I will relate the facts as told to me, they are close to correct but I might not have asked enough questions, especially about the demise of the father or lack thereof.
A coworker asked me this. As we both own firearms. Coworker’s brother is in hospital, almost succumbed to coronavirus. Still not out of the woods. Brother is believed to have an old pistol that my coworker’s father owned. Brother’s girlfriend doesn’t want the pistol around. I believe it may be in my coworker’s possession. I’m not sure.
My coworker mentioned his father was one state away, in New Jersey. I forgot to ask, I thought his father had passed and I think this is the case, but it might be he is very old and still in poor health. I seem to think he has passed, but not sure.
A big red flag is that father lives or lived in New Jersey. My coworker said that knowing his father, pistol might have been purchased prior to GCA of 1968. May have been given to his brother or simply left there by his father without filling out a Form 4473. There is also the chance that Brother purchased legally using the Form 4473 and father is not involved at all.
1. My understanding is that Form 4473 does not track firearms by make and serial number so there is no way of tracking if Brother acquired it at a gun shop decades ago legally. Depending on where he obtained it, it might have been done legally face to face without paperwork.
2. IF brother passes away, how does girlfriend, who never had anything to do with this pistol, gift it to my coworker legally. Both are in the same state.
3. IF father is still alive, he is infirm. May not be able to get to an FFL to have FFL mail to my coworker’s FFL. Like I said, coworker’s father lives or lived in New Jersey before demise. If my coworker has to return to father if his father can even have an FFL ship to my coworker, my coworker would be committing a few felonies by possessing this pistol inside New Jersey lines.
A complicated situation based on state lines, a particular state that is involved and some ambiguity as to who actually owns the pistol.
A coworker asked me this. As we both own firearms. Coworker’s brother is in hospital, almost succumbed to coronavirus. Still not out of the woods. Brother is believed to have an old pistol that my coworker’s father owned. Brother’s girlfriend doesn’t want the pistol around. I believe it may be in my coworker’s possession. I’m not sure.
My coworker mentioned his father was one state away, in New Jersey. I forgot to ask, I thought his father had passed and I think this is the case, but it might be he is very old and still in poor health. I seem to think he has passed, but not sure.
A big red flag is that father lives or lived in New Jersey. My coworker said that knowing his father, pistol might have been purchased prior to GCA of 1968. May have been given to his brother or simply left there by his father without filling out a Form 4473. There is also the chance that Brother purchased legally using the Form 4473 and father is not involved at all.
1. My understanding is that Form 4473 does not track firearms by make and serial number so there is no way of tracking if Brother acquired it at a gun shop decades ago legally. Depending on where he obtained it, it might have been done legally face to face without paperwork.
2. IF brother passes away, how does girlfriend, who never had anything to do with this pistol, gift it to my coworker legally. Both are in the same state.
3. IF father is still alive, he is infirm. May not be able to get to an FFL to have FFL mail to my coworker’s FFL. Like I said, coworker’s father lives or lived in New Jersey before demise. If my coworker has to return to father if his father can even have an FFL ship to my coworker, my coworker would be committing a few felonies by possessing this pistol inside New Jersey lines.
A complicated situation based on state lines, a particular state that is involved and some ambiguity as to who actually owns the pistol.