Imus Affair: The Left Has Tasted Blood, Conservatives Warn

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Imus Affair: The Left Has Tasted Blood, Conservatives Warn
By Fred Lucas
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200704/NAT20070413e.html

(CNSNews.com) - The pressure campaign that led to talk show host Don Imus' ouster this week may embolden liberals to try to muzzle others, conservative analysts have warned.

After Imus' fall this week, the liberal website Media Matters ran the headline "It's not just Imus" over pictures of conservative media personalities, including Rush Limbaugh, Neal Bortz and Bill O'Reilly.

That same day, the liberal Huffington Post blog displayed under the headline "Flashback" perceived bigoted quotes by Limbaugh, O'Reilly and shock jock Howard Stern

Although Imus -- fired for denigrating the Rutgers University women's basketball team on the air -- was no conservative, the row over his remarks could affect conservatives, according to Cliff Kincaid, editor of Accuracy in the Media.

Much of the Rev. Al Sharpton's argument for CBS and MSNBC to sack Imus centered on the need for the Federal Communications Commission to regulate decency on the public airwaves. Empowering the FCC has already been a key argument for bringing back the Fairness Doctrine, Kincaid said.

"This campaign is all about censorship," Kincaid said Friday, addressing a discussion on the Fairness Doctrine sponsored by the conservative Free Congress Foundation. "The left has tasted blood after the Imus affair."

Democrats in Congress want to bring back the Fairness Doctrine, a federal regulation that required broadcasters to present both sides of a controversial issue. The FCC enforced the rule from 1949 to 1987, when it was dropped during the Reagan administration.

Many in the broadcast industry credit the dropping of the rule for the rise of conservative talk radio that has become a booming industry, featuring personalities like Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham.

If passed by Congress, the measure would be codified into law and be stronger than a regulation by the FCC. The chief proponents are Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-N.Y.), Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) and Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.).

"It doesn't mean that Rush Limbaugh would have to give two sides of the story," Sanders said in a written statement in February. "But it does mean that you can't have what you have now, which is networks in which 95 to 98 percent of the broadcasting is one point of view, usually right wing."

The panelists at the Free Congress Foundation forum were unanimous in their opposition to the Fairness Doctrine, but they differed on the Imus firing.

Former political consultant Dick Morris said it wasn't a matter of free speech or the free market, but a "reformation of matters" that should prevent future influential hosts from slurring ethnic groups.

He mentioned numerous anti-Jewish, anti-black and anti-Hispanic statements made by Imus and said he wondered why "distinguished guests legitimized" his show.

"All the Wall Street yuppies that listen to Imus and talk at the water cooler should know ethnic slurs are not okay," Morris said.

Radio talk show host Alan Nathan was glad Imus was fired, considering what he said was a usual double standard.

"If Imus was a conservative and made those comments, he would have been out years ago," Nathan said.

However, Ken Blackwell, a black former Ohio secretary of state and 2006 GOP nominee for governor, disagreed with firing Imus, even though he said the long-time radio host's remarks were deplorable.

"Liberals went after one of their own so they can go after a true conservative talk show host" in the future, he warned.

Blackwell also faulted Viacom, the parent company of CBS, which fired Imus but still owns Black Entertainment Television, a cable TV channel Blackwell said shows music videos that "denigrate women in general and African-American women in particular."

'Blatantly Unconstitutional'

Although it's currently a proposal before Congress, a single new appointment to the FCC by a Democratic president could impose the Fairness Doctrine by administrative means, panelists said.

But that would be "blatantly unconstitutional" and would likely not survive a court challenge, Blackwell said.

"The FCC determined in 1987 [that the doctrine] violated the First Amendment and contravened the public interest," Blackwell noted. "Since 1987, there has been an explosion in types of media outlets."

That, Morris said, is exactly why the rule would have no relevance today. He pointed out that a decade ago, 50 percent of viewers got their news from ABC, CBS and NBC nightly newscasts. Today, with the explosion of cable news, only 20 percent get their news from those networks.

"The Fairness Doctrine only made sense at a time of scarcity and monopoly of media sources," Morris said.

The political consultant in him advised that language being used in the debate would be important, since "fairness" is a positive word.

"You can't leave it with an argument against the Fairness Doctrine," he said. "It's got to be an argument for the freedom doctrine."
 
Maybe PC will rule the earth.

Or maybe the future targets will just harden their positions and adopt the "Never apologize, never explain" strategy until the obvious double-standard is dissolved.
 
If I am supposed to see Don Imus as anything but a loud mouthed idiot, good luck. He is not a cultural warrior.
 
Not to say what Imus said was OK by any stretch it was low and shouldn't have been said, but I think things would be much different if a black radio host made the same comments. But I can't beleive this kind of things takes over the news for a week when we have a war going on, and plenty of other things. This Imus things has completely taken over a lot of media coverage.

On a larger note, I don't care what your people have dealt with in the past, it doesn't mean you can say something and somebody else can't. Every race religion creed etc has had terrible things happen to them in the past and it doesn't mean they have exclusive rights to certain parts of the English language. There are too many double standards and everybody is too PC and afraid of offending people that you have to tread lightly when talking about racial sexual and religous issues. It becomes impossible to just say what you want to say without someone branding you racist sexist etc, even when it isn't even remotely so. I think it really slows down social and cultural progress because it just separates us all more and more. This is how I feel and I will take whatever heat you guys throw.
 
Lol, when they tried to "silence" howard stern, he just made more money on a growing industry (unlike traditional radio).

Imus isn't a political icon, he is a shock jock.
 
What i don't follow is that if a black person calls another black person a __________. Then it's not offensive. But if anyone else does it they're racist?

I mean seriously, a good chunk of the cultures out there own their own stereo types.

Get over it. Everyone hates everyone else of different skin colors, religions and sexual orientation equally. The sooner we learn that the sooner we can all get along by ignoring each other.

aaaaaaaand i've just been informed that i'm tired and hungry and that this makes me iritable. :scrutiny: I'll continue this later
 
What i don't follow is that if a black person calls another black person a __________. Then it's not offensive. But if anyone else does it they're racist?
Exactly. I haven't paid any attention to Don Imus in almost 30 years, but he is intelligent enough to pronouce and probably even spell W-H-O-R-E. All he was doing was parroting what people of colour call themselves. Where does Al Dullton think the term "ho" came from? Hint -- it didn't originate with white Americans. I first encountered it as graffiti spray painted on the door of a public housing complex in a section of south Boston about 20 years ago.
 
What i don't follow is that if a black person calls another black person a __________. Then it's not offensive. But if anyone else does it they're racist?


I think that is changing. Half of the problem is there is so much money in the rap industry, but times are changing. You now have rappers, rapping about how bad other rappers are. There also seems to be a strong shift in african-american politics. Of all the minorities in the USA, they have it the worst right now (Marriage rates, crime, poverty levels, etc) and they are making positive changes. No longer can they argue it's the "white-man" keeping them down and many leaders see the harm that does with the youth.


There was a study and it found whites, asians, hypanics, and japanese (somehow... not asians, don't ask me why) were more popular with higher GPAs [except for hyspanics]. This trend was the opposite in the african-american community. As blacks got greater GPA scores, they were socially more isolated.


I don't think there was a strong black-leadership in the 90s speaking on these issues. Now there is, and we all know only blacks can speak about this (since anyone else would be seen as a racist). Before in the 90s, blacks who did speak out against this tide-of-self-acclaimed-ignorance were labled as white (like Bill Cosby).
 
If I am supposed to see Don Imus as anything but a loud mouthed idiot, good luck. He is not a cultural warrior.

+1. He's just an idiot for sure. I've only had the misfortune of hearing that cretin a few times. I'm very solidly conservative and I don't consider Imus anything but a babbling moron. He certainly doesn't represent me or my views in any way. I kinda doubt he's conservative or a republican. Corzine was quick to setup the meeting between Imus and the Rutgers ladies. I really doubt Corzine would have done that for a conservative like O'Reilly or Limbaugh.

I was shocked to learn that he was on TV. I don't know how one goes from being 30th in his slot in NY to TV.

With Stern and Imus gone, I'm sure the average IQ for talk show hosts has nearly doubled. No loss. Good riddance.

Also, if my hair looked like Imus' hair, I wouldn't be commenting on anyone else's hair.
 
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There was a study and it found whites, asians, hypanics, and japanese (somehow... not asians, don't ask me why)
actually illuminates the Imus situation: Most East Asian nations, especially Koreans and followed by the Chinese, have been the victims of atrocities perpetrated by, you guessed it, the Japanese. (google unit 731 or comfort women, or go to www.askakorean.blogspot.com )
As to how this relates to Imus: Most black people in the USA are descendants of slaves who were owned by white people. WHen some old white guy on the radio makes racially disparaging skits, impressions or comments about black people for 30 YEARS and GETS AWAY WITH IT you can count on the last straw making people go :cuss:

How this relates to guns (tangentially if at all). Remember good old Tom Daschle? yeah, that guy in Congress who sure did like to ban guns? Remember how he spent decades in Congress voting against the interests of the majority of his constituents? How he schmoozed with sleazy people who wanted to take away guns and possibly even put their owners in prison? How he wholeheartedly supported every unconstitutional law they wanted? When his constituents booted him out, not even the awesome powers of fundraising from his elevated position in Congress could save him. He and Imus have this in common: they spent years on end driving certain people nuts and lost their jobs as a result.
 
Tecumseh said:
Nothing to represent the gun culture supporting a racist to help further our cause. How is this even gun related is my question?

This appears to be another one of the "Liberals are evil!" threads that pops up here every day or two. Last time I asked that question, I was told to read the rules. :banghead:
 
Comment: Collectivism is a liberal method, not a goal. Few object to such goals as helping the unfortunate. The argument is over how it's done; the old argument about give fish vs. teach how to catch fish, e.g.

But, OT...

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