Judge allows discrimination against volunteer border-patrol group

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crazed_ss said:
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/110168.shtml

Here's a cool video of minutemen claiming that they're going to "engage" some protesters. Funny, but sad.
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2005/07/109907.mov
Once again you're being blatantly dishonest. Chase stated that people *not* associated with the Minutemen, people running their own patrol, may have been the rougues. Meanwhile, the Mexican police state that the shootings occured on the Mexican side of the border and were likely done by robbers. So much for your credibility.
Biker
 
Robbers who didnt steal anything?

How convenient. Everytime one of these guys screws up.. they're "rogue" or splinter groups who arent associated with the movement.
 
Guess we'll continue to believe what we want.

One thing's for certain.. threatening to "engage" protesters in a firefight and suspicous shootings in the area of minutemen patrols wont get them invited to any parades in SoCal in the near future.
 
That's okay The Minutemen will do their most important parading along the border, making life more difficult for the invaders.;)
Biker
 
Merkin.Muffley President
Bush identified these "minutemen" as vigilantes. Vigilantes have no place marching in America.
vig·i·lan·te
Pronunciation: "vi-j&-'lan-tE
Function: noun
Etymology: Spanish, watchman, guard, from vigilante vigilant, from Latin vigilant-, vigilans
: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law appear inadequate); broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice
- vig·i·lan·tism /-'lan-"ti-z&m/ noun
I still have not heard anything of the MM doing anything but observe and report.

a self-appointed doer of justice
is NOT what the MM is doing from what I have heard. As said over and over, ovserve and report.

Observe and report to BP, is not the same as see and punish.
 
crazed_ss said:
Guess we'll continue to believe what we want.

One thing's for certain.. threatening to "engage" protesters in a firefight and suspicous shootings in the area of minutemen patrols wont get them invited to any parades in SoCal in the near future.
No, Crazed ss, I exposed you as a liar when you stated that Chase said that the shooters were rogues from his group. You've done a disservice to the Minutemen who include a lot of men and women, from a number of races, with your dishonesty.
You have no honor.
Biker
 
Biker said:
No, Crazed ss, I exposed you as a liar when you stated that Chase said that the shooters were rogues from his group. You've done a disservice to the Minutemen who include a lot of men and women, from a number of races, with your dishonesty.
You have no honor.
Biker

Lol.. what are you a Klingon?

"Jim Chase of the California Minutemen admitted to the San Diego press this week that “rogue” Minutemen shot 2 unarmed Mexicans at the California border near Campo Saturday night. “The rogue theory is absolutely true,” he said.

Chase claimed no one in his formal organization has fired a weapon, and that he has turned away “extremists,” but that he’s encountered “rogue” patrols.

Mexican officials have meanwhile contradicted their original claim that the 2 Mexican nationals were shot by “bandits” – a claim the victims flatly denied. Authorities now say it is uncertain who shot the migrants.
Jose Rivera Perez was shot below the left knee while waiting to cross the border about 20 yards south of the steel fence that slices through the desert. His group was approached, Rivera said, by a masked assailant who, when they began to run, fired on them.

Rivera said he was not robbed, according to the Union Tribune. “If he were a bandit he would have robbed us and taken everything. He only shot at us and ran,” Rivera said.
A second man, Carlos Estrada Martinez, said he was shot some 200 yards on the US side of the border when, according to the Union Tribune, “he saw a laser dot tracing up and down the front of his body” before he was hit by the third of three shots fired in the darkness. Estrada also said he was not robbed."

Did you read the article?
Read before you post.

EDIT: Did you watch the video of the minute cursing and threatening to shoot those people? If those minutemen are potraits of "honor", then I guess I dont have any honor.
 
+1, Biker and Longeyes!!!

Newguy Merkin, if you believe something just because President Bush says it, I've got some beachfront property in Nevada I'll sell you very cheaply...

Way to GO, Minutemen! And I thought the parade float idea was amusing.
 
crazed_ss said:
Lol.. what are you a Klingon?

"Jim Chase of the California Minutemen admitted to the San Diego press this week that ?rogue? Minutemen shot 2 unarmed Mexicans at the California border near Campo Saturday night. ?The rogue theory is absolutely true,? he said.

Chase claimed no one in his formal organization has fired a weapon, and that he has turned away ?extremists,? but that he?s encountered ?rogue? patrols. "

Did you read the article?
Read before you post.

EDIT: Did you watch the video of the minute cursing and threatening to shoot those people? If those minutemen are potraits of "honor", then I guess I dont have any honor.
You're pathalogical. Chase did not say that "two rogue Minutemen shot two unarmed Mexicans" anywhere in the links you posted.
And no, you have no honor. If you told me that water was wet, I'd have to stick my hand in a bucket of it before I believed you.
You and honesty are pretty much strangers, ss.
Biker:)
 
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Bumped to make sure that crazed ss didn't miss the rebuttal and can defend his alleged transgressions.;)
Biker
 
I replied.. see post #59

EDIT: See post #51 for where I originally posted the link that had Chases alledged statements.
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/110168.shtml
You'll no doubt attack the source of the link.. but that's fine since everyone here posts links from worldnetdaily, newsmax, and freerepublic.

We'll choose to believe what you want... but like it you said in the other thread about me..
"If you're lookin' like one, walkin' like one and quackin' like one, and you are, ya gotta wonder."

Same goes for the minutemen.
 
crazed_ss said:
I replied.. see post #59

EDIT: See post #51 for where I originally posted the link that had Chases alledged statements.
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/110168.shtml
You'll no doubt attack the source of the link.. but that's fine since everyone here posts links from worldnetdaily, newsmax, and freerepublic.

We'll choose to believe what you want... but like it you said in the other thread about me..
"If you're lookin' like one, walkin' like one and quackin' like one, and you are, ya gotta wonder."

Same goes for the minutemen.
Another falsehood. If you go back to the source of your faux source, you'll see that the quote was pieced together from a number of quotes, removing all context from the original. Again, a blatant attempt to misrepresent the truth. You don't seem to have a problem with that, do you? The Minutemen are represented by retired military, LE and various other Americans, of a number of races and religions, who have an interest in preserving our (maybe not yours) country's laws and borders. You might feel more comfortable siding up with MS-13 who've vowed to grease some of the Minutemen.
In fact, I strongly suspect that you would feel more comfortable on that side of the fence.
Now, is water wet?
Biker
 
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