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Just Bought a 16 ga. I must be nuts

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Loyalist Dave

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I just bought a CZ 16 ga. S x S "bobwhite" with the straight stock. I've never paid that much for a modern production gun in my life, but as the salesman said (a 16 ga. disciple), Why be common place?.

Anybody try those adaptors for the breech that let you shoot 20 ga in a 16? I ask as my daughter shoots 20 ga. and I can see myself being able to find shells for her but not for me.

LD
 
A friend of mine got some to shoot 28 gauge in his 12 gauge. They worked great on the skeet field, good patterns, clays broke well. Only hassle is that you have to take them out of the gun to poke the shells out. A minor inconvenience. I would think that the small change from 16 down to 20 gauge would work very well for you.
 
SM, Was that a flask that guy in the picture was passing? Im sure that the 16ga was more popular in his day that it is today. Most stores here don't carry it and those that do are limited to #6 or #8 field loads. I never liked purple shotgun shells.
 
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For whatever reason the 16 ga. has generally been more popular overseas. In the earlier shot gunning days here the "Sweet Sixteen" in A-5 and Mod. 12 were popular but that has faded away.

No doubt skeet competition in 12, 20, 28, and 410 didn't help. And some say in the loadings available then, the 16 was too close to the 12 and the 20 to be of much specific value. I think most of this thinking occurred prior to plastic shot column wads being the norm..

Some of the really old guys still claim the shot column length to width of the 16 ga. is ideal for shot patterns.

As a kid I had an old double barrel exposed hammer 16 ga. and used it for everything from quail to ducks and never felt under gunned. Of course that was the only shotgun I owned too !
 
I've got a Winchester M12, Ithaca M37, and Browning A5, all in 16 ga.

That group of guns sees a lot of upland duty and performs well. If the selection of ammo locally isn't that great, then use the Internet for a wider selection. Two of mine (the M12 and A5) feature 2 9/16" chambers, so I special order ammo for them. I picked up the M37 so that I'd have one that I could use "store bought" ammo.

One of my goals for this year is to find a decent patterning bismuth load and use the Model 37 for duck hunting in the fall.

All that being said, I don't think there's any great magic about a 16ga. IMO, it shoots 7/8 or an ounce of shot well, and if the frame is scaled right, is a little lighter than a 12ga. Of course, the same can be said of a 20ga, but those tend to be even lighter.

For me, the 16ga provides a bit of nostalgia and is just enough different to be interesting... plus the shells don't rattle around in 12ga-sized shell loops as badly as 20ga. Also, there is often less demand for 16ga guns (especially older short-chambered models), so good deals can be found on the used racks. I picked up my Model 12 and A5 for about 1/2 to 2/3rds of the price that similar 12ga models would have cost.

Unfortunately, this "cost savings" hasn't gone unnoticed and I've watched prices for 16ga models climb rapidly over the past few years.

In any event, you've got a good gun that's a little off the beaten path.
 
I have always had a hankering for the 16 GA. Damned if I know why, but lamented their decline and lack of availability. Thought I'd read threads recently that they were being re-introduced. Is that correct?
 
telomerase - You are correct that chambering a shell in the wrong gauge gun can be a severe problem. In particular a 20ga shell will fit into the chamber of a 12ga and slip past into the barrel where it will hang up. A subsequent 12ga shell behind it can fully chamber and fire, which is bad considering the 20ga shell would act as a barrel obstruction.

Gauge-reducers are little tubes machined to fit the chambers of break-open shotguns. For example, if you have a 12ga-to-20ga reducer, you would insert the 20ga shell into the reducer. The whole thing would then fit into the chamber of the 12ga. Once it is fired, the whole thing (shell and reducer) are ejected and you poke the empty hull out of the reducer. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

I've used 12ga-to-28ga reducers in a NEF single, and they've done just fine.

If I were using a break open 16ga to hunt someplace far from home, I'd take a pair of 16ga-to-20ga reducers, just in case I needed to buy ammo and couldn't find 16ga shells.
 
I love the 16 Ga. and yep, I'm an old fart. Only repeater I have now is this Rem 870 16. Had a SXS double yrs ago and foolishly let it get away. I like the way they handle. Bit harder to find some types of shells but they're available, only a bit more costly. Never had a problem of being at a disadvantage when hunting with friends using 12 Ga. guns.

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Well, my dad swears by his pre-sweet 16 Browning A5 in 16. I went to the trouble of getting a second barrel for him, and having it fit for screw in chokes, leaving the original barrel in full choke alone. Now he can hunt anything 'cept deer with it.

My younger brother got an old Remington 16 SxS for very little money, but still I wasn't interested.

Then I saw this straight stocked 16 gauge CZ SxS, and fell in love, but didn't buy it, as I had a 20 and a twelve, and why did I need a 16? So I did some reading, and well, it hits better (in theory) at longer range than my 20, even if it's using the same weight of shot. I find that there seems to be a surge of different ammo available with lots of European stuff coming in that wasn't available a few years back. Finally, I wanted a really nice SxS.

There are several types of gauge reducers available, and some claim extractors or ejectors will still work in the guns. That way I can shoot 20 ga in case I run out at the range (they don't carry 16 target loads). I'll let you know after I test 'em out.

I shot it today..., I hit a clay bird waaay beyond what I would have even tried with my 20 ga. So I'm pleased.

LD
 
My first gun was a Bolt action JC Higgins 16 , tube feed with polychoke. I was 11 or so and they had to radically cut it down for me. When I got too big for about 2" of spacers and a pad , it dissappeared and I got a 20 ga. Ithaca 37, which I still have 45 years later:eek:
I been getting into 16 guage lately with my Winchester 1897, for nostalgia hunts with old timers. For the snooty Pheasant and quail preserve shoots I usually take my Darne 16 guage for the last 18 years. Right at 6 pounds and stands right up there with 20-30K$ "english" SXSs:D
The 16 guage with 1 oz of 7.5 shot is just right for winged game IMHO.Sure a 20 ga. or 28 ga. gun is faster on the closer shots , maybe, but certainly NOT any more deadlier. The 12ga. can be a little much in a 6 pound gun!:eek: "The oldtimers" are absolutely correct about 'short shot strings' making for more uniform patterns. Anybody NOT believing this take a .410 with 3/4 oz of shot in a full choke gun and a 28ga with 3/4 oz of shot and shoot a 30 yard pattern or two.
 
Skeeters Gauge Reducers

They may work fine with Target Loads but they have a tendency to stick when you use game loads.

I learned the hard way.

Had my L.C. Smith 16 gauge and was shooting 20 ga. in the 16 to 20 reducers. Dogs pointed a covey and I fired twice and spent the next half hour trying to get the darn hulls out of the Skeeters. Ruined one and totally soured myself on the product.

mtjim
 
You're not nuts

Just because the 16 isn't as popular as it once was, doesn't mean it's not a fine chambering. I love my Win. mod.12 chambered in 16 ga. When you find ammo, buy a bunch!


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