Long Island Woman sorry for shooting intruder

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Woman sorry for shooting intruder
BY ANDREW STRICKLER
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May 23, 2007, 10:52 PM EDT
Merrily Ottomanelli stood Wednesday by her kitchen door and pointed to a fist-sized dent from a shotgun blast that left her Coram home splattered with the blood of an armed teenager who police said broke into her home.

"I'm just sorry the gun went off," she said, still visibly shaken 24 hours later. "I thought I'd killed him."

The home invasion began late Tuesday morning as Ottomanelli, 30, a dress store manager and college senior, and her boyfriend, Clifton Gilchrist, 24, were getting ready to go out for breakfast. Hearing the kitchen door open, she looked up to see a young stranger walk into her basement apartment, a pistol raised in one hand.

She screamed and lunged for the door. But, she said, the invader, who police identified as Jonathon Dilone, 18, of Port Jefferson Station, grabbed her by the throat, pushed her against a refrigerator, cocked the gun, and pressed the barrel to her head.

He said, calmly, "I'm here for your money. Where's your wallet?" Ottomanelli recalled. She pleaded, "Please don't do this."

Gilchrist, who was in a back bedroom, said he heard Ottomanelli's cries and grabbed a loaded 12-gauge shotgun he bought last year for protection.

Gilchrist said he charged into the intruder, ramming him with the shotgun, which dropped to the floor. As the pair fought, Ottomanelli said she grabbed the gun and raised it toward the invader, who still held a 9-mm pistol. "We were so close that he reached out and grabbed it, like a tug-of-war," she said.

Ottomanelli, who had never fired a gun before, said she didn't mean to pull the trigger. "There was the slightest touch and it went off," she said.

Gilchrist was holding the assailant from behind when the blast ripped through the invader's right shoulder, sending blood and birdshot scattering around the kitchen. "I felt the force of it, boom," Gilchrist said.

A moment later the assailant ran from the apartment, leaving a trail of blood and bone shards on the concrete walkway.

"I'm suffering over this," Ottomanelli said Wednesday. "It didn't have to go this way. But I'm glad I'm not shot and that my boyfriend's not shot."

Police said Dilone was driven after the shooting by Michael Anuskiewicz, 21, to Anuskiewicz's home in Port Jefferson Station, where an unidentified person called an ambulance. Dilone was taken to Stony Brook University Medical Center, where he was arrested. Dilone, who was listed in stable condition Wednesday, is in police custody at the hospital.

Anuskiewicz was arrested Tuesday night at his home. Both men are charged with burglary, possession of stolen property and criminal use of a firearm, all felonies. Anuskiewicz pleaded not guilty at his arraignment in First District Court in Central Islip Wednesday and was held on $100,000 cash bail or $300,000 bond. Dilone's arraignment had not yet been scheduled.

Anuskiewicz told police after his arrest that the pair targeted the house because they believed drug dealers lived there, Det. Sgt. Frank Stewart said, but a search of the house turned up no drugs or paraphernalia.

Matthew Swift, the owner of the house who lives upstairs, said he believed the house was picked at random. "There's nothing wrong with these two," he said of his tenants.
 
Anuskiewicz told police after his arrest that the pair targeted the house because they believed drug dealers lived there, Det. Sgt. Frank Stewart said, but a search of the house turned up no drugs or paraphernalia.
Is a search SOP after a shooting? Or will they search a house on the word of an.... nevermind I already know the answer even though I seem to still not believe it. There's been enough no-knocks on the wrong place I already know the second part even though I still don't want to believe it.

I would feel bad too, I don't want to shoot someone. But he left her with no good choices.
 
Ms.Ottomanelli's reaction is far from uncommon:read Ayoob,Byrd or Grossman.
Anyone who considers purchasing a weapon for self defense should spend much time searching their souls on this issue:can I do it? Will I do it? Can I live with myself afterwards?I see this as a sadly neglected part of our firearms training.
I think Ms.Ottomanelli's & Erebus' last sentances say it all.
 
My feeling is, when the shotgun went off she was afraid she had shot her BF and was lucky that she didn't. I'm glad the whole thing worked out in their favor
 
"It didn't have to go this way."

She's right. Next time, use some buckshot.:D

Anyone who feels badly for shooting someone who HELD A GUN TO HER HEAD is undeserving of the favor Natural Selection has granted her.
 
there was a granny a few years ago

who put down a shotgun because she just had a new kitchen installed, so she shot the skell with a .357mag instead!:D
 
Anyone who considers purchasing a weapon for self defense should spend much time searching their souls on this issue:can I do it? Will I do it? Can I live with myself afterwards?

Good advice.

I've no idea why Ms. O would feel terrible about shooting the perp. Pretty much the same as shooting a rabid varmint, as far as I'm concerned.
 
Lefty Dilone will probably be changing his line of work now. It's a shame that an eighteen year-old young adult was brought up so poorly that he could fathom terrorizing people for his own gain.
 
Pretty much the same as shooting a rabid varmint, as far as I'm concerned.
I can't view any human as I would an animal. No matter what they did to bring it on I would still feel bad about having to shoot someone.
 
Being human is more than having the correct DNA for the species.

I've had the unfortunate pleasure of meeting some "sub-humans" in a previous line of work; child molesters, child beaters, murderers. All were about as compassionate for others as an amoeba, and would have done really bad things to me (or you) if given the opportunity. No remorse whatsoever for what they'd done to their victims; only sorrow for getting caught. They were really nothing more than highly evolved predators.

If I ever had to shoot somebody like that, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
 
I can't view any human as I would an animal. No matter what they did to bring it on I would still feel bad about having to shoot someone.

Humanity is not necessary to be a human.
 
Someone should follow the Civil Suit sure to follow, by saying she is sorry she shot him and having no gun experience she has possibly made clear (at least legally) that there was no need to introduce the shotgun and that she makes it clear she didn't believe herself that she was in clear, present and immediate danger of losing her life. All Lawyers say the same thing, "Shut your mouth and call me first", this one will be more difficult to defend.
 
Nobody should open their yap to anyone but their lawyer for AT LEAST 48 hours after an event like this.

Any statements made before that 48 hours is up should be ignored. Most people have far too much shock to deal with to really be completely rational.
 
I say way to go! She did the right thing.

In regards to her feelings, you can't fault her for that, she just shot someone.

As far as the search, it is pure speculation on my part, but I'd bet that the residents freely gave permission for the search to rule out just that type of claim (they are drug dealers) by the crooks. In the same situation, I think that I would do the same. In fact, I might even invite the cops to have a look around just so they can be sure that there isn't any illegal activity going on.

Yeah, it might not be the best thing to do, but it sure would sound great in front of the jury after the crook calls you a drug dealer.

Your lawyer says: "Mr. & Mrs. so-and-so weren't doing anything wrong, they even asked the police to have a look around - they had nothing to hide."

As opposed to:

Prosecutor says: "Who knows what they were doing in there? They refused a search and the victim says that they were drug dealers - they have no proof otherwise."
 
I've no idea why Ms. O would feel terrible about shooting the perp. Pretty much the same as shooting a rabid varmint, as far as I'm concerned.

I wounder if anything she said was influenced by the fact that she used a gun in self-defense in 'the people's socialist state of New York.' :uhoh:

In places like NY gun-control is used to turn honest law abiding citizens that use a firearm to defend themselves against an attacker into the criminals and the attackers that get shot into poor tragic victims of the society that failed them. :barf:
 
He didn't die... I could understand feeling all weird if she had shot and killed him.

Erebus: I think because it is a crime scene, the police have to "search" / "secure" it. So they don't need a warrant and it is SOP.
 
I've no idea why Ms. O would feel terrible about shooting the perp.

I could, if the circumstances were different, like if she wasn't SURE he was a threat.

But he held a 9mm pistol TO her HEAD, and he COCKED it so it would only take a nudge to blast her brains all over, so he could take a few dollars from her. He KEPT FIGHTING with the couple. He could have run, but he stayed and probably would have killed them. Reality check, lady!

This should, however, be a lesson to those who think birdshot is good for home defense. He took a point-blank shotgun blast, and he ran away from the scene. This would not have ended well if he'd been even more tenacious, and drugs can do that to a perp. He was physically able to continue his attack. You don't buy a 12 Gauge for HD so the guy can kill you after he's been shot at close range!
 
Consider this aspect

I have only been a member here for a while, but have been lurking and reading for some time. I have seen threads on

similar items, all of which set me to thiinking on this.

A lot (I would venture most) on this forum have a CCW or may not have to if their stae is open carry. Why do we

exercie the right? Not just because we can, but instead it gives options. It has been a thought and philosophy that

having a CCW raises you from the status of civilian to citizen. Along with that go certain obligations and

responsibilities. I know this is not a CCW matter, but rather a home defense situation. However, there are

similarities. Should the home be defended? Absolutely. Are there risks? Definitely. Consequences? Yep. definitely.

We all like to think that we know how we woud react in such a situation, and for some on here, that is true.

However, for a large number, and if you ar honest with yourself,it is only a thought (wish) that we would react a

certain way to similar circs.

The truth is, we won't know until it occurrs and we have to make a lightning fast decision to exercise one of our

options. I like to think that if that option is exercised, I would be able to deal with it. Hopefully I will never

know. A number of years ago, I was involved in an industrial accident that left a very good friend of mine injured.

Immediately after the incident, I was rather rattled. I had no clue that that would be the result. It makes one

consider what your reaction would be in a more lethal situation. Good, bad, they are still a fellow human.
 
Shooting another human being is never pleasant unless you are a psychopath. This is a fact of life even if you are well trained, have developed the proper self-defense mind-set, are in fear for your life, and engage in a good shoot.

It would be even harder on someone who is untrained and without the proper mental frame of reference who also believes that they shot the perp accidently.
 
ilchrist was holding the assailant from behind when the blast ripped through the invader's right shoulder, sending blood and birdshot scattering around the kitchen. "I felt the force of it, boom," Gilchrist said.

How did he not get hit himself?
 
Anyone who feels badly for shooting someone who HELD A GUN TO HER HEAD is undeserving of the favor Natural Selection has granted her.

I disagree. It's easy to talk about wasting a punk when you haven't. But seeing as most Cops and Soldiers I've listened to never really like to talk about up close and personal kills, I think there is a clue. And when they do, it's with a sense of weight on their shoulders. These guys (sorry, never talked with any female ones) had the most clear cut righteous duties to kill a person that can be had and they still feel... something. I hope I never find out what it is, because it seems like it ain't nice.

I can easily see feeling sorry for having shot someone; even a low life. I'd probably be bouncing back and forth between many emotions.

But yes... she should have kept her trap shut. Sadly, that's the one thing you CAN'T have any latitude on. Adrenaline pumping. Feelings jarred. Emotions on high... And somehow you have to remember to ****!

I hope I never have to know.
 
I believe there is a difference between the emotional ramifications of justified homicide and feeling bad about harming someone who just held a loaded gun to your head for money.

Who knows if the news story even got it right, but I get the feeling that she didn't think her actions were justified. If so, that tells you something about the current mindset of the world.
 
Gilchrist, who was in a back bedroom, said he heard Ottomanelli's cries and grabbed a loaded 12-gauge shotgun he bought last year for protection.

Gilchrist said he charged into the intruder, ramming him with the shotgun, which dropped to the floor.
I blame the boyfriend who should have just shot the bad guy instead of "ramming him with the shotgun" :rolleyes:

People like him really shouldn't have guns - they should just have a big stick or a baseball bat instead, if they don't intend to use them in the proper manner.
 
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