I'm not a happy American seeing Shiite Hezbollah gunmen with M16's!!

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The U.S. should make it a standard practice to build hidden RFID tags and thermal image enhanced material into all small arms that we give to other countries. It would make it a damn site easier to locate ( target) them later when they get used against us or friendly nations.
 
The U.S. should make it a standard practice to build hidden RFID tags and thermal image enhanced material into all small arms that we give to other countries. It would make it a damn site easier to locate ( target) them later when they get used against us or friendly nations.
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Yeah, that'd be great. Then we'd have to litter the target country with RFID receivers to make use of this useless technology.

Thermal enhanced eh? Like it gets hot? Will it require a battery, black magic, voodoo to make it hotter than the environment? think the battery will last for ever, or the wires cant be cut?

I think New Jersey has some law on the books about "smart guns" as the next method of gun control. If you think it'll work outside of that gulag, well, I have a bridge to sell you.

-T
 
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It's kind of Ironic, but I have read several accounts of American Sericemen in Iraq (as well as Iraqi police) arming themselves with AK-47s because they function better in the sandy environment and are prefered for up close social work.
 
Yeah, that'd be great. Then we'd have to litter the target country with RFID receivers to make use of this useless technology.
The technology can be effective if scanners are placed at strategic points, bridges, tunnels, transportation centers,etc.

Thermal enhanced eh? Like it gets hot? Will it require a battery, black magic, voodoo to make it hotter than the environment? think the battery will last for ever, or the wires cant be cut?
Thermally enhanced as in plastics impregnated with sensitive materials that are highly reflective generating a signature that can be seen by night vision scopes on aircraft or spotters on the ground

I think New Jersey has some law on the books about "smart guns" as the next method of gun control. If you think it'll work outside of that gulag, well, I have a bridge to sell you.

I think that anything that can be done to keep small arms and other arms out of the hands of terrorists who would kill Americans is worth trying.
 
I think that anything that can be done to keep small arms and other arms out of the hands of citizens who would prevent our rise to power is worth trying.
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Now you sound just like a bigot politician.
Look, what I mean to demonstrate by this is that what weapons they are using, or if they are using weapons at all is really not all that important.
What is important is the mindset over there.
Are we going to continue to invade their countries, for a good or bad purpose, it doesn't matter, and give terrorism ammunition to use against us?
There's nothing that will get people to blow themselves up like telling an ignorant person that the enemy are here to rape his/her family.
They can't do that if we aren't over there.
We can change their minds, if we become only a country across the sea, just a trade partner, and not an aggressor.
In the end, whether they use an AK or an AR is really irrelevant. It's whether we keep antagonizing them to use their weapons that is important.

As a side note, if we don't want U.S. designs to be used against us, maybe we shouldn't sell weapons to untrustworthy countries like Iran and Afghanistan. Oops, too late.
 
I have no intention of getting into a political discussion or a study in moral equivalency between one man's freedom fighter and another man's terrorist. As far as I am concerned Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that has American blood on its hands. If we can find a way to deprive them of stolen or ill goten weapons then we should.
End of story.
Anyone who needs convincing can go here.

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1148
 
Factfind, did you read my entire post?
The re-quote was kinda unrelated.
I wasn't saying that these people are freedom fighters, I was saying that us invading their country does not help our image over there, and it would be in our best interests to finish only what we've started as quickly as possible and get out.
I'm almost convinced we've done all we need to at this point, as well.
If we want to keep breeding hate and discontent over there, well then we should just keep attacking and invading, but if we want to let them modernize and control their own destinies and overthrow these quacks, we need to get out.
The only reason I put the re-quote down was because that was the first thing I thought of when you said what you did, and it was quite eerie.
 
The technology can be effective if scanners are placed at strategic points, bridges, tunnels, transportation centers,etc.
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Lets think about your plan for a second

Who is going to place the US control gun-control technology in their country?
Do you think they're just going to let it sit there?
Are they going to setup the wiring for it too? pay the electric bill on the scanners, maintain the transmission antennas to the global gun control network?

Imagine for a second if some foreign nationals started placing strange black boxes in OUR "strategic points". Think it'd sit well? Think we'd leave it alone??

The sheer stupidity of your gun-control plan is astounding.

-T
 
I hate seeing pics from what's going on in Lebanon with Shiite Hezbollah gunmen.

I'd much rather see them with some rocks and slingshots.
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There, fixed it for ya!
 
i don't really consider an m-16 being any better then what we civilains can purchase here.full auto does not make up for being able to buy the finest custom weapons in the world over the counter.not to mention nvd's and all the top optics.
 
Some time ago Clinton gave the Palestinian government about 10,000 M16s as part of a peace deal. Most don't recall it but it is true none the less.
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And back in 2006 Hamas captured thousands of M16s sent in by the US to Fatah along with new AK47s, explosives, ammo, rockets and so on as part of a deal. Most don't seem to recall that either but it is true none the less. I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of them went to Hezbollah too. Then again most of these M16s didn't start appearing till 2007. We been using that region for the past 60 years as part of the cold war and then trying to clean the mess up by arming one group after the other with weapons to keep them relatively balanced against each other.
 
It's the way of the world. Today's friend is tomorrow's enemy.

In WW2, we gave the Chinese a buttload of BARs and Thompson subguns and the like...as well as other smallarms...that they put to good use against the Japanese.

20 years later, the Chinese gave those same weapons to the NVA, who in turn gave them to the South Vietnamese nationals who became the Viet Cong...and American weapons were being used to kill Americans.

Sorry state of affairs...ain't it?
 
I can't care less about their small arms. Regardless if they have them through Clinton's misguided Oslo deal or via the Lebanese military, a rifle is a rifle.

Instead of fuming about Lebanon- think of how many M-16s are going to go on the black market through Iraq and Afghanistan. :eek: And while we are at it- do you realize how much U.S. military hardware got in the hands of the NVA or VC during the Vietnam War? An absurd amount. Some ARVN officers were actually equipping "ghost companies"- meaning a company that only existed on paper. So they got all the funds, uniforms, boots, rifles, etc, but then simply sold them.

So history repeats itself. The Iraq army of today is the new ARVN. Bribes, secret alliances, and plenty of U.S. weapons going into the wrong hands. :(

Yes our guns are all over the place, the way of the world. So get used to it.
 
Be sure to thank the wonderful nut loving people at the State Department and The Clintons for giving them to them. Part of the Oslo meetings and later again so mabus could be safe. Oslo accords everything was agreed to. Isralies signed all, Arafat walked out refused only wanted $ and guns So don't expect peace to last. Even tho supposed to Announce the big deal this month.
 
Now you sound just like a bigot politician.
Look, what I mean to demonstrate by this is that what weapons they are using, or if they are using weapons at all is really not all that important.
What is important is the mindset over there.
Are we going to continue to invade their countries, for a good or bad purpose, it doesn't matter, and give terrorism ammunition to use against us?
There's nothing that will get people to blow themselves up like telling an ignorant person that the enemy are here to rape his/her family.
They can't do that if we aren't over there.
We can change their minds, if we become only a country across the sea, just a trade partner, and not an aggressor.
In the end, whether they use an AK or an AR is really irrelevant. It's whether we keep antagonizing them to use their weapons that is important.

As a side note, if we don't want U.S. designs to be used against us, maybe we shouldn't sell weapons to untrustworthy countries like Iran and Afghanistan. Oops, too late.
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All you are saying is give peace a chance. :banghead:
 
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