interchangable triggerguards uberti/colt 2-gen.

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Hello,
I have been looking at getting a 2nd generation colt navy for shooting and reenacting, etc. I want a 2nd generation because I have read many good reviews about them but most of all are the period markings are correct and no "Black Powder Only" b.s. or Pietta and so on all over the revolver. However, I hate the square triggerguard and would like to change out the triggerguards with an oval more common style. Of course most of these are silver/nickel plated and have corresponding serial numbers. I have found a repro Uberti triggerguard in the silver plate. I am wondering has anyone ever changed out triggerguards? Did everything line up? Thanks Chris
 
Reb, you might be hard pressed to find someone who has done that. Look at some of the 2nd Generation Colts up for sale on Gunbroker or Auction Arms, most if not all , describe them as, "Never been turned" or "Never been cocked."

I have a 2nd Generation 51' Navy and it sits in a glass case. I've never cocked it even to oil it. I just spray some oil on and with a pipe cleaner and small patch and rag wipe her down.
 
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Hey Fellas,
Thanks for the advice. I was going to just get a Uberti and be done with it, but unless you buy one from Cimmaron I think Dixie and everyone is sold-out. I have nothing against Cimmaron, but their 51' Navy has Fredricksburg Texas "Grafitti" on top of pistol from what I have seen. With the auctions going online for only a couple hundred more I could buy a 2nd Generation which is about as authentic as one can get without having the real thing:rolleyes:

I know this sounds very picky but just wanted to hear what you fellas thought and if anyone has used these in the past.
 
Reb, if I reall correctly the squareback was the more popular and more common style than the oval in the 51' Navy. But I've looked at Gunsamerica, Gunsinternational and Gunbroker and can't find any 2nd Generation 51' Navys with oval triggerguards. Lots of squarebacks but no ovals.
 
A triggerguard will have to be fitted. To do it right, it would need to be sanded to the frame and that involves refinishing. A takeoff part will probably not fit correctly where it meets the frame. From every gunsmith I've queried on this issue, a new Uberti will be a better made sixgun than the 2nd and 3rd generation Colt percussion models. You may want to weigh the cost of buying the Colt and swapping the parts against buying a Uberti or Pietta and having the markings removed and doing a proper 19th century refinish. It will be more period correct than any Colt made in the last 100yrs.
 
I agree 100% Craig!!! If only we can get Reb to hit that link I provided, then all is well. Its call Defarbing and a guy on this board does it. I've had work done on my 3rd Generation Colt by him and his work is incredible.


So Reb, hit that link!!! ;)
 
Gary did the Kirst gated conversion, action job and dovetail front sight on my 3rd model Dragoon. He does a good job.
 
Reb, if I reall correctly the squareback was the more popular and more common style than the oval in the 51' Navy. But I've looked at Gunsamerica, Gunsinternational and Gunbroker and can't find any 2nd Generation 51' Navys with oval triggerguards. Lots of squarebacks but no ovals.
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Not exactly. The square back triggerguard only came on original 1851 Navies up to serial number 4200 (in 1851). All 1851 Navies after that (except those special ordered with a square back) had the oval trigger guard (up to SN 215348). Square backs are prevalent on repros because a 2nd model Navy with square back trigger guard was used in 1957 as the pattern for the first replica makers.

A Uberti London model 1851 Navy with blued BS/TG will have only London on the barrel top. The rest of the 'graphitti' is under the loading lever. And there are usually a few brass oval trigger guarded Navies listed on GB. (381054886, 380749816, 380785698, 381101283, et al)
 
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Hey Crawdad, Craig and Fingers!

Thanks for all the help and advice. I have been stewing on this for a few weeks since I did a refinish on the farby blonde wooden grips on my 1981 Euroarms Colt Navy. I was thinking of retiring it and getting a true Colt or Uberti and doing the defarb on my own, but cost is too risky for me, a novice, to screw up a nice gun. :banghead:

Clicked the link this morning and talked to Gary and he is going to put me one together. I think the best way is to just remove the Robert E. Lee commemorative from one of the 1971 2nd generation Colts that already has a beautiful silver plated oval trigger-guard. So I'm going to let Gary work his magic and do it up right.

Thanks Gentlemen for keeping me from making a mistake and all your advice.

Chris McBroom, Capt. "Reb"
16th Arkansas Infantry, C.S.A.
Sander's Btln., Huckabee's Trans-Miss Division
 
Reb, sounds like a great plan. Good luck on whatever you decide. :)

But I’ll have to admit that I do step a little livelier and walk a little taller when I’m out hunting with my 3rd Generation Colt. It’s just something about them with those original Colt markings and nothing else that makes them just that much better.


And, she can shoot.
 
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