i need some help in a debate...

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spacemanspiff,

If you are seriously looking to answer these folks in a manner which might get them to listen to you, try using some of the talking points from http://www.starseedcreations.com/words/rkba/tao_of_gun.html

I'm pretty sure they're more likely to listen if you speak their language.

pax

We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart. -- H. L. Mencken
 
get some saran wrap to put over your keyboards, the following may induce vomiting:


Everything is made up of energy, electromagnetic energy. As we look into what we see out there in life, we can become trapped in the superficial nature of things, or we can look deeper into the level where it is all energy. Upon awakening to our energetic state, we see that energy is goverened by different rules than we thought. We see that things like morality have no value to the impersonal state of energy. The more we see, we come to understand that emotions are magnetic in quality, they are sticky. They tend to get stuck in our energy body if we dont know how to unclear them. To clear them up means to feel them, and let them go, putting us back in that neutral state of pure energy being. That state of being is our natural place, and in that state we are protected, becuase we are in what some call a state of grace, or perhpas a state of no-defense. We just ARE. So. What i have learned is that the reason bad things happen to good people is that there is somthing stuck in their energy body that is attracting;fear attracts to itself that which it is afriad of. This is in no way a judgement, as all of this information is impersonal....we are only talking about manipulating energy here, yes? If we want to "defend" ourselves, to be safe, to be able to lead a clear, free life, we have to learn to see our energy states, and clear up what is there, so as not to unconsciously attract that which we fear. This is entirely possible to do. And in my experience the only true way to be a warrior. When we are caught in the unconsciousness of fear, it sets up a feedback system that reverberates again and again, and we react again and again, and it escaltes. That is what you are describing in the world...all the insanity. To be conscious of that means we are no longer victim to it, because we see our own part we play in that insanity, and learn to free ourselves from it.
I have no doubt that we, as modern humans, are going into a battle here, spiff. I think we will have to be painting our faces blue like braveheart soon, and meet with battle. It is just we have these awakened teachings to guide us now, why not stretch to learn them? As you learn to weild your gun, might it not be a higher option to also learn to weild your own consciousness as well? Talk about a fire-extinguisher..being fully awake is a force to be reckoned with, a force that in the end will lead us to a victory.
This is age old wisdom, not new age baloney..it lacks courage. I see you are a protector of life, and willing to act. I would just suggest learning as much as you can about your own self, so your acts are made with intent, rather than a reaction to an illusion. :)

like others have said, pearsl before swine...
 
Everything is made up of energy, electromagnetic energy.
You know, last time I checked, there was some flesh and blood and bone involved as well... :scrutiny:
What i have learned is that the reason bad things happen to good people is that there is somthing stuck in their energy body that is attracting;fear attracts to itself that which it is afriad of.
Er... no, not exactly. In a war situation, the reason bad things happened to me is that the guys on the other side were trying to kill me. In a mugging situation, it's because the scumbags wanted my wallet (I hope they didn't want my body!!! :eek: ).
If we want to "defend" ourselves, to be safe, to be able to lead a clear, free life, we have to learn to see our energy states, and clear up what is there, so as not to unconsciously attract that which we fear. This is entirely possible to do. And in my experience the only true way to be a warrior.
Er... no, not exactly. In my experience (limited admittedly to literally dozens of armed encounters over the course of an 18-year civil war, plus a few mugging attempts since coming to the USA, plus dealing on a daily basis with over 1,500 high-security convicts), if I want to defend myself, energy states have damn-all to do with it - preparedness, awareness, and the willingness to do unto the other SOB before he can do unto me, have quite a lot to do with my survival and continued good health! If I wander around the prison yard worrying about the inmates' energy levels, I'm likely to be a dead worrier, as opposed to a live warrior!
 
okay, this is more than ironic.... this person who spouts scientologist ideas? is a member of the toolarmy online community (made up of fans of the band TOOL), and tool has been very vocal about how they despise l ron hubbard and others like him.
oddly enough, many in that community are anti-gun.
 
It seems you have found a treasure trove of idiots. These little nests of stupidity are often found on the internet, but not quite in what I imagine to be the abundance you have found. Do not simply throw that away. That site sounds like a paradise for a good troll. I recommend trolling and frequently. But you must hide your true being. Disguise the energy of the troll so that they may think you are one of them. Allow me to make some recommendations:

1. Avoid proper grammar like the plague. This is often a sign of education. Additionally, if you have the ability to think about complex subjects, basic grammar comes naturally. You don't want them to know you have the ability to think about complex subjects. Don't scare them with grammar.

2. Quote odd sources and never provide the reference. Additionally, take opinion and offer it, no, vomit it, spew it forward as though it is a fact so obvious as to not merit support.

3. Add inane phrases. Some highly recommended ones include:

lolz
zoz
roflmaoawasldfkj
...
[;]
nomsain?

4. Make the proper spelling mistakes:

Help = halP!
you = yuo
the = teh
me = meh
Use "z" instead of an "s" where possible.

Enjoy this while you can. Once you have their confidence, then you can start talking about "the SigZawer fourty cal!! its shots nice for meh...zoz!" Eventually they will understand.

Good luck and happy trolling.
 
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