Double, triple, and quadruple check your vehicle to make sure there is no live ammunition, and NO SPENT BRASS in your car. My last trip from Michigan to Toronto, Ontario involved a 20 minute inspection of my vehicle because my CPL showed up on the Canadian custom agent's computer screen with my Driver's License number. Ten minutes of "where is your gun?" and my answer "back home in the safe" wasn't good enough, so he pulled us over and went through the vehicle. They didn't rip it to shreds, but they did check every nook and cranny in the back and under the seats for spent brass.
I can only assume that the Canadian border agency, and probably their police entities, can access LEIN from either your DL or your vehicle's license plate, and that CPL information is linked to your DL in LEIN.How can Canadian agency know you are CPL holder? Does your state share the CPL database with Canadian government?
How can Canadian agency know you are CPL holder? Does your state share the CPL database with Canadian government?
I wouldn't......the back of your "box" is open and not immune from the prying eyes of the UPS Store employees.A comment after the fact: wonder if someone could rent a box at a UPS Store, Mailboxes Inc. or similar, then just stick a box in their own mailbox and leave it there?.....
Avoiding a beautiful trip for the 1 in 25,567,342 chance you're going to need your pistol to protect yourself? Nah.
Avoid giving my money to a country (or state) that doesn't respect and honor my God given rights? Yeah, I'd be ok with that. Beautiful, sure, but Banf didn't look all that much different than Montana last time I checked. I remember some very attractive girls back in college, but the risks weren't worth the perceived pleasure.
+1000 on the pawn shop idea. I had to use it at Fort Lewis when I was declined utilization of an arms room for my personal weapons while on a two month TDY.
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I was at the port for almost four hours while those agents were harassing me.
Don't take a handgun to NYC, period. That place isn't free America. My job allows me to carry nationwide under federal law, and I still had a half hour of BS to contend with at LaGuardia airport in NYC, when I was legally trying to check a gun into baggage before my flight back to Denver.
+1000 on the pawn shop idea. I had to use it at Fort Lewis when I was declined utilization of an arms room for my personal weapons while on a two month TDY. I just kept the pawn money folded-up untouched in my wallet and handed it back over when I picked up the guns. I think the time limit before he could sell them was 90 days at the time.
That would be involving both of you in federal felonies. Let's not go there!MAYBE you can try to find a THR member in the border town or close to it who would babysit your pistol?
As Dogtown Tom pointed out, the gunsmithing option is the only plan that works because a gunsmith can transfer a firearm back to its owner regardless of where that owner resides.
A pawn shop can't transfer your handgun back to you if you are not a resident of that state. They'll have to send it to an FFL in your home state who can transfer it to you.
(Active military on orders is different in what constitutes a state of residence.)
That would be involving both of you in federal felonies. Let's not go there!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what about dropping it a gun shot to sell it on consignment at a price that it is unlikely to sell? ...
That may work, legally.Correct me if I'm wrong,
18 U.S. Code § 922 - Unlawful acts
(a)It shall be unlawful—
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(2) for any importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector licensed under the provisions of this chapter to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm to any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, except that—
(A) this paragraph and subsection (b)(3) shall not be held to preclude a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector from returning a firearm or replacement firearm of the same kind and type to a person from whom it was received; and this paragraph shall not be held to preclude an individual from mailing a firearm owned in compliance with Federal, State, and local law to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector;
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(b)It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver—
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(3) any firearm to any person who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the licensee’s place of business is located, except that ...;
See 27 CFR 124(a)(emphasis added):....Now I'm thinking I don't quite have all the pertinent info. Can someone point to "the rest of the story" that defines under what circumstances this is operable?
(a) A licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer shall not sell or otherwise dispose, temporarily or permanently, of any firearm to any person, other than another licensee, unless the licensee records the transaction on a firearms transaction record, Form 4473: Provided, That a firearms transaction record, Form 4473, shall not be required to record the disposition made of a firearm delivered to a licensee for the sole purpose of repair or customizing when such firearm or a replacement firearm is returned to the person from whom received.....