Ineffective .30 Carbines in Korea?

[Nom de Forum]

Second photo (doing this on my phone is a PITA). Look like bodacious little thug-busters to me. Supposed to be good deer rounds too.

I bought a box of the bullets directly from Barnes, but ya gotta beg for 'em, they're not a stock item. When they make some for Cor-Bon, they do some intentional over-runs to satisfy the demand from beggars like me.

I think their stock # is 30800, but I can't swear to that without going to the basement and digging out the box. Pretty sure that's it though. They ain't cheap.

That looks like a great bullet for the .30 Carbine!

 

[rondog]

That looks like a great bullet for the .30 Carbine!

'Tis a mighty deep hole in them bullets, it 'tis. I sure wouldn't want to be on the angry end of one.

 

[Art Eatman]

Unless somebody has some datum as useful as the DP ammo, let's stick a fork in this thread...

 

[Hacker15E]

Where did you get your info?

About 60 million people on earth die each year.

If 2 million (minimum number per "millions" in your quote) are killed by .22 long rifle, that means that over 3% of all deaths in the world are caused by being shot with a .22.

The US only has about 2.5 million deaths TOTAL (30,000 or so from firearms) from all causes every year, where in the world are all these deaths from .22 located?

They must have plenty of .22 ammo available where ever it is, maybe we can get some sent over here!

He didn't specify human bodies...

 

[Cocked & Locked]

This thread needs a least one picture of a M1 carbine. So here it is.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I can't imagine any service man who used one calling them jamb-o-matics?

Of all the things they have been accused of, jamming or failures to feed wasn't one of them.
Unless you got hold of a real bad magazine.

With extensive use and rebuilding, a carbine can develop a slight hump in the right side rail -- which will prevent it from fully locking. I had one of those once.

 

[45_auto]

He didn't specify human bodies...

You maybe thought he was referring to chickens or chipmunks??

2. Anyone want to take the "frozen winter coat" challenge, go stand 100 yards down range and take a few shots from the M1 Carbine and see how "ineffective" it is? Clearly there are multiple reasons that it "appeared" ineffective, as articulated throughout this thread - misses, distance, perception, poor shot placement, unfair head-to-head comparison versus the Garand, very motivated and/or drugged enemy Soldiers (who could not retreat because of the consequences, who may have sought capture and hospitality, etc.), and on and on... I seriously question anyone - veteran or otherwise - who honestly thinks that a intermediate weight/caliber bullet (.30 caliber or even 5.56) who thinks that it's "ineffective" at killing... because there are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of piled bodies globally that say otherwise... and I've seen a handful of them (5.56 related).

 

[Vern Humphrey]

You maybe thought he was referring to chickens or chipmunks??

If we include non-humans, the individual weapon responsible for the most deaths is probably a rolled-up newspaper.

 

[Art Eatman]

C&L, thanks for the photo.