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It's Here:)!!(pics added..)

After the longest weekend ever:)(),the Surefire M73 quad rail non-free float forend I ordered last week arrived today. I got the last one they had in stock, so a possible backorder slip got turned into a weekend wait :neener: !

I think I will be very happy with my purchase. The rails appear to be much closer to,"mill spec", than the First Samco M33 Handgurard(that will now hold the light for my pistol), which would make sense with the Surefire being machined aluminum. The two "set screws" tension the handguard forward and backwards against the handguard cap, and the delta ring are small but seem very sturdy. Install took all of 2 minutes from removing the old handguards, to tightening the second set screw. Nothing else required. While I have not fired any rounds yet, my Bushie M4 is now seriously pimping! I figured why spend another $150-$200 on a Free Float tube to sqeak out the ultimate in accuracy on a close quarters, mutant zombie, TEOTWAWKI fighting carbine. I mean, if I need to take a 300yrd+ shot with my M4 I am probably screwed anyway due to velocity loss, and the miniscule accuracy increase is just not worth it on a 14 1/2" H-bar rifle. I would like to hear from anyone else that has a good or bad review of a surefire(or other)non-free float handguard. Screws loose, out of spec rails, perfect fit, best purchase ever; whatever you got I want to know. So gimme your gripes and top picks, but please keep it non-free float tubes, you know the ones for us frugal people(read as: po' fokes)

PS- I installed the forend but have not used LOCKTITE(recommended by Surefire) to secure the set screws yet. Question: Where do I find Locktite(242 specifically)? I mean, is it at Walli World, or do I need to look somewhere else :confused: ? Thanx in advance for the help, and if you know how to use it(I am sure it is simple but I like info), I would appreciate it.

PSS- If someone will tell me how to post a pic of my now Pimped out AR, I will. Currently it has the A3 carry handle mounted, with 4x fixed .223 bullet drop compensated scope mounted high up top(100-500 yds compensated),
A2 stock(next to be rectified ;), Surefire forend with forward mounted Panorama red-dot scope(Japanese),and Scorpion flashlight in a First Samco mount( and no all that will not stay on there, even though it's still as light as my loaded AK, but the M4's got 2 scopes and rails that = BLING)

Daytime: No flashlight, Both optics(I got bad eyes for a young guy)
Nighttime: NO 4x fixed scope, add flashlight

I do not believe I will add a forward grip, because even with ALL the above mentioned crap on the M4 at one time AND a loaded magazine it still feels light and fairly easy to handle(I can still point and hold it straight out like a pistol with one arm, and without falling over.
Too Many Choices(and now I got a lot more, ain't options great?:evil: !!)
 
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Question: Where do I find Locktite(242 specifically)? I mean, is it at Walli World, or do I need to look somewhere else ? Thanx in advance for the help, and if you know how to use it(I am sure it is simple but I like info), I would appreciate it.
If Wally World doesn't have it, they'll have the eqivalent made by another company (Permatex). You'll find it in the automotive section. Anyway, Permatex Blue works just like Loctite 242 in my experience. I've used it to mount scope bases and the like. If you want Loctite 242 specifically, you should be able to find it at almost any hardware or automotive store or Home Depot.

Just put a small dab of it on the threads of the screw. You don't need to coat the whole thread area or you'll have problems getting the screw back off (sans propane torch) should you ever choose to. Just a small dab on one side of the threads wherever contact will be made should work fine.
 
This thread is USELESS without PICTURES! ;)

Glad to hear you're happy with your purchase, have fun with it!

S/F

Farnham
 
If you walk me through the process I have a pretty good Digi Cam...

But hi-tech ain't exactly my thing, neither is lo-tech but that's another story :scrutiny: ...
Thanx about the Locktite. As soon as possible I will get a pick up. Man is this thing sweet. I feel like a kid with a new transformer,it is definitely More Than Meets The Eye :scrutiny: ...
 
I think a walkthrough of picture posting can be seen in the "questions for the staff" section of THR. A sticky, I believe. Go, read, understand, use, let us see your stuff :D
 
I swear this crap only happens to me, I just don't understand..l

Hey Rey thanks againfor the advice on permatex, but the Powers That Be are not with me tonight. Went to Walli World to get the Locktite or Permatex, and find Permatex, so I bUy some. I get home to glue everything tight and upon opening the package, find the frickin' bottle is empty :eek: :banghead:. Now I am home and don't want to go back ALL THE WAY to Walli World,and unable to get this done till later :fire: ...

Oh well, I am going to take your advice Eightball, I shall, go, seek, and find....Hopefully tonight. :D
 
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Oh man, that sucks. Sorry, dude!

Hey wait... Just out of curiosity, I checked the bottle I have (2.5 ml), which I haven't used in probably 4-5 months. It's been in my tool chest in the garage. Anyway, the stuff wouldn't come out no matter how hard I squeezed it, but as soon as I jammed a paper clip down the nozzle, it flowed freely. If you haven't yet, you might want to try that. Probably just a bottle that's been on the shelf a while.
 
Just wanna add a pick or 3, lol

Thanx for the advice if this works Eightball :)...

Ask and you shall receive :D ...

Pic 1. Shows the now Permatexed, surefire handgurard by itself without the rail covers.

Pic 2. Shows the Bling I have on the rails and top: at 12:00 is my Panorama red dot/w 4reticle patterns, and at 9:00 I have my Scorpion Flashlight(leaning on it against the wall), with the 4Xfixed objective socpe up top...

Thanx again guys for all the great advice. I will try to get maybe 1 more pic up later as it is rainy out now and these were the best two of about 20 pics I tried to grab before it got too dark :( .

Too Many Choices!?
 

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Thanx Ray,

Now my SHTF, mutant zombie head shot, EOTWAWKI, close quarters fighting carbine only needs a telescoping stock and 3 way tac-sling to complete the evolution of this "Po' Man's" tricked out M4(maybe a forward pistol grip and bi-pod just so I can have all the possible incarnations out there :evil: )

The AR-15 make a hell of a nice, but expensive, grown man's Erector Set:). Best wishes. Good shooting.

PS- I took off everthing but the forward mounted dot sight(just so you know I am not that tactical, lol)

Too Many Choices!?
 
Yeah Spiff, I thought you told me that in a PM..

I got mine from Eagle Firearms website and it was only 182 shipped, so I didn't complain. Did you get yours directly from Surefire? I used permatex instead and will find out how it hold up at the range tommorow. Maybe take some target pics to show if the mount holds zero(now that I can post pics that is :eek: )
 
nah, i work on the weekends for wild west guns, they hooked me up.

now you are mounting your optic to the foreend, right? not on the carry handle or the spot where the carry handle would be? notice how tight that fit is of the m73, properly installed it will not budge.
 
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