Looking Into Joining Some Branch of the Military

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If I'm not mistaken, in any of the branches Officer's Candidate School, your MOS is assigned to you. You could have a degree in underwater basket weaving and instead of being an underwater basket weaver, they could assign you to Military Police or Com. But I could be wrong. I know that's the case with the Marine Corps.

This usually doesn't hold true for the AF or doesn't with the technical fields. If you have a degree in Information Technology that's most likely the field you will go into.

I spent 21 years in the AF but I won't try to sway anyone as to their choice of service. That's a personal decision and they are all great organizations, just choose your bed.

They all represent the same great country and flag! SO SERVE WITH HONOR!
 
My two cents 8 years active Army 6 years Colorado National Guard.

What ever branch you pick ( Coast Guard would really be good option) get into an actual CAREER FIELD don't become some kinda ground ponder get a real job that you can translate into a civilian career.
 
Four years Army Reserve as RATT Rig Operator/Combat Signaller.
Got my degree in Computer Information Systems.
Commissioned as a Military Police Officer (Having taken exactly ZERO Law Enforcemnet and/or Criminal Justice courses) after requesting Cavalry, Armor, Infantry, Field Artillery, Engineer, Signal Corps (had to have one non-Combat Arm in your top five), Air Defense, etc.

Did 4 years Active in Germany then 6 in the Reserves. (Took me a long time to figure out that I didn't want to be a cop.....)

First of all figure out what you want to do;

Do you want "The Adventure" then your looking at the Marines, Army Combat Arms like Infantry (with the possiblity of Airborne, Air Assualt, Ranger, Special Forces), Armor, or becoming a Navy aviator or Air Force pilot.

Or do you want the job training. Then you want to look at Army Combat Support and Combat Service Support branches Like Intelligence, Logistics, Signal Corps (which runs the Computer Information stuff). The Navy, Air Force and CG all have there own specialitists.

Figure out what you want to do and then go talk to all the recruiters. Also PM/E-mail people here. Tons of military experience on THR.
 
Don't think for a second that you won't get sent to the Arabian Gulf in the Coast Guard. One of the most bitter Coasties I ever met was assigned against his will to be the navigator on the USS Cushing when I was stationed in Japan. He went to the Gulf just like the rest of us during OIF. The Coast Guard sends a lot of law enforcement detachments (LEO dets) over there, too, for use in boarding parties. Coasties get around more than you think and it's not always "volunteer duty", either.
 
Glad to hear you are considering the service. I don't think the service is for everyone but for those who are will to make a commitment it truly offers some great options. I served four years in the ARMY and although I was more than ready to get out after my initial enlistment I would not have traded the experiences I had while I was there. I worked with AF while in Kuwait and I have to say I was impressed with their technical training. The AF taught in a manner that put rank aside so the skill being shared could be truly absorbed. Many GI's I knew were considering a change of branch just because of that. However, I do have to say I was concerned with their level of readiness once the war kicked off. I feel the AF could really prepare you for a broad spectrum of jobs in the civilian side, if the military turned out not to be your career choice.

Definitely check all your options before you sign the dotted line.
 
Coast Guard I did 26 years in the Coast Guard. I loved it. Went to both polar regions. Duty stations: New Oreans, South Padre Island, San Diego, San Franisco, Kodak Island, Alaska, Honolulu and London UK. I worked with great people. I went in as a young enlisted E-1 and lefted as a CWO. If I could I would still be in service. The training is very good. PM me if you have any ???
 
Getting close to retireing from the AF. Promotions dont come as fast as in some of the other branches but it aint as bad as it was a decade ago. Everyone deploys now, it dont matter what career field your in. Check out the services websites (ie www.af.mil), there's a lot of recruitment propaganda on them, but A LOT of helpful info. I had an Amn who worked for me that did 4 years, went to school with free tuition, got out to finish his degree with the GI bill and is trying to get commissioned in the Coast Guard. Man there are a million opportunites, deployment possibilities etc... in just 4 years of service. (Aim High; oops that our old apparently outdated motto:)
 
ARMY
35P AD
35T U3

I can tell you about either, ive done em both. Look them up, you can make bank when you get out.

Ive kicked in some doors (probably not as many as the 19D, X-RAP), and its a lot more fun than sitting in chairs for a living. If you picture it, in 30 years from now, your explaining what you did in the war to your grandkids, do you want to tell them you made coffee, sat on a LA Z BOY and was the butt of the jokes in the dilbert comics, or do you want to tell them about kicking in doors and roughing up hajji the bomb maker?
 
My sons the high speed door kickeriner he is 10th mtn 1-89 Cav and so far likes it. They are months away from the next cycle. I agree with what you said though, a young man has to think about what he will have to tell his grand kids when they ask him about the GWOT and what he did.
 
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Hey JCook5003:

I'm not comfortable telling anyone else what to do. As a Marine Corps vet, I think the military was probably the most significant education I ever got and I've always regarded college as bull.

Whatever you decide, make the most of it, learn constantly, and don't ever get big-headed about rank.
 
Would suggest Air Force or Navy. Several interesting career paths in both for IT people. Talk to recruiters and find one who will give you active duty contacts for your desired fields(they will/should be able to do this for you) Navy has Information Warfare officer career path that can be fairly rewarding if it interests you.
 
Well, here is my small perspective about the Navy.

First: I'm an enlisted Nuclear Mechanic on the USS Nevada (missile submarine).

If you joined to become a nuclear officer, a commissioned submarine officer, they would pay you up to at least $20,000 sign on bonus. Now, don't get me wrong, there is good money in the submarine world but the officers work their ass off in the sub world.

We are very limited on space and so you would be in charge of many things as a new guy and still have to qualify (for officers, that takes two years). Think of qualifying as 2 extra years of full time school with a 40 hour work week... then expect only to sleep 3-4 hours a day, except drill days (3 days), field day (1 day), training days (2 days). So you will get one day you might get a full 6 hours, hopefully :)

That is the basic rundown at sea for submarine officers. Now, the kicker is: if you don't recommission yourself and say that you will come back to the sub force, you will be sent to Iraq, Afghanistan, or Cuba, or wherever the Military needs you. So either stay Navy or go to the sand. Pretty ****ty deal if you ask me.

Ok, another small aspect of the military: As a Junior officer O-3 and below, you cannot make decisions for yourself. The Commanding Officers (captain of a submarine) are getting more and more micromanaging of crews as time passes. The focus is being shifted from common sense to blindly following orders and not using your mind. Be wary of the military, it seems that is the case always. "Do what your told, do what the PROCEDURE says, don't mess it up."

The only reason you should join the military is:

1.) You want to serve your country. That is a pride thing and no one should be able to argue that from you.

2.) You want a degree for... "free". Depending on your path it may cost something. Remember though: there is no such thing as a free lunch.

There are many other reasons but never join the military for the JOB. The job is horrible, underpaid, and highly stressful. Remember that you are getting paid salary: that means 24 hours a day pay. That means as long as you are awake you can be worked and trust me, I've stayed up manning battle stations for training for 49 hours straight operating a nuclear reactor. They will use you because you are free contracted labor.

Would I do it again: yes, I need the college money, and it is going to jump start me as far as experience, but would I stay for 20 years: no.

As of this writing: I have 496 days left in the Navy! Cannot wait to get a degree in Mechanical Engineering.
 
I was an Air Force Officer, medical, pharmacy to be specific. I have been out quite a while now, but promotions sucked for officers unless you were a pilot, physician or dentist. The Army and Navy seem to treat officers better and I cannot comment about the Coast Guard.
 
JCook5003:

I don't have a suggestion as to which service, but I do have some observations.

Background:
I was strongly encouraged to enter the Navy. (Can you spell "draft" into the Army/Marines? In 1966??!! Thankfully, there was ONE opening for the Navy in the whole Philly to Richmond area, which I grabbed.) I had fooled around for the first three years of college and the college suggested that I take a break from the academic arena. The draft notice was sitting on the dining room table when I got home.

Navy:
I tested into the electronics area and, after extensive schooling, became and Electronics Technician. Didn't know it at the time, but I lucked into a great rating because on my destroyer, ETs didn't stand watches. (We were about the only people that didn't stand watches. That included officers.)

At the time, I hated the Navy. I knew that I had screwed up and flunked out of college, and I was miserable the entire 4 years. It took me about 25 years to realize that, at that time in my life, the Navy was EXACTLY what I needed. I had four years to grow up, I learned many, MANY life-lessons, traveled a lot, had GREAT training, and met some of the best people in the world. (Full disclosure - I also met some of the worst people in the world.)

Your Service:
If you are going to go into the service, make sure you work the system for all its worth. If you are going in with the thought of making it a career, think about your future and plan your training with your best interests at heart. The military will use you in whatever capacity THEY deem best, so to a certain extent, you have to take care of yourself.

Some of the military training can be the best in the world. When I got out of the Navy and returned to college, my college transferred almost 2 years of electronic course work.

Try to work in an area that can be easily transferred into civilian life. While you might be currently thinking about a military career, you might change your mind. If you can easily transfer into civilian life, it gives you more options.

I don't know about officer recruiters, but everyone I met in the Navy had the same opinion of their recruiters - believe NOTHING the recruiter tell you. Remember that the recruiters job is dependent on how many people they get to sign up. They will do anything, say anything, to get you to sign. Get everything in writing. Everything.

Navy strengths: Good training. Fairly good food. Fairly good physical accommodations. Travel - lots of travel. (I spent months and months in the Caribbean, went to Turkey, Greece, Italy, France, Spain, England, Denmark, Germany.)
Navy weaknesses: Time at sea. (Your world can be reduced to the distance between the bow and the fantail. It gets old.)

I know the military was good for me. It gave me time to get myself together so that when I got out, I went back to get my bachelors and my masters degree. I got the (old) GI bill, which helped pay for school and assisted in the purchase of my homes.

Good luck in whatever you decide.
 
DejaVu...

When I screwed up college after two years, I won the last draft lottery (actually came in second but they took thru 140+-) not wanting to actually go to VietNam (1974) I talked to the Navy recruiter, took the basic test battery and when I spelled my name right, was offered the Nuclear Field. I declined as I figured (correctly) that most nucs are submarines and I wanted to "See the World". My serendipity came in the next offer, which I accepted. Advanced Electronics he said. I, having no idea what that was (1974:HewlittPackard had just invented the digital calculator=07734{hello})said sure. I got into digital computers before S. Jobs. okay so he made more of it than I... I got to apply digital controls to fire control applications and made many guns (5" & 3") go bang and missles go whoosh. I was part of the original Harpoon Missile Operational Test and Eval Team and then Harpoon and SM-2. I stayed in for eight years when I re-enlisted at 4 I got 20K (max) reup bonus and choice of orders. Took a training billet in Va. (from Hawaii) and got more training in Mk92 FCS and AEGIS. Taught pre-com Combat System Team Training for Perry class frigates and Ayatollah class destroyers.
While in they paid for my finishing my BS and when I got out my MS. I was recruited by Raytheon, Grumman and certain agencies but I went out on my own and have never regretted a choice I made. Yea there were some very lonely Christmases spent in the center of the Pacific and not having a "honey" to come home to was "character building" to say the least. The maturing and experiences were worth the bs. The learning was worth all of it.
Whatever your choice, I wish you "Fair winds and Following Seas"
 
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The Pick is Personal

You just need to find a service that relates to your degree. You will get more out of it that way. OCS is your next stop after graduation. They will pay for your college for a guaranteed commitment by yrs.
I have pounded surf and ate mud with the best of them. I was an action junky after a couple years with the 2nd Mar Div, but I joined the Navy because that is where my field of education took me.
I would avoid the chair force, they are beggining to see problems with their aging fleet. The only plane of theirs I trust is the A-10.
Coast Guard offers a wide variety as does the Navy, but their role is less combat oriented. They excell at defense and rescue, plus I think they get better deals on equipment. I really admire their Bell Helos, better than a UH-53.
The missions of each force is different, plus you may have to decide on being a line officer or a specialty officer.
 
Ah, SWOs...run for the hills! They don't call a SWO a SHOE for nothing! Stupidest Human On Earth... Just kidding...from a former Seahawk pilot. But, seriously, how hard is it to figure out the relative wind when recovering a helo? Apparently, on my ships, MO boarding was a very lost art. Uh guys, since you apparently can't do a simple MO board wind triangle to save your lives, how about simply stepping out on the bridge wing to LOOK at the flag or actually use the wind vane? It always cracked me up when they gave me something like 40 degrees to starboard when I could see the flag indicating winds were 20 to port. Right in the perfect envelope for recovery and they didn't even know it themselves! They were largely ignored. :neener:
 
Former Marine, but I'd suggest the Air Force. Better benefits, better educational opportunities, and treat their people better. At Aviano AFB in the mid-'90s, the Marine contingent lived in tents, while the Air Force got hotels. For a year. They also received $700+ extra per month for eating out on the town and such, and we got, no kidding, $3.50 a month.

Top that off with the hottest women in the service and you should be able to make your choice pretty easily.
 
I did 6 years Navy - Sonar Technician, back in the 1970s - I joined the USN after getting a draft notice, I enjoyed my time serving in the
USN. I would ascertain a guaranteed path to the Coast GUard if I were you
I do know the COast Guard has many of thier Cutters that are aging &
require as much maintenance as a new cutter would cost but the budget prioirities are such as they are - I ended up getting out of the USN and went back to college - degree in Mgnt Info. Systems and had a 25 year career
in IT. BTW - us Blue Water Navy guys always kidded the COasties as to their being issued stilts so they could wade to shore if need be.... seriously,
I recall Ensign Kaiser who was older for an ensign because he had switched
from the COast Guard. At the first full dress uniform function in a lull after what ever the ceremony was I noticed a different ribbon on his rack of ribbons I asked him what that one was? He said he earned it when he was in the CG - he and a couple of other CG enlisted rescued a couple in a saiilboat caught in big riptide near the beach.

CG does good work, and defend our shores, as well as during the
Vietnam war, we had CUtters off that coast as well.
 
My vote is for Coast Guard (I are one!) but with reservations. What do you want to DO while you are in? Potential benefits to service in the CG include being the Commanding Officer of your own patrol boat as an O2 or O3, the chance to go overseas on one of our larger cutters, law enforcement, getting into flight school and flying with some of the best helo air crews in the world and maybe getting into one of the TACLETS, LEDETS, MSST, MSRT and getting some good LE and force protection training. The bad parts? Some of those billets are very hard to come by and you may just find yourself in the Response Department of a sector, doing staff work and watching the station guys do operational things, or being in the Prevention Department and doing lots of staff work, especially if there is some type of spill. Not the most exciting stuff but you can make it a lucrative career out of the Guard.

I am enlisted, Officer in Charge (enlisted guys don't get to be the CO, they call us OIC) of my own station, getting advanced to Senior Chief this Saturday and you could not pay me to take a commission in the CG but that is because I really love what I do. If you want to PM me I may be able to answer some of your questions or put you into contact with a serving officer so you can get first hand advice.
 
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