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Larue "Iron-Dot" mount/sight for Kalashnikov rifles

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I like it. It looks solid enough. It sits nice and low. It looks like you can use the irons through the Red Dot. Heck, it's a LaRue.

I am currently using a "Scout Mount" setup on my AK, which I like, but this LaRue setup looks like an even better option.
 
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I have no investment in either product, nor have I handled either one. But the Scout Mount looks much more sturdy, and obviously more versatile in terms of choice of optics. Higher line of sight too, which is an asset/liability depending on your ideas about such things.
 
Thoughts on a sight that requires ambient light to function?

From the Burris website:
The integrated control circuit adjusts the brightness of the aiming
dot according to surrounding light levels.
The brightness sensor on the front of the sight senses the light
level in the direction of the target and modifies the intensity of the
dot accordingly so that it is not overpowering in low light while
remaining highly visible in bright daylight.
Be careful not to obstruct the sensor. Clean if necessary.
Covering the sensor with your finger will affect the electronics
only slightly. If you wish to check its function, cover the sensor
with the protective cover.
To ensure immediate functionality, the light-emitting diode will
remain on even in complete darkness but uses such a small
amount of energy that you can expect a service life of up to 4
years.
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I'd imagine it's as rigid as the current sight leaf since it uses the same leaf spring. My sight leaf doesn't move.

And yes, you can co-witness irons through the sight.
 
Looks like a really sharp piece of kit. Also looks like it should work in a Tantal with zero drama, and might even work on a vz.58 . . .
 
Wow. That is an ingenius solution. The usual problem with mounts replacing the rear slight is that you've replaced the rear sight. This has a rear sight, mounts the optic nice and low (my prefered height for the AK), allows access to the dustcover, and is probably rock solid.

Very, very nice.

Mike
 
That looks really interesting. I currently have Mojo rear sights on 2 of my 3 AKs. The LaRue mount looks like a nice way to add optics without adding much bulk.
 
I've a Burris FastFire on one of my 1911s it works as advertised. The quoted price for the "system" of $285 is not too unreasonable given that the FastFire itself runs $160-180 plus another $25-30 for a handgun specific mount.

I suspect one of these will be in my future.

--wally.
 
btw
Thoughts on a sight that requires ambient light to function?
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The Fastfire does not require ambient light to function. It has a sensor that adjust brightness based upon ambient light. It will, however, work just fine in low light.

Mike
 
Can anyone confirm battery life on the Fast Fire? Burris says 4 years... is that constant on?

I love my Aimpoint for its battery life.
 
wally,

As the owner of a Burris FastFire sight, what is your opinion of battery replacement and windage and elevation adjustments on the Larue setup?

Also, on the Burris are the windage and elevation adjustments done by "clicks" or friction?

Thanks.
 
Can anyone confirm battery life on the Fast Fire? Burris says 4 years... is that constant on?
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When the cover is over the sight, it makes the illumination go to an ultra-low power kind of setting suitable for total darkness. This makes the sight very easy on battery life, but instantly ready to go when uncovered.
 
Windage and Elevation adjustments are a snap, but the range is much smaller than your average scope. Battery life, maybe four years in the dark but shooting in bright sunlight like I usually do, maybe 8-10 hours of actual usage, typically 1-1.5 hours a session, need a fresh battery after 6-8 outings. I suspect it'd be less in continuous use.

OTOH my EOTech haven't lived up to anywhere near their battery life claims.

IMHO anything that depends on batteries that does not have an instantaneous backup available is not a setup to use if someone will be shooting back at you. Night vision equipment excepted.

This one does appear to have instant use of the iron sights if the battery goes dead at a bad moment.

--wally.
 
For durability and combat worthiness, the Ultimak/Aimpoint combo is hard to beat. This unit will have it beat in price and weight, though.

Mike
 
Pretty sweet.
I'll wait to see what other optics LaRue will support with this setup. It may be too tall to co-witness, but I'd love to see one with an Aimpoint Micro.
LaRue has never let me down. I have several of their mounts and ring sets.
Customer service is also top-notch.
 
Aimpoint Micro would be sweet. Dunno if it will cowitness. In truth, though, it may not matter if the optic part is QD. Is it?

I believe pricing is $285, for the whole deal (mount and optic). No idea about availability...it's not yet listed on Larue's own site.

Mike
 
It's listed here: LaRue Tactical AK-IronDot

I'm tempted. I have a FastFire in an IronDot on an AR, and it's a good sight out to 100 yards (for me, perhaps more for the better shooters). Initially I was skeptical about the lack of a manual intensity control, but, while I prefer the manual control of an Aimpoint, it seems to work fairly well. The windage and elevation adjustments require a small (itty-bitty small) screwdriver, and there are no clicks, but I was able to zero it fairly easily. The rear flip up BUIS on the AR IronDot is sufficient, but requires a phillips head to adjust.
 
How useful is the 4 MOA dot past 100 yards?

I have an EOTech with a 1 MOA dot that allows you to shoot pretty much as far as the iron sights would. I guess the irons on an AK aren't so great past 100 yards anyway.

I have a tantal that needs something and this might work and be cheaper than the scout mount. I was also planning on getting another Russian side mounted red dot. I might wait on that.
 
How useful is the 4 MOA dot past 100 yards?
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My Aimpoint with a 4moa dot works fine at 200 and I'm sure 300 wouldnt be an issue.

I guess the irons on an AK aren't so great past 100 yards anyway.
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The stock AK sights arent bad, and 300 yards with them is a very realistic expectation. At 200 yards you can expect this. (and these are somewhat canted to boot)

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I recently put a set of Meprolight three dot night sights on a couple of my AK's. These are bigger than the stock sights and do reduce the effective range to 200 yards and in. Like the oversize sights on the SOCOM's, they work great for close up fast shooting, but tend to be a chore for longer range precision stuff.

Personally, I like the Aimpoint/Ultimak combo the best so far. Its a very solid mount, with a combat tested sight that is rugged and will hold up to abuse. You still get the cowitness, and everything is up front and out of the way. You can also still use a windage adjustable rear sight, or any sight combination you want with it too. I have the older M2's and the batteries are 24/7 on with one change a year. You can also use the Aimpoints with the front cover closed, which allows you to set the dot brightness so you can go from dark to light and back without fiddling with the brightness. Also eliminates the need for those annoying killflash's.

Not knocking LaRues set up there, it looks a lot better than most of the others, and the mounts I've had from them are first rate, so I'm sure the quality is there. I'd have to wait and see how things hold up and if the sight itself is durable and will take abuse. It looks somewhat fragile. I dont like the fact that your limited to that rear sight(unless they offer an adjustable too), and I also prefer the dots to be as far forward as you can get them, and they have it going the wrong direction.
 
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