I broke down. I'm so ashamed.

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I had an errand to run right near the closest Gander Mountain to me. So, I wandered in to take a look at the used gun racks. Lo and behold, there was one of those P6/225s that everyone has been talking about. The finish was worn, but the gun was not chewed up. The internals looked about new.

So, there I had a single-stack 9mm, medium sized, in DA/SA. It looked like it had the typical Sig ergonomics, which I've never really liked. I can't stand DA/SA. The gun holds, what, 10+1? and is the size of my beloved BHP, which holds 13+1, has better egonomics, and a better trigger. I had no use for this gun, really.

Of course I bought it. :uhoh:

The good news is that I had a $100 gift card in my wallet that I had forgotten about until I was on my way to the store (God bless Gift Cards...they're the gift that you get twice. Once when you get it, and once when you remember you have it), so I was out the door with a very good gun that I really don't need, for well under $300.

I gotta stop going to gun shops.

Mike
 
"...when you remember you have it..." As long as it's still valid. Up here, there's a lot of controversy over expiration dates on them. Don't use it in time and you lose it. The retailer keeps the money, you get squat.
Our government is actually planning on banning expiration dates. Retailers were and are making a ton of money from expired 'gift cards'.
Don't know if that happens Stateside.
 
10-Ring, the real cost was still $350+tax. But The gift card dropped it to $250+tax. I'm aware that this is a false sense of economy, since the gift card is the equivalent of cash (at GM), but it still feels like getting a $700 German gun for $250 bucks. ;)

And yeah, we're very good about keeping track of our gift cards. When we get them, we drop them in a basket in the kitchen. Then, whenever we have to shop somewhere, we check and see if we have a card. This one was lurking in my wallet unexpectedly.

But yeah, gift cards are easy money for companies. they get the money up front, if costs go up the gift card does not appreciate to cover the loss, and there is always the chance (often a good one) that it will never be redeemed. We do our best to make sure that they don't make money off of us. ;)

Mike
 
"...when you remember you have it..." As long as it's still valid. Up here, there's a lot of controversy over expiration dates on them. Don't use it in time and you lose it. The retailer keeps the money, you get squat.
Our government is actually planning on banning expiration dates. Retailers were and are making a ton of money from expired 'gift cards'.
Don't know if that happens Stateside

One nice thing about Gander Mtn - their cards do not expire or charge a "service charge." You get a card, keep it in the wallet, and forget about it until 2 years later, you still have full value.

Heard it while waiting on HOLD today, trying to find out store hours at the local GM.

Don't know if that applies north of the Mason Dixon...Canada is up there somewhere, isn't it?

Quoheleth-
The Republic of Texas :D
 
Hey,
Its not like you skipped out on attending a session on "lack of willpower" to go purchase this gun.

Since weight is horsepower, and in turn reflects gas mileage, you just lightened your wallet of a gift card that affected your gas mileage all this time. :)

Getting rid of that card lightened body weight on your knees...:)

See? You have nothing to be ashamed about. :D

Congrats and enjoy!


Given enough time man can rationalize anything.
-anon
 
I gotta stop going to gun shops.

You're tellin' me. Every time I go to a gun shop, I leave with a gun. Why, just the other day, I picked up a holster, and some speedloaders...

...and a gun. I bought a rifle for my kids to use (Chipmunk...so cute).

Congrats on the new gun. The P225's have been on my mind a while now. So far I've resisted.
 
George, go to GM or AIM Surplus. They have 'em, I didn't get any special deal, beyond my gift card (and some wheeling and dealing for Blazer Brass ammo, so I would be able to shoot it...the shame of it all, I'm completely dry on 9mm ammo...how did THAT happen?).

And, speaking of which...
 
Range report

Briefly: Ehh. I remain underwhelmed by Sig-Sauer.

PRO: No malfunctions of any kind, with 200 rounds of Blazer Brass. Good hand-feel. Not bad single-action pull.

CON: Only 8+1 rounds of 9mm, DA/SA pull, high barrel axis=flip, DA pull is somewhat long and stiff with a less than crisp break.

In depth: The gun is just really big for what it is, which I knew when I bought it. Recoil is easily absorbed by the gun, though the muzzle does flip a little, due to the high barrel axis (I suspect this is a technique thing, too. A little more practice and I can probably minimize it). I gather that the general layout of the gun mimics that of the P220/226/229 (it seems similar to that of the 226 I eval'ed for my PD), and all controls are easily reached by the strongside hand, though the decocker is more easily actuated by the support-side thumb, a least for me (not a negative). The gun fits my hand well, slightly better than the 226.

The trigger is, well...underwhelming. I suspect that a smith could tweak it a bit, and I also wonder of the DAK trigger from the 226 or 229 will fit. The SA pull and break are perfectly acceptable. The DA pull is long and stiff, with a break that is less like a glass rod and more like rolling off of a log. The transition between the two is really annoying (I hated the difference between the DA and SA pulls on my 4506, too, though the 4506's trigger is worse than the 225's trigger in every respect). Accuracy was acceptable. I couldn't shoot the DA trigger very well, but I suspect that is a practice issue.

Fit and finish of the gun was what you would expect from a police trade-in. The internals looked like the gun had, maybe, 500 rounds through it. The exterior finish was holster-worn, but the gun had very few dings, scratches or dents, and absolutely no rust. GM had three 225s. The first one (stupidly, the one in the display case) looked like it had been dragged behind a truck. The slide's finish was worn to the white in places, and not just corners and other high-traffic areas, and the metal of both the slide and the frame had clearly been dented/scuffed/marred from dropping the gun (French Gendarmes, perhaps?). The second one had a beautiful slide, but the anodized frame was all chewed up. The one I selected had a decent frame and some moderate finish wear on the slide, but no dings. I selected this one because I will probably not ever re-finish the frame, I might well make the slide into a project...and if not, it's good enough.

Bottom Line: If you're looking for a high quality plinker, trunk gun or a trainer for n00bs, this is a good buy. If you like the controls and trigger of the Sig classic series, it is probably an even better buy. I consider the gun to be inferior in every way to the BHP. Its closest cousin in my collection, in 9mm at least, would my HK P7. It is inferior in every way, IMO, to that gun as well. The P7 is smaller, of similar weight, holds more rounds, and has a far better trigger. I would absolutely feel well armed carrying this gun as a defensive pistol. It handles well, is reliable, and accurate.

Would I buy it again? No, probably not. I wanted to give he classic Sig layout another shot, since lots of people seem to love it. This was a way to do it on a budget. However, I'm not exactly in a hurry to sell it, either. I will probably use it as a trainer gun for new shooters, since it does fit your hand well, is light, recoil is very comfortable, and you can demonstrate the difference between DA and SA nicely. If you like the classic sig layout and feel, you'll probably love this gun.

Mike
 
The only reason I've resisted the P225 so far is it has a little bump on the left side of the grip, a raised area around the magazine release button, which annoys me when I take a firing grip with my left hand. Would only be a problem for a southpaw, and I keep telling the little voice that says I can replace the grips to shut up. :)

Tex
 
Those used gun racks will get you every time. On my last trip to Gander Mtn I scored at the used rack. I got a barely used KelTec P11 for 150.00. A good truck/tackle box gun for a good price. Can't beat it. :)
 
The correct number of guns to own is N+1, with N being the number of guns you currently own. The same rule works with bicycles, books and several other things...

Wolfe28, may I steal your quote, I love it! And you're 100% right though I'd add electronic gadgets too. :D
 
You mentioned a comparison to the P7 [cough]overpriced[cough/]. Heck, you could buy 4 P225's, that'd be like a double New York reload!
Sigs are dead reliable, very accurate, but they refuse to make a compact or subcompact pistol for some reason. I also agree on the trigger, DA pull is horrid at best. I still like my P220 Carry that resides in my nightstand, it's not going anywhere soon.
 
Yeah, the question does start to be "well, the P7 is better, but how MUCH better?" 4x? Probably not. But if I had to go shoot one of the two for money or my life, I would reach for the P7, every time. It is especially relevant to me since I own a P7. The P7 does, literally, everything the 225 does, and does it better. It's less of an issue if you don't already own a P7. ;)

Mike
 
Something similar happened to me a couple years ago. A friend and I went to a local gunstore so I could window shop for an ultra small and light weight concealable .38 or .357 magnum and well, I of course left the store with a brand new 4" S&W 500. :banghead:
 
Gander Mtn. got me too. Went in there and spotted a used Taurus 45acp snubbie revolver that I just had to put on layaway. I have till the end of August to pay it off, thank goodness!
 
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