Hunter education programs halted by Biden

[Ignition Override]

Old Hobo: Yes.

A friend left Essen Germany in 1985 to settle in west TN after attending a now-defunct aviation school (for foreign students) in Bolivar TN.

He hasn't visited his home country in years, and doesn't want to. But he's visiting Austria and Nord Tirol in December-Jan.
So many "Professional Anarchists/radicals" are over there ; they have it down to a science: & Paid by which countries?.

Remember reading days ago about the very fed-up Lady German driver who twice pulled a nitwit blocking her street....pulled her Twice-- By The Hair? Ja mein Liebling , immer weiter ! Abschaffung der Links-Radikalen !

And the extremely inconvenienced German truck driver who used his truck's flat bumper (which reaches to the ground), to slowly Push a protestor blocking a German road?

The anarchists here are carefully watching and learning tactics from the lunatics in western Europe, funded largely by a Billionaire US citizen who absolutely hates his country (what's His Excuse?).

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

That an adult in the US is unaware of Citizens United is simply pathetic.

It's good to be really really old.

That’s funny. Previously you said, “silly as long as Citizens United is not repealed,” but “Citizens United vs FEC” was a court case, not a law of Congress. Before insulting others you might want to consider your own pathetic ignorance. SCOTUS decisions and case law cannot be “repealed.” Not under the Constitution. The old Duma, perhaps.

 

[Wolfshead]

I’m a retired Physical Education Teacher and Football Coach.
I was a certified NASP Instructor and I taught an “Outdoors“class.
The school I taught at was a small rural school with a lower socioeconomic background, over 65% free or reduced lunch.
When we began our archery unit we would have students extremely afraid to even try and hold a bow, because they were afraid that they would get hurt or hurt someone.
we had a female student who refused the first day to pick up a bow off the rack. By the end of the unit she told us she had asked her Dad to get her a bow.
Archery was one of our most popular units and the large majority of our students didn’t want it to end. They had learned how to use a bow safely, and that if they did no one would get hurt or injured.

Take that experience away and they continue to be afraid of something that shoots. If you’re afraid of something that shoots you’re more likely to vote against that thing that shoots.
If you’re afraid of a bow imagine how afraid of a firearm you’ll be….

i believe it’s another way to attack the second amendment. Keep those in fear and they’re more likely to vote against what they fear!

 

[buck460XVR]

This was a law passed by a huge majority in both houses. Even when I went to High School back in the 60's, Hunter Safety was never taught there. You had to pay and go to a DNR held class. Still that way today. I do not see hunting itself impacted by this much at all. Our High School does have an archery class in it's ESS program, hope this doesn't affect it. I'll have to ask the ESS teacher that teaches it, if it does.

Old saying:

"The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do."

Not that old. This is a quote by Joseph Stalin. Maybe your hero, not mine. Seemed to be the war cry of the "Big Lie" folks. We all know how true that has turned out to be..........

 

[jar]

That’s funny. Previously you said, “silly as long as Citizens United is not repealed,” but “Citizens United vs FEC” was a court case, not a law of Congress. Before insulting others you might want to consider your own pathetic ignorance. SCOTUS decisions and case law cannot be “repealed.” Not under the Constitution. The old Duma, perhaps.

I never said it was a court case but only that it is the real problem.

You wanted oligarchy you got oligarchy. I'm old though and tired so it's NMP.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I never said it was a court case but only that it is the real problem.

You wanted oligarchy you got oligarchy. I'm old though and tired so it's NMP.

I want the Republican form of government we were promised, not the Democracy we were warned to avoid. As long as we have people who think SCOTUS decisions can be repealed, that’s not going to happen. We will just keep falling into tyranny at an ever-increasing rate.
The Executive branch is deliberately and with malicious intent misinterpreting hunter education as promoting the illegal use of dangerous weapons. The Executive Branch has an obligation to take the intent of legislation into account before creating enforcement policy. The Congress did not express any intention to paint hunting as an exercise in illegal activity.
But you’re old and tired and have a closed mind. Did you vote for Roosevelt? Did you vote for LBJ? Do you think the people who did knew they were voting for American Communism? Did you vote to replace the Republic with a Social Democracy?

 

[lightman]

Wat to go Joe! Cut your nose off to spite your face!

 

[jar]

I want the Republican form of government we were promised, not the Democracy we were warned to avoid. As long as we have people who think SCOTUS decisions can be repealed, that’s not going to happen. We will just keep falling into tyranny at an ever-increasing rate.
The Executive branch is deliberately and with malicious intent misinterpreting hunter education as promoting the illegal use of dangerous weapons. The Executive Branch has an obligation to take the intent of legislation into account before creating enforcement policy. The Congress did not express any intention to paint hunting as an exercise in illegal activity.
But you’re old and tired and have a closed mind. Did you vote for Roosevelt? Did you vote for LBJ? Do you think the people who did knew they were voting for American Communism? Did you vote to replace the Republic with a Social Democracy?

Nope, didn't vote for Teddy or Franklin but did campaign for Ike. Unfortunately I also voted for Nixon which was a big mistake. And to suggest that voting for Franklin or LBJ was voting for communism is just worthy of a small chuckle.

 

[doubleh]

I say "they" because it is Biden's puppet-masters who are running the White House.

I agree with this but if ol' lettucehead was in possession of any of his faculties he would still do the same. He has never been a friend to the Constitution.

 

[d2wing]

Hmm, when I was an instructor DNR gun safety classes were taught in schools in many towns. Some towns used armory's. Several schools in my area have trap shooting teams. I wonder how that is going to work. Like JMR40 said. DNR gun safety is mostly online now. I haven't been involved since to 90's.

 

[FL-NC]

I remember in HS (early 80s) we did archery on the football field with recurve bows. Somehow we managed to do this without impaling anyone. Isn't hunter's education the epitome of "gun safety"? I thought "gun safety" was the latest craze? Now I'm so confused I may never recover.

 

[Choctaw]

I remember in HS (early 80s) we did archery on the football field with recurve bows. Somehow we managed to do this without impaling anyone. Isn't hunter's education the epitome of "gun safety"? I thought "gun safety" was the latest craze? Now I'm so confused I may never recover.

We used to boresight rifles in our ag shop. Biden would have a conniption about that as well.

 

[MrShooter]

We used to boresight rifles in our ag shop. Biden would have a conniption about that as well.

I showed the guys in my HS ag shop how to fill a baggie with oxygen and acetylene, and toss into a welding booth. The instructor didn't think it was as funny as the rest of the class! Almost got a vacation over that one.

 

[Choctaw]

I showed the guys in my HS ag shop how to fill a baggie with oxygen and acetylene, and toss into a welding booth. The instructor didn't think it was as funny as the rest of the class! Almost got a vacation over that one.

In today's world you would be in alternative school until you were 30. lol

 

[SSN Vet]

Having been an official dumb arse kid, who managed to get into lots of trouble with BB and pellet guns, I'm very, very, thankful that my dad made me take hunters ed. class before letting me get my first shotgun. They taught me to respect guns as serious tools and mended my errant ways. The class probably saved my life, as I never had an ND or gun related accident.

 

[JTHunter]

One of my HS teachers had us do the "hunter safety" course during the semester. This was back in the "dark ages" of '69-'70 so I doubt they still do that.

 

[12Bravo20]

I know the high school I went to had Conservation and Safety as an elective course at least up to 1996 (when my brother graduated). Part of the Conservation and Safety class was also taking and passing the Mo Dept. of Conservation Hunter's Safety Course. We also did archery back behind the school with woods behind the targets. Our gym teacher would allows us to bring our compound bows in so we could make sure they were sighted in before archery season opened. I graduated in 1990 and pretty much every truck had a shotgun and rifle in the back window and those that drove cars and both in the trunks.

 

[Speedo66]

. I graduated in 1910 and pretty much every truck had a shotgun and rifle in the back window and those that drove cars and both in the trunks.

You’re a lot older than I thought you were.

 

[12Bravo20]

You’re a lot older than I thought you were.

Dang arthritic fingers got me again. I corrected my last reply. I graduated in 1990.

 

[rem700nut]

in the 70's in West Virginia when i was in High School .every year in gym class in the gym they would set up targets and everyone would practace shooting Bow and arrows inside during the winter . , for two or three weeks , our gym was built out of sandstone rocks by the 1930's CCC no arrow was going to go thru that rock wall was same inside as outside ,no dry wall .the game warden would come to gym class every year and teach hunter and shooting safety classes. our School library every month got the monthly addition of Guns and Ammo and shooting times magazine ,and 2 or 3 differant hunting magazines for us boys to read .sadley ,I bet they don do any of that now

 

[buck460XVR]

in the 70's in West Virginia when i was in High School .every year in gym class in the gym they would set up targets and everyone would practace shooting Bow and arrows inside during the winter .

Our local High School still has an archery class. We are located about 15 minutes from the home of Matthew's Bow's. They donate all the bows and update them regularly. Besides shooting indoors in the gym(protective netting), they also do a day or so of shooting Flu-Flu arrows on the football field in a type of competitive horseshoes....and yes, sprinkler heads/lines are sometimes destroyed. Many of the students would have no other introduction to archery without this class, and many turn this learning experience into a lifelong hobby. I would surely hate to see this disappear. We also have the soldiers from the local military base come once a year and do a day where those same kids get to experience shooting at each other with the same training equipment as the military uses. This includes reduced power bows shooting arrows with sponge balls for tips and the wearing of protective gear. Similar to paintball, but with bows and arrows.