Its beginning...the rats are jumping from the sinking Kerry ship.

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I think it's funny how a guy who fought so hard for his Purple Hearts, and pressed the issue to get each and every medal he thought he had coming to him, chucked them over the fence at the White House a few months later.

The ribbons... I mean medals... no, wait, ribbons, "I don't care if you saw me throw medals, you're wrong"... escapade boggles my mind. He's worried about the semantics of which he threw over the fence.

The issue for me is that the hippy-child threw ANYTHING over the White House fence in protest of the war.
 
"A pro-defense, pro-individual rights, pro-freedom centrist Democrat could have walked away with this election".

The reason they won't do what you suggested is that they are not centrist, pro-defense, pro freedom or any of the other things you describe.

The party, that I used to be a part of, has been hijacked, piece by piece, by a conglomeration of special interests. So concerned about trying to regain power and control over budgets, they now stand for no one.

A lot of groups, Unions, African Americans, and others seem to blindly support a steady parade of rich, white, power brokers running the party for their own personal power and aggrandizement rather than on some principles or core beliefs.

The Republicans are only slightly better in that they do seem to have some core beliefs that they stick to, (most of the time) and are smart enough to understand you can't appeal to everybody about everything or promise to buy the world a Coke on someone else's money.

They had exactly that kind of candidate in Lieberman, not the Lieberman that ran with Algore, but the guy that had been hanging around the Senate, speaking his honest mind for years.

He was literally laughed out of the primaries by the hard core lefties now running the party.

Go over to DU, when your stomach is feeling stronger, and take a look at what Democrats said about this guy when he was running. He has been accussed of being part of the VRWC and in Bush's pocket all year.

Bush has polarized a lot of people in part because he doesn't seem to stick his finger up every twenty minutes to see which way the wind of public opinion is blowing. He makes a decision and goes with it.

It may be hard for some folks to recall, it's been so long, but that is what the President is supposed to do.
 
The village voice ran this? They are one of the most liberal papers in the country, though they are sometimes surprisingly open minded.

Its not "occasional open mindedness."

Its called "even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then."
 
Scary

Sorry I don't have a link to this, but on YahooNews yesterday, the list of Kerry's VP potentials was run. Dianne Feinstein is on that list.:what: :barf:

This is not the way California wishes to get rid of her!
 
Diggler wrote:

I think it's funny how a guy who fought so hard for his Purple Hearts, and pressed the issue to get each and every medal he thought he had coming to him, chucked them over the fence at the White House a few months later.
Yeah, this doesn't seem to make a lot of sense- unless he just wanted the Purple Hearts as a ticket out of Vietnam.
 
I thought I wanted my money back.

ForeignDevil posted a comment that had the terms ".......liberal.....[and]..............open minded," in the same sentence. I just paid a lot of money for a BS filter for my computator and this came through. Then I looked up the term "open-minded." It said "to have a hole in the head." So I won't be asking for my money back.

But on the subject, I sortta go with what ctdonah said. I've been hearing for about a year that the Dems will fall into chaos about the time of the convention and Hitlary will emerge from the gloom clad in a suit of armor and "save" the day. Further, I've heard that this has been engineered by slick and Terry McAwful. Why else would Unca Terry field so many losers and preside over the trashing of Lieberman?

But I could be giving these birds credit for way too much intellect. But, then again, these people, no matter what you think, are NOT stupid. Crooked, Socialist, Liars, Anti-liberty, Anti-American, etc, yes. Stupid, NO.

The beauty of a Hitlary victory now is that we won't have any more elections to waste time and money on.

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Well, yeah, Kerry is a boob...but he is pretty close to 50/50 with Dub.

Yup, I loathe John Kerry too, but it looks like he is making some connections with the "questioning my patriotism" nonsense.

After being ahead up to 4 points the last week, Bush and Kerry are tied in the Rasmussen daily polls, and in the NY Times(not 100% thatit was NYT) Kerry was up 46-44 w/o Nader and only down 1 with Nader.

Can't get too worked up about polls, but still.

I think both campaigns are turning off voters with the endless Vietnam (Kerry threw medals and lied about it! Bush was AWOL!) crap.

Then again, its so early that only partisans are paying attention, and nothing the opposition says or does will be viewed in anything but the most negative light.
 
All's I know is that my 83yo father, hardcore union Democrat since he first voted, has stated that he will vote for Dubya if the Dem's run that thing called Hillary!

Note that I am not saying he has a firm opinion on the subject.:rolleyes:
 
I believe Kerry has the necessary votes vis-à-vis the Democratic primaries to win the nomination, so all of this is a moot point.

Kerry is just the set up man, the cooperative stooge, for Hillary in 2008 anyway. He will lose big in 2004. And what does he care? He and his Heinz wife are worth $500 million.

Hillary will challenge in four years.

The Republicans better start thinking about who they are going to run against her right now.
 
the best news I read today is in this topic

and that is the hope that Diane Feinstein would be the VP nominee. It's actually a day-brightener.

Here in MN, the DFL (Democratic Farmer-Labor, the local variant) continues to isolate itself, and it can't figure out why. It has about seven to ten hard-core Progressive-types (from the metro, natch) who continue to dominate the party strategy.

They continue to appeal to Victimology, and they were, of course, the flak-jacket jackasses that put on this huge show in the Senate 'debate' over our carry bill.

Their recent stunt is that in the State Senate (which they control by about the thinnest of margins) they have taken to blocking the Gubernatorial Appointees--and have carried the Culture Wars into the Department of Education. They just voted to NOT accept the Education appointee.

So, how does the general population view this: well in the StarTribune, a rag noted for its liberal bias, they have been running a poll--and, although we all know how to work these polls, I don't know of any general conservative vote bloc doing that--so last night, the public opinion was that 87% of those polling considered this move to be either 1) Democratic politics as usual, or 2) Democratic attempts to blindside the governor.

It truly is a party bent on self-destruction.
 
They do not have any conception of WHEN to stop pushing. They have received almost every whinology program they have wanted for 70 years. Now we are overtaxed and broke. They want even more.

It truly is a party bent on self-destruction.

I'll bet on that horse.
 
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