NC NFA Defense Assoc Wrote that portion of the Alert & I will Own it totally
Wacki
I've been out of town with a group of Scouts, and apologize to GRNC for them getting dragged into this and having to deal with the fall out for 24 hours while I was away.
#1 you can get off GRNC's back.. I wrote that portion of the alert and I will stand by it and defend it to the end..
We (NC NFA DA) have been the preeminent Class 3 propionates in NC since 1999. We partner with GRNC on many things class 3 related and we wrote that portion of the alert because of our specialized knowledge in the area of NFA ownership in NC.
#2 People like you make me very angry.. IDK how the rules of this forum say you can't attack someone, but the title of your post is COMPLETELY off target is in fact an unwarranted attack.
You and so many other arm chair talking heads like to stir a big pile of crap, but I don't ever seen you at the House or Representatives, or in meetings with Senators, or going up against the NC AG's Office or the NFA office of the BATFE.
Anyone can select 1 line quotes out of context and cause inflammatory results among a group of people.. It accomplishes NOTHING except dissention in the ranks of the PRO GUN MOVEMENT.
You state in you first or 2nd post that you don't want to be bothered to pull your wife down to the Police Station for Prints and Mugs.. Yet you want to jump on Delta1 for his post, the most factual in the bunch thus far... for getting upset over your total lack of knowledge on this subject.
Wait till BATFE and DOJ add their draconian CLEO expansion that we are trying to eliminate !!!
If you would stop going to different websites and copying inflammatory 1 liners and actually take the time to educate yourself as tot he history behind what is going on here you may have some prospective.
The NFATCA lobbied the BATFE/NFA office for several years to get Prints and Mugs added to all TRUST and LLC's for NFA Ownership.. They are progun and they did this to effectively eliminate the CLEO signature from all NFA transfers, in turn using NICS and similar for NFA transactions so MORE people can get NFA.
The preliminary reason people can't get them is the refusal of the CLEO to sign off.. They wanted to eliminate that and tried to do a trade off..
AGAIN THEY LOBBIED FOR PRINTS AND MUGS ON ALL MEMBERS OF NFA TRUST AND LLCs.
Now with Obama's Executive or telling BATFE AND DOJ to tighten the "loop hole" with TRUST and LLCs the DOJ and BATFE took years of lobbying by NFATCA and turned it around on them.. they have given far more than enough to burry us all under Prints and Mugs.. That's coming.. you can bitch about it or you can stand and fight about the part that is FAR FAR FAR worse..
The BATFE and DOJ want to EXPAND the CLEO signoff to all members of all members of all TRUST and LLCs obtaining NFA items for all purchases..
So you think rolling a set of prints and snapping a photo is a pain in the ass... keep bitching and raising a stink rather than combining efforts and fighting the CLEO endorsement and we are going to have TRUST AND LLC's completely NEUTERED rather than merely inconvenienced.
You can jump up and down, and raise a stink, and point fingers, but I have seen your type before and NEVER have I seen one of those that want to cause problems actually doing anything to HELP THE PROBLEM.
I'm not going to debate you, I'm not going to stoop to the level of your adolescent comments.. Myself and my group (in partnership with GRNC) have done more for NFA Ownership in North Carolina than anyone in history.
We are the reason you can legally own any NFA items on a Trust in NC.. because before the amendments we wrote in HB650 it was illegal!! Also before our Amendments you had to have a MG Permit from the State.. now using the correct reasons, you don't.. thanks again to NC NFA and GRNC.. next the HB937 Suppressor Hunting addition.. Who do you think was pushing that and wrote several drafts of the amendment as well as caught a MAJOR error that was originally introduced on the NRA's version of the bill (which failed).
The NFATCA insured that Prints and Mugs are coming to Trust and LLC's..
THEY GOT ROYALLY SCREWED BY THE GOVERNMENT!! I only fault them for ever trusting the establishment to hold their end of any trade off or bargain.
Even though you quote another 1 liner from NRA ILA where BATFE/DOJ have cited no instances of a crime committed with a NFA item owned by a Trust/LLC" WELL THANK GOD THEY CANT or we would be screwed on TRUST/LLCs.
BATFE and DOJ did cite several instances in their original proposal as to the pit falls of unchecked Trust and LLCs.. including 1 dumb ass that was rejected on a form 4 as a prohibited person, and then formed a Trust under his same name and tried to circumvent the background check.. Then certainly you will remember the cop out in California earlier this year that went nuts killing people and had bragged on several web sites how easy if was for him to get NFA items on his Nevada Trust.. That thrust a spotlight on the issue.
Now you can continue to whine, and moan and arm chair the issue from your narrow prospective or you can see it for what it is and help prevent a disaster with Trust and LLC's. Because if they implement to CLEO endorsement portion of their proposal, they will bring a end to probably 60-70% of Trust ownership, where as Prints and Mugs will be a very slight inconvenience.
Regardless you can get off GRNC's back.. they are the best of the best.. you want to jump on someone.. bring it on... I'll stand on my record any day.
Jeff Lawrence
President NC NFA Defense Assoc.