Joe Biden's Ignorance and The Anti gun community in general.

[btg3]

...the firearms argument is the new Civil Rights battle with firearms owners fighting the same bigotry that our black citizens fought in the previous Civil Rights movement.

Perhaps only in a snapshot perspective. Fast forward -- while the demographic has increased for black citizens, I fear that it continues to decrease for gun owners. Does anyone have data over the past 50+ years for personal firearms per capita in the USA? In essence, gun owners may be heading for minority status unless we pass this part of our heritage along to the next generation. Given what the the public schools teach about guns and what the media exposure portrays, what projection might be likely for RKBA in just 1 or 2 more generations?

 

[gym]

As I read this I started thinking, the cities and states with the highest wage and best jobs, "which are also the most expensive to live in", have the most restrictve gun laws. Like NY- 3-10 grand a month to live in Manhatten, LA-,Beverly Hills, DC-most of the areas around the Capitol,Chicago, the home of the commodities exchange.
Is it that they don't trust educated people with guns, or educated people don't care for guns. If they are so smart,and command 6 figure plus salaries, why would they worry that someone is going to go crazy and shoot them?
The states with lower wages, less unions, like the Southern and Western states, have the best gun laws, "as far as pro gun". If we aren't as sophisticated and "intelligent" as they are, then how come we can get along without shooting each other as they would like us to believe.
The crime rates in those high wage states are amoung the highest in the country, it seems like an easy thing to figure out, their way doesn't work.What else is there to think about? Are more educated people more dangerous when weapons are thrown into the mix? Not to say there aren't just as many educated folks elseware, they just don't feel it's important to pay 4 times the amount of money for the same, food clothing and shelter to live in a city that has rules on how much soda you can drink, and how much fat is in your burger.
All that goes to the control of the citizens by the government, and everytime they pass more restrictive legislation it effects everyone somehow.It's simplly "you're going to do what we tell you period". The gun issue is the tipping point, as once they disarm us, then how can we possiblly be a threat to stopping such dictitorial thinking, it only requires a few men with guns, to control many without guns. This is why our forefathers stuck that 2nd ammendmant in there, for exactlly what is going on now.

 

[Toml]

Joe Biden is feigning ignorance so that others around him may appear to be reasonable, knowledgable, reassuring, competent, your favorite rock star, &tc.

 

[JustinJ]

As I read this I started thinking, the cities and states with the highest wage and best jobs, "which are also the most expensive to live in", have the most restrictve gun laws. Like NY- 3-10 grand a month to live in Manhatten, LA-,Beverly Hills, DC-most of the areas around the Capitol,Chicago, the home of the commodities exchange.
Is it that they don't trust educated people with guns, or educated people don't care for guns. If they are so smart,and command 6 figure plus salaries, why would they worry that someone is going to go crazy and shoot them?
The states with lower wages, less unions, like the Southern and Western states, have the best gun laws, "as far as pro gun". If we aren't as sophisticated and "intelligent" as they are, then how come we can get along without shooting each other as they would like us to believe.

There is no monolithic class of people in the places you refer to. No, they don't think to themselves, everybody here is highly educated and such people are not capable of handling guns. A higher proportion of highly educated people does not mean all people are such. The states you refer to tend to have extremely large urban areas with high population density and a wide diversity of economic classes, cultures and ethnicities. Such areas tend to have very high crime rates for various reasons. The states then pass draconian gun laws in response.

 

[AlbertH]

The crime rates in those high wage states are amoung the highest in the country, it seems like an easy thing to figure out, their way doesn't work.What else is there to think about? Unfortunately this is not the case, unless you are talking sheer numbers alone. If your talking per capita, unfortunately, low wages, illiteracy, crime, and killings seem to go hand in hand. The prime example is Michigan, Detroit by itself has one of the highest crime and murder rates in the country as well as one of the highest percentages poverty, BUT when you take Michigan as a whole, it is ranked 27 as far as crime goes per capita.

In reality, the higher the property tax rate and property values, the lower the crime rate for public services such as police and fire are not free.

 

[jamesbeat]

If THR members are typical, I have been pleasantly surprised at how diverse, intelligent and tolerant gun owners have been.
I have read many powerful anti- racism and ant- homophobic posts on this forum, and to say that many members advocate equality for women is an understatement.
I myself am a British immigrant, and have had many members say 'Welcome to America!' when I have mentioned it in my posts.

One thing is for sure, guns make everybody equal, and the general feel of THR is that members here heartily approve of that aspect of firearms ownership.

I think that the antis' stereotype of gun owners is so wrong that it would be funny if they didn't keep trying to take our guns away.

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

" The arguments against firearms ownership reek of lack of critical thinking which is in turn a sign of having been through some college or university."

That is a broad statement coming out of frustration. I've watched PC or agenda based thinking churned out since the "Free Speech" (as long as you read OUR script) movement. The anti gun attitude is too often rampant in cities and regions that consider themselves the seats of academia.

I'm sure there are many who make it through and gain something--I've gone to two universities in California and come out libertarian--but the noise ratio is disheartening.