes, neck or back of skull. Would noise, such as an air horn, have any deterrent effect?
I do appreciate the wisdom lent by those with experience, and am glad to see we weathered the "bad breed" derail.
I have been fortunate that I have only been nipped by a lap dog a time or two, but dog diplomacy and defense seems like a worthwhile study. This article seems to bring further experience to the discussion
http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=337
I do sometimes use trekking poles, but I don't trust them to stand up to much thrusting. Even collapsed or bent, however, they would sure be better than a fist. I wonder about pens, keys or multi-tool in eyes, neck or back of skull. Would noise, such as an air horn, have any deterrent effect?
I do appreciate the wisdom lent by those with experience, and am glad to see we weathered the "bad breed" derail.
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I was attacked by a 110-lb. male who lunged for one of my dogs as we were all in the presence of other females.
I gave him my right forearm, which he promptly put two deep puncture (tooth) marks in, which they couldn't sew up later at the emergency room. But I picked him up with my left hand, grabbing a handful of hair, and slammed him to the ground, and slid my right forearm (now out of his mouth) across his throat, pinning him to the ground. We were literally face to face. Thank goodness he went docile almost immediately. If h hadn't, I would have picked him up and rammed his head into the side of my house to kill him.
I had a Benchmade folder on me but had neither the time nor the presence of mind to use it. I went with "brute force" and gross motor skills to end the attack as quickly as possible.
I gave him my right forearm, which he promptly put two deep puncture (tooth) marks in, which they couldn't sew up later at the emergency room. But I picked him up with my left hand, grabbing a handful of hair, and slammed him to the ground, and slid my right forearm (now out of his mouth) across his throat, pinning him to the ground. We were literally face to face. Thank goodness he went docile almost immediately. If h hadn't, I would have picked him up and rammed his head into the side of my house to kill him.
I had a Benchmade folder on me but had neither the time nor the presence of mind to use it. I went with "brute force" and gross motor skills to end the attack as quickly as possible.
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