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Hyatt Hotels Anti-2A...Find another place to stay

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by Paladin7, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. Paladin7

    Paladin7 Well-Known Member

    Friends and Fellow Patriots,

    I just returned from a trip to Chicago where I stayed at the Hyatt McCormick Place. When I arrived at the Hotel there were signs posted on every door that guns were not allowed in the Hotel. When I contacted Hyatt about this, they told me that due to the recent CCW Law enacted in Chicago, Hyatt made a decision to not allow lawful CCW Holders to carry their weapons while staying at their hotel.

    I responded to Hyatt and respectfully challenged their policy, but they are adamant that they will not change it, effectively, making everyone staying in their hotel a potential victim.

    All their stupid signs do is tell criminals and the insane that no one in the hotel is armed. This, when coupled with the fact that Chicago is one of the most violent cities in the country, creates a situation that puts everyone staying in their hotel in jeopardy.

    When you make travel plans, please take this into consideration and avoid Hyatt Hotels.

    Thank You
  2. Paladin7

    Paladin7 Well-Known Member

  3. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Do you have a copy of the response that can be posted?

    Is this a local Chicogo Hyatt or corp/national Hyatt policy?
  4. Paladin7

    Paladin7 Well-Known Member

    Here is the response I received from them...

    Good Afternoon,

    I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to extend my apology in regards to the dissatisfaction you experienced during your previous stay. It is our goal to provide you with a stay that is as seamless and enjoyable as possible and it is a great disappointment to me to hear that we fell short of that goal during your visit. Thank you for providing comments regarding the Illinois concealed carry laws, however the majority of Chicago hotels, schools, hospitals, and businesses have made the decision to leave any emergency response to local law enforcement agencies. I apologize for any frustration this has caused, but please ensure we have security staff on the premises 24/7. Thank you again for providing your feedback, as your safety is our concern. If I can be of any further assistance, please feel free to contact me at any time that is best for you. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon!


    Anna Howley
    VIP Manager
    Hyatt Regency McCormick Place

    I'm not sure if this is a National Policy from Hyatt, but it is the policy of the Hyatt in Chicago.
  5. taliv

    taliv Moderator

    vast majority of hyatt properties aren't posted. at least not the ones i stay in. i was diamond status with them for years and used a lot of free stays traveling to matches so i've carried a lot of guns through hyatt hotels.
  6. HankR

    HankR Well-Known Member

    Maybe some of us should call Ms. Howley and ask her?
  7. Ryanxia

    Ryanxia Well-Known Member

    My email to Hyatt, hopefully I'll get a response.

  8. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    You were in Chicago. Did you not expect any business to do as the Mayor of Chicago desires?

    If Hyatt does not post the signs, what do you think will happen? Let me answer for you, fire inspections, health code violations, loss of liquor license, permanent "construction" in front of their hotels.

    It's the Chicago way, do as they say or be impoverished.
  9. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    I don't think this is corporate policy for all the Hyatt properties since I haven't seen this anywhere this year in my travels, but it is worthwhile to politely contact the Chicago operation and let them know you won't be doing business with them. The greatest inpact would be if their competitors you would patronize could be listed as not having made this decision to exclude law abiding customers.
  10. Ryanxia

    Ryanxia Well-Known Member

    Just received this from Hyatt.

    Will wait to see what the follow up is. It sounds like from some members here that this isn't a national policy but I think it's still good to make them aware of our concerns and see where they stand at the higher up.
  11. Ohen Cepel

    Ohen Cepel Well-Known Member

    What do they expect you to do with your property if you do opt to stay there?

    Will they secure it for you?
  12. zxcvbob

    zxcvbob Well-Known Member

    There's an interesting legal question here, I just don't have the vocabulary to ask it properly. :eek: A hotel room is your temporary domicile. I don't think a landlord can restrict you from having guns in your apartment. Hyatt did not inform you of the no guns policy when you made the reservation.

    So does the sign have any legal weight at all? (other than telling you that they don't really want your business and stay somewhere else next time)

    In the same situation (hotel was posted when I arrived, but I had a reservation) I ignored the sign and just kept it concealed -- the sign was obviously not intended for paying guests. But that wasn't in Illinois.
  13. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    It depends strongly on the state/city/local political subdivision. Look up the laws in the place you are going, and act accordingly. As for me, I have no plans to return to Chicago between now and when I take the dirt nap.
    If a place is posted No Firearms, I accept that it is their property, their rules, and find another place to do business with post haste.
  14. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    The domicile question is a very good one. The postings may or may not have any legal standing for resident guests of the hotel. Keep in mind that the room you're renting is probably the "domicile" and not the entire hotel. I hope someone posts that question over in Legal.
  15. Elkins45

    Elkins45 Well-Known Member

    What is the legal status of a posting in Illinois (or Chicago, if there is no statewide preemption) in regards to ignoring it? Here in KY it is not a violation of law to ignore a no CCW sign posted by a private business. If caught you can be asked to leave and cited for trespassing if you don't comply, but merely ignoring the sign isn't a violation in itself. Of course, there aren't all that many of those signs here.

    Is ignoring the sign a crime?
  16. MedWheeler

    MedWheeler Well-Known Member

    Hmm... haven't heard of the policy being posted at their units in Florida, and we've had statewide "shall-issue" concealed-carry since 1987. Also, I haven't heard of any mass-bloodshed as a result, either.

    Keep in mind that Hyatt units may be operating under other well-known names as well.
  17. DT Guy

    DT Guy Well-Known Member

    Yep, and I believe the second offense removes your CCL. This state is seriously sideways...

  18. ilbob

    ilbob Well-Known Member

    That's a good question. The law is somewhat ambiguous on this point, but I think it is wise to error on the side of not being a test case.

    ETA: there is statewide preemption but it only applies to handguns and handgun ammunition, but the extent of it is unclear.
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2014
  19. jj1962hemi

    jj1962hemi Well-Known Member

    Part of the Illinois problem is that the State specifically does not protect employers for damage done by an employee on premises with a legally owned and carried handgun. Many (most?) states have allowed liability protection for businesses, whereas Illinois has not. I know of companies in Illinois that have put up those signs because, per Illinois law, they afford liability protection to the operator of the property. This is probably the same theory Hyatt operates under. Fifty states may have SOME provision for CC, but lots of them (think NYC too) make it really hard.
  20. Ed N.

    Ed N. Well-Known Member

    This is not just a Chicago situation. If you will google "hyatt hotels firearms policy" you will see that many Hyatt hotels prohibit their residents from carrying guns.

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