Knoxx Tactical Stock - overkill for an H&R Pardner 12 gauge??

[JFrame]

J, it's possible, but.....

The standard wooden stock has 200 years of R&D behind it. The springers have maybe 20. Many fine shooters do no better with the springers and some worse. Darn near everyone has a decrease in effectiveness using the AR style stuff on shotguns, poor cheek weld, slower mounts etc.

In your shoes, I'd try a fitted standard stock and shoot it vs a Knoxx for both time and score,then go with the winner.

Dave -- thank you for the additional input!

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[JFrame]

Unless the Knoxx is adding more weight to the gun over the wooden stock it cannot reduce actual recoil- laws of physics and all that......Recoil pads and other devices can reduce the perceived recoil (aka "felt"). Proper-fitting of the wooden stock does the same thing. Having a stock that is too short or too long will increase the perceived recoil.

Reducing the actual recoil involves using a heavy gun with light loads. The effects of actual recoil damage are cumulative over time and may go unnoticed for quite some time. Perceived recoil effects (bruised cheek, etc.) are immediately realized and disappear over time.

Agreed -- I believe everyone (including myself) is talking about the reduction in perceived recoil, not a reduction in recoil per se. The Knoxx stocks accomplish this through the mechanics of stretching the impetus of the recoil over time and space.

Hopefully, we'll see the advent of truly recoilless hand firearms with the phased pulse rifle...

(Although the short-lived rocket pistol of some decades ago also probably fit the bill... )

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[Six]

Recoil free is easy, just create a shell that sends a projectile in both directions...

 

[JFrame]

Recoil free is easy, just create a shell that sends a projectile in both directions...

I think we should discuss some potential design pitfalls first...

 

[Mr. T]

I would say checkout ATI for their collapsible stocks. I have one on my Mossberg 835. I only spent $67 on it and it works and feels awesome. I like the collapsible stock on it for getting the length of pull right where I want it. It has made that gun much more stable to shoot slugs from. Anyway just an option over the Knoxx and it's high cost. ATI makes stocks for most of the major manufacturers also.

 

[JFrame]

I would say checkout ATI for their collapsible stocks. I have one on my Mossberg 835. I only spent $67 on it and it works and feels awesome. I like the collapsible stock on it for getting the length of pull right where I want it. It has made that gun much more stable to shoot slugs from. Anyway just an option over the Knoxx and it's high cost. ATI makes stocks for most of the major manufacturers also.

I was able to get my SpecOps stocks for $83 each when Natchez had them on sale in July. Even without the sale price, I think they can still be had for about $95 if one shops around.

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[Beaux Nehr]

Unless the Knoxx is adding more weight to the gun over the wooden stock it cannot reduce actual recoil- laws of physics and all that......Recoil pads and other devices can reduce the perceived recoil (aka "felt"). Proper-fitting of the wooden stock does the same thing. Having a stock that is too short or too long will increase the perceived recoil.

I guess you've never ridden in a car with a shot suspension, then

I agree with Dave though, the OP should find out what fits him best, and go with that.