It's official. Senate votes to support lawbreakers.

[RealGun]

Of those 15 GOP Senators (or their seats) up for reelection (Class I), 10 voted Nay and 5 voted Yea. The Yeas were Chafee (RI), DeWine (OH), Frist (TN) (not running), Lugar (IN), and Snowe (ME). None of those are from southern border States.

Of the Democrats up for election, Byrd (WV), Nelson (NE), and Stabenow (MI) voted NAY.

The two (D) abstentions are from Senators not up for reelection.

 

[bfieldburt]

How mad and motivated are you?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=467940

 

[RealGun]

Gang of 14 (moderates)

Of the gang of 14, only two Democrats voted NAY, and they are both up for reelection. Another Democrat, Salazar, abstained. The Republicans were unanimous (YEA).

So I think it could be fair to say that more conservative Republicans (32 of them) voted against the bill in strength. I would then dispute a broad indictment of the GOP based upon the bills passage. What would be fair is a comment about their lack of unity and how a clearly Democrat bill passes in a GOP dominated Senate.

Gang of 14

Republicans

Y * John S. McCain III, Arizona
Y * Lindsey O. Graham, South Carolina
Y * John Warner, Virginia
Y * Olympia Snowe, Maine
Y * Susan M. Collins, Maine
Y * R. Michael DeWine, Ohio
Y * Lincoln Chafee, Rhode Island

Democrats

Y * Joseph I. Lieberman, Connecticut
N * Robert C. Byrd, West Virginia
N * E. Benjamin Nelson, Nebraska
Y * Mary Landrieu, Louisiana
Y * Daniel Inouye, Hawaii
Y * Mark Pryor, Arkansas
A * Ken Salazar, Colorado

 

[wingman]

My understanding is we have 5 possible senators(republican) that may run for the white house in 08 only one of those voted nay on this bill and that was Sen. George Allen many think we will forget in 2 years but I will remember and vote accordingly.

 

[Biker]

Oh, it gets better. Apparanly, a last minute ammendment was tacked on stating that we had to get approval from Mexico's government before we can build a fence on our southern border.

Biker

 

[Desertdog]

I am going to go over the vote tally and see how Republicans voted who will be up for election in November.

I am glad to say that I never voted for one of my Senators and when I write them I get dribble in return.

Acccording to the my asentee ballot there is a Republican running for the US Senate but I have not heard one word of advertisement for him yet. Since he is the only one on the Republican ballot I guess there is no need.

The Deems have 2 candidates running against Feinstein in the primary but not a word fromthem either.

Since I believe there is a merciful God, may he step in and cause some retirements due to health or of law enforcement of the worse ones in there now.

In the meantime I will start working for and donateing to the Republican candidates.

 

[Manedwolf]

Apparently, our legislators have decided that illegal aliens deserve more legal rights and benefits than do citizens.

So now, illegally entering the country, falsifying official documents, perhaps even identity theft, will be met with "amnesty".

Anyone care to guess what would happen if a CITIZEN falsified official documents related to social security or taxes? I think "federal prison" would be the end result. But...illegals get a Get Out of Jail Free card?

I sincerely hope that members of the SAME party run as challengers as well against incumbents this fall, because I think it's time to literally "throw the bums out"...every single one that's complicit on this.

 

[wingman]

In terms of cost alone this is a disaster for this country.

 

[boofus]

Anyone care to guess what would happen if a CITIZEN falsified official documents related to social security or taxes? I think "federal prison" would be the end result. But...illegals get a Get Out of Jail Free card?

Quite right. If a citizen tried any of the things like producing a false social security number. Using a false SSN. Failing to pay federal income tax. Failing to pay social security. Failing to register for selective service and other crimes routinely committed by illegal aliens the citizen could face 20+ years in prison.

That's enough to cover a sentence for a murder isn't it? Hell many illegal aliens DO get away with murder. They kill someone in the US and then just go back to Mexico where they can't be extradited to the US. Come back and change their name to Pedro instead of Jose and they are good to go in the eyes of the law.

 

[jondar]

PCF

Thanks very much for the lists. I was appalled to see one of my Senators (Brownback) had voted for the bill. Shouldn't have been surprised tho, he has steadily become a RINO over the years. I emailed both senators yesterday before the vote and implored them to study the opinions of Senators Sessions and Kyl. My other Senator, Pat Roberts, voted against the bill.

 

[wingman]

Make note of McCain who supports this fully. personally I would not vote for him now for "any" office.

 

[pcf]

Here's the real problem with the "guest worker program" or defacto amnesty.

A business can illegally hire and illegal alien for $4 an hour who will work 100 hours a week - $400 dollars for 100 hours of labor per week. That same business will be have to hire 3 "guest workers" at minimum wage, pay half their FICA tax, and buy into a workers comp program. The employer will have to pay about $12 an hour to employee a "guest worker". $1200 for 100 hours of labor per week.

Why would any business that has no qualms about illegally hiring illegal aliens - to save money - want to spend three times as much to hire guest workers? The only thing a guest worker program will do is keep the door open for more illegal aliens.

280plus, call OSHA. They love to smack people with $100k fines for workplace safety violations.

 

[seeker_two]

My 2 senators voted against that criminal shamnesty. I don't have a representative in the house because of that grand jury shopping bastard ronnie earle. Not only does the senate let the invader felons (using false SSN to get a job IS a felony) get off free, they intend to redistribute my hard earned wealth to them in the form of social security without representation.

We have the same Senators, but I'm putting Hutchison on the chopping block this time. The Republicans have to get the message that their position on this is national suicide (and Hutchison voted FOR other travesties like the Patriot Act, Medicare "Reform", and McCain-Feingold... )

And my congressman/ Bush sycophant, Joe Barton, is close to joining her on the block...

I'm not sure about the rooftops, but I'm thinking a "Window War" may be timely...

 

[slzy]

the companies who have hired illegal aliens should be liqudated,the assets used to fund severance pay and transit costs of the illegal aliens back to their home countrys. any money left over should go to the fence fund,or pay deputys to guard the border. the amnestys and compromises are much like the this country made with the slavocrats from 1789 till 1865. i.e.;3/5s compromise,fugitive slave acts,Missouri compromise,Kansas Nebraska act,and now with the Senates treacery,our own Dred Scott decision. it was at that point the free men of the Union said enough.then a great national calamity occured. but the system that gave a unfair economic advantage to the slavocrats was burned out root and branch.

 

[Marshall]

I sent my statements of discontent to Frist and the RNC/GOP as well.

 

[boofus]

Would it be possible to file for a writ of mandamus with the Supreme Court to FORCE bush to abide by the existing immigration laws?

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m079.htm

According to that link the Supreme Court may compel any inferior court or US government office holder to perform their lawful duties. As chief of the executive branch Bush can be commanded by the SCOTUS to execute the immigration laws already on the books.

 

[Desertdog]

Make note of McCain who supports this fully. personally I would not vote for him now for "any" office.

Would you in AZ be any worse of if you had a Dem for Senator?

 

[longeyes]

Oh, it gets better. Apparanly, a last minute ammendment was tacked on stating that we had to get approval from Mexico's government before we can build a fence on our southern border.

You can thank Sen. S.P.E.C.T.R.E. for that one.

A lawless government should expect lawlessness.

 

[wingman]

Would you in AZ be any worse of if you had a Dem for Senator?

McCain is voting Democrat appears to me, and while I am not in AZ. I will vote
against him if he runs in 2008 for president he is more of what we have now.

 

[longeyes]

Narco-America is on the way, folks.

Enjoy.