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Lee crimp dies vs Factory crimp dies

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by bebop4212000, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. bebop4212000

    bebop4212000 New Member

    Jan 2, 2006
    I just bought a NIB Lee 4 hole turret press, 750 Speer 9mm bullets, 2 Lee crimp dies and a 3 die .38/.357 set for $80.00. I think I did good.

    I have been gathering bits and pieces of equipment for months to start reloading.

    I am not familiar with a taper crimp die vs a factory crimp die. What is the difference?:confused:

    I bought a Bonanza 38/.357 3 die set and he through in a Lee taper crimp die #90781. Will they work together?

    I also got a Lee 9mm taper crimp die #90780. Will this work with a Lee 9mm 3 die set or do I need to get the factory crimp die?
  2. Pumpkinheaver

    Pumpkinheaver Participating Member

    Jun 20, 2003
    I love the lee carbide crimp die when using jacketed bullets. I won't use it when loading case as it resizes the brass and therefor the bullet. I like my cast bullets .001-.002 inch over size and the lee carbide die at least the ones I have negates this.
  3. SASS#23149

    SASS#23149 Participating Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    re: the Bonanza set..
    I would use the seat/crimp die to just seat the bullet,and use the Lee die as step number 4. Makes adjusting seat and crimp a whole lot easier,and doesn't shave jacket material like you would by using jus 1 die for the 2 operations.
    Same answer for the 'extra' 9mm crimp die.
    the FCD dies that I have seen have a carbide sizer ring that is supposed to 'iron out' any 'problems' with the loaded round.May work,may not. I do know they require extra effort,and bounce my powder measure top off.:(
    I think you can live without one but some folks love 'em.
  4. armoredman

    armoredman Elder

    Nov 19, 2003
    proud to be in AZ
    I use the FCD in all rounds. Even cast, where it really doesn't seem to cause any issues, for me, ( I am gonna try some without, thanks for the idea, Pumpkinheaver), but the FCD leaves a great roll crimp on 38, and a perfect taper crimp on my 9mm. The rifle ones work completely differantly, so don't buy one for .223 thinking it will do any resizing, 100% differant.
  5. Uncle Chan

    Uncle Chan Member

    Nov 3, 2007
    +1 what SASS #23419 said (incidentally, I'm #38654 :) ).

    I use my Dillon for reloading my 45LC, but my Turret for all of my other pistol and rifle. I use Station 1 - Sizing/Depriming, 2- Charging and belling, 3 - Seating only, 4 - factory crimp.

    For my 45LC, I use a roll crimp. For my rifle calibers (30-06, 223, 45-70), and these pistol calibers: 45 ACP, 9mm, etc. I use a taper crimp. Taper for FMJ for me.

    Hope this helps.

    Last edited: Apr 20, 2008
  6. RustyFN

    RustyFN Senior Member

    Jul 5, 2006
    West Virginia
    The FCD is a taper crimp die with a post sizing ring to iron out a case that is still out of spec. I use the FCD with all the calibers I load. If you have your dies set right you won't feel the round go in or out of the FCD but will still get a crimp. The key is to set up your dies right and not count on the FCD to fix problems. I have loaded thousands of rounds on my classic turret and only felt the post sizing ring come into play twice.

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